"People who are seeking to come to the UK to work or to join a spouse already living here should be required to learn English, an expert body says."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6380867.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6380867.stm
I agree.usmarine2007 wrote:
"People who are seeking to come to the UK to work or to join a spouse already living here should be required to learn English, an expert body says."
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"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
Should be in the U.S. too. in my opinion people should have to exhibit some level of proficiency of English to immigrate, get a green card, citizenship, etcetera.
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I was watching a video on Singapore the other day, they can fine someone $150 for not flushing the toilet in a public restroom. THAT is a law we need in America. $500 fine for pissing on the toilet seat.
I wouldn't fine them. I would make them spend an evening cleaning the public restrooms.Elamdri wrote:
I was watching a video on Singapore the other day, they can fine someone $150 for not flushing the toilet in a public restroom. THAT is a law we need in America. $500 fine for pissing on the toilet seat.
It would be nice if the US had an "official" language as well. Even in Tampa we have our areas that are primarily Spanish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_ … ted_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_ … ted_States
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America is an immigrant nation. Seriously, making everybody that immigrates here take a proficiency test? RIDICULOUS
This is about the UK.anuban wrote:
America is an immigrant nation. Seriously, making everybody that immigrates here take a proficiency test? RIDICULOUS
the only problem with that is that American doesn't have a national language. Thats why it's not a requirement to speek it.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Should be in the U.S. too. in my opinion people should have to exhibit some level of proficiency of English to immigrate, get a green card, citizenship, etcetera.
Yes, being able to communicate in English is quite helpful and polite.
Okay, thanks. In that case, I say yes, they should adopt the law. And even though this thread is apparently only about the UK, I think it is relevant for any country. If you want to live in a country, it's not unreasonable that you be required to speak their language. SO yes, immigrants into the US should speak English as well, and immigrants into Germany should speak German.usmarine2007 wrote:
The debate is whether the UK should adopt this into law, since it is also a huge debate in America also.
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
This should be a law in every country. If you want to move there, learn the official language first. If there's no official language, learn the most common one. Why is this a problem for people?
Because learning languages is very difficult, and English is supposed to be one of the hardest.
Or to spell it, apparently...viper313 wrote:
Thats why it's not a requirement to speek it.
The US government can decide how its documents and official proceedings will take place, and how much English must be known to be able to be naturalized, but I don't think it has the power to actually title English the official language, unless if they passed an amendment to the Constitution.
Earning a living is difficult too. It would be a lot easier to just wait for the government to bend to my desires and pay me for nothing.Bubbalo wrote:
Because learning languages is very difficult, and English is supposed to be one of the hardest.
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100% agree... I wouldn't move to Norway and expect everyone to speak English, even if most of them probably can. I'd learn Norwegian first.chittydog wrote:
This should be a law in every country. If you want to move there, learn the official language first. If there's no official language, learn the most common one. Why is this a problem for people?
He no doubt meant is there a point for the country that started the english language to ask everyone to speak it, i'd asume they do so already. If not you'd be silly to move to majority english speaking country without knowing a scrap of the language.
Same can be said for other countried I.E: United States/Australia. Countries based on imigration it wouldn't be hard to impliment but it would ruin the ideal those countries have based themselves apon (well maybe not the states, more Australia.)
Same can be said for other countried I.E: United States/Australia. Countries based on imigration it wouldn't be hard to impliment but it would ruin the ideal those countries have based themselves apon (well maybe not the states, more Australia.)
Well maybe you should get into welfare reform: Australian welfare requires those who recieve it to attempt to find jobs, and log their attempts, or they don't get money.chittydog wrote:
Earning a living is difficult too. It would be a lot easier to just wait for the government to bend to my desires and pay me for nothing.Bubbalo wrote:
Because learning languages is very difficult, and English is supposed to be one of the hardest.
That's great! Welfare isn't intended to be a life long solution, but rather to help people going through a difficult time get back on their feet.Bubbalo wrote:
Well maybe you should get into welfare reform: Australian welfare requires those who recieve it to attempt to find jobs, and log their attempts, or they don't get money.chittydog wrote:
Earning a living is difficult too. It would be a lot easier to just wait for the government to bend to my desires and pay me for nothing.Bubbalo wrote:
Because learning languages is very difficult, and English is supposed to be one of the hardest.
Exactly. Obviously, there are different requirements for different people: single mothers aren't expected to work full time, depending on the level of disability some disabled people don't have to accept certain jobs or don't have to work at all. But if you refuse a job that you're able to do, you have to accept it.
you English, always running after the facts...
Take an example from The Netherlands, any outside EU person willing to life in The Netherlands must buy a set containing a video and a book and study that, then go embassy in own country and take a test at $4oo, test fail try again at $400, pass and its on to the normal procedure of paying another $1000 and a shit load of paperwork.
When about 6 months later finally in the Netherlands, there is a another 6 month wait before going to mandatory school 5 half days a week, where they will be thought Dutch language and more practical stuff.
The visa has to be renewed every year at $250 then after 5 years and passing 2 test that certify a person can speak and write dutch one can obtain a Dutch Passport.
Take an example from The Netherlands, any outside EU person willing to life in The Netherlands must buy a set containing a video and a book and study that, then go embassy in own country and take a test at $4oo, test fail try again at $400, pass and its on to the normal procedure of paying another $1000 and a shit load of paperwork.
When about 6 months later finally in the Netherlands, there is a another 6 month wait before going to mandatory school 5 half days a week, where they will be thought Dutch language and more practical stuff.
The visa has to be renewed every year at $250 then after 5 years and passing 2 test that certify a person can speak and write dutch one can obtain a Dutch Passport.
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have you taken a look at florida recently, if i EVER walk into a resteraunt to order food, i will refuse to sound it out to the fuckin mexies. Ill demand to speak with someone in english, or trash the place. Its rediculous.
Go around at night and spray paint there windows "Speak english or go home"
Err that pisses me off so much. They barge into this country and expect us to adapt to them! bullshit
Go around at night and spray paint there windows "Speak english or go home"
Err that pisses me off so much. They barge into this country and expect us to adapt to them! bullshit
15 more years! 15 more years!
Damn, you guys know how to stall like nobody else.delta4bravo*nl* wrote:
you English, always running after the facts...
Take an example from The Netherlands, any outside EU person willing to life in The Netherlands must buy a set containing a video and a book and study that, then go embassy in own country and take a test at $4oo, test fail try again at $400, pass and its on to the normal procedure of paying another $1000 and a shit load of paperwork.
When about 6 months later finally in the Netherlands, there is a another 6 month wait before going to mandatory school 5 half days a week, where they will be thought Dutch language and more practical stuff.
The visa has to be renewed every year at $250 then after 5 years and passing 2 test that certify a person can speak and write dutch one can obtain a Dutch Passport.
You've got some nice drugs too.
I think a system like that in America would probably just encourage more people to do things the illegal way.