gvp000
Bah Humbug!
+3|7021|UK
The history of military training.

Obviously we're all Battlefield veterinarians here and don't need any advice on tactics or training.  But I've delved a little deeper into the history of military tactics, to try and uncover why we do what we do.

The first evidence of organised armies becoming complex enough to warrant a formal training regime is found in ancient Egypt where ancient scraps of papyrus warn of the dangers snipers.  The snipers of the day used longer ranged weapons and attempted to incapacitate their enemies with fatal headshots.  Of course at this period of history a ranged weapon consisted of a slightly longer stick than your opponent. To combat these tactics the scriptures tell that commanders first toyed with the idea of 'even longer sticks' before settling on the strategy that is commonly seen throughout history.  Solders in the Egyptian armies were taught that when crossing open terrain they should run in short randomly directed bursts whilst jumping around like fools.

Fig1: Ancient Jumping tactics are successful as the sniper only manages a body hit.
https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/gvp000/ancientsniper.jpg

Looking at the training regime of the classical Greek soldiers uncovers some remarkable insights.  The Greeks were not trained in specific military skills, with the commanders of the era placing a strong emphasis on physical conditioning. The ancient Greeks worshiped many gods and even believed that the dead had the ears of the Gods and so could influence the lives and fates of the living.  Popular military culture of the time involved shouting expletives at the recently deceased to in an attempt to appease the gods. Popular cries to be heard on the battlefield included "Don't punished me, because you ran into the area I just thrown a javelin" and "Well if you're going to crouch behind my chariot what do you expect ?, how can you punish me for that ?"

Fig2: Of course modern day 'Horseless carriages' are far removed from their ancient counterparts
https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/gvp000/todayshorseless.jpg

The Romans were the first soldiers to utilise squads and formations with the most popular tactic being the one that is still most widely used to this day.  Roman commanders would organise their units into tight squads with a range of skill sets that would ensure that the squad could deal with almost any challenge that it could meet on the battlefield.  Once battle commenced, the squad members would then rush in completely different directions setting there own objectives, based upon personal gain or sometimes what looked most interesting. Often large groups of soldiers would be seen gathered around a carpenter waiting for another chariot to be produced.

By the 17th Century the importance of transportation had become a key factor on the battlefield with cavalry being widely utilised.  Recognition of the individual soldier became important at this time and so reward systems were widely used to recognise heroics on the battlefield.  This system was revised by Napoleon, to become more like it's modern day counterpart after disaster struck in a key battle of the Napoleonic wars.  One of Napoleons most trusted regiments was entirely destroyed by a much smaller cavalry force when they fool-hardily abandoned their muskets and bayonets in an attempt to win their 'Knife combat badges'

Fig3: A Napoleonic canon combat badge
https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/gvp000/cannoncombatbadge.jpg

Fig4: Early Basic AND Veteran chariot badges
https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/gvp000/Earlycombats.jpg


Well history tells many stories which explain our actions on the modern day battlefield, but re-search is time consuming so for now - that is all.

Last edited by gvp000 (2005-09-08 14:08:33)

kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|7052|Bryan/College Station, TX
ROFL!!!

That was awesome!

Thanks or the humor!!!

Cheers.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
CMDR_Dave
Redneck
+66|7050|Missoula, MT
*sniff sniff* Beautiful, just beautiful...

ooooh aaaah pictures

Last edited by CMDR_Dave (2005-09-08 17:47:06)

chuyskywalker
Admin
+2,439|7056|"Frisco"

Totally Awesome. Add some pics to this (chariots! etc) and I'll move it over to the Best Of forum.
gvp000
Bah Humbug!
+3|7021|UK

chuyskywalker wrote:

Totally Awesome. Add some pics to this (chariots! etc) and I'll move it over to the Best Of forum.
Jees,  I used to just play BF2 - now I'm getting homework !
sinir
damned
+2|7027|Boston


Thats funny!
TriggerHappy998
just nothing
+387|7056|-
I feel like I've heard this somewhere before...

