Actually this is America 2007, but just a minor detail.golgoj4 wrote:
Newsflash, this is America in 2006,
Poll
Democratic Agenda
| True | 49% | 49% - 58 | ||||
| False | 50% | 50% - 59 