And I bet you don't know how the middle finger came to be what it means today

Back during the Hundred Years' War, the English would capture French Archers and cut off their middle fingers so they could not pull back a bow. On the field of battle the French would put up their middle fingers to show that they still had it, and were still battle ready. And it pretty much meant, "Fuck you, I'm still useful"

I have no idea why I explained that.
chuyskywalker
Admin
+2,439|7056|"Frisco"

gvp000 wrote:

chuyskywalker wrote:

Totally Awesome. Add some pics to this (chariots! etc) and I'll move it over to the Best Of forum.
Jees,  I used to just play BF2 - now I'm getting homework !
Lolz. Get to work slave! er... i mean... if you want.
gvp000
Bah Humbug!
+3|7021|UK

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

I feel like I've heard this somewhere before...
Everyone's a sceptic, unless you've been prying into my private thoughts you aint
( I shall wrap my head in tin-foil in future........ there try reading my mind now- ha )
Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7046
You forgot to add something about Wellington's calvary charging around not shooting at anyone, just trying to trample them with the horses.  Or Roman centurians camping around a catapult in the rears of the campaign trying to get their 'Anti-Artarious' badges.
gvp000
Bah Humbug!
+3|7021|UK

Burning_Monkey wrote:

You forgot to add something about Wellington's calvary charging around not shooting at anyone, just trying to trample them with the horses.  Or Roman centurians camping around a catapult in the rears of the campaign trying to get their 'Anti-Artarious' badges.
lol - I could've gone on for ages, but the pub is begining to call to me....I'll update with some nice piccies tho.

Shoud've played on the Egyptian God An00bus, but that's prolly someones nick.

Last edited by gvp000 (2005-09-08 13:00:53)

Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7046

gvp000 wrote:

Burning_Monkey wrote:

You forgot to add something about Wellington's calvary charging around not shooting at anyone, just trying to trample them with the horses.  Or Roman centurians camping around a catapult in the rears of the campaign trying to get their 'Anti-Artarious' badges.
lol - I could've gone on for ages, but the pub is begining to call to me....I'll update with some nice piccies tho.
And don't forget the elite 'Noobis Maximus' trooper that tries to drive a chariot and just succeeds in crashing it over and over again.  But still claims that he can drive.
Krauser98
Extra Green Please!
+53|7038|USA! USA! USA!
Great, I can see it now.  You're going to have to pass a test in order to play a certain map...  Man, I knew school applied to real life somehow.
Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7046

Krauser98 wrote:

Great, I can see it now.  You're going to have to pass a test in order to play a certain map...  Man, I knew school applied to real life somehow.
I always figured it was the almost daily beatings in the shower room and the constant degrigation by more popular students that helped prepare me for life in the corporate world.
gvp000
Bah Humbug!
+3|7021|UK
There - Pictures added
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7050|Cologne, Germany

very nice and funny, dude
Rewler
First Aid!!!
+0|7029
lmao.... plz go on.. GO ON !!
gvp000
Bah Humbug!
+3|7021|UK
thx - I think perhaps something different next time tho, pleased I raised a smile.
-101-InvaderZim
Member
+42|7052|Waikato, Aotearoa
ROFL - u guys crack me up......

Very clever and furkin funny as.......

hahahahahhahaha

U too on that piece of 100yrs War History Trigger

:-)

Last edited by -101-InvaderZim (2005-09-20 15:54:31)

Nufuhsus
Member
+0|7051|Atlanta (Metro) USA
Yellow and blue makes green!
Rice_klowN
Member
+0|6985
Actually, Trigger's piece on the middle finger is completely true, believe it or not
Bkelso8
Member
+0|6981
And who could forget the ancient tactic of the Persians, "Booty Camping":

A lone, stealthy soldier is sent into the enemy villiage to find and hide near the huts of pregnant Greek women.  Then, at the moment of birth (as signalled by the first cry of a newbornt infant) the soldier dashes into the hut and stabs the baby to death. 

Then, like today, this tactic was seen as highly unsporting but generally effective.
TriggerHappy998
just nothing
+387|7056|-

Rice_klowN wrote:

Actually, Trigger's piece on the middle finger is completely true, believe it or not
I love history
beeng
Get C4, here!
+66|6995

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

Rice_klowN wrote:

Actually, Trigger's piece on the middle finger is completely true, believe it or not
I love history
nerds.

get to the cool history, like einstein and his crazy days at the patent office
TriggerHappy998
just nothing
+387|7056|-

beeng wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

Rice_klowN wrote:

Actually, Trigger's piece on the middle finger is completely true, believe it or not
I love history
nerds.

get to the cool history, like einstein and his crazy days at the patent office
Okay, since you like Einstein so much, Fill in the blank:



"I don't know how World War 3 will be fought, but I can tell you right now that World War 4 will be fought with                                     "

Last edited by TriggerHappy998 (2005-10-12 12:02:18)

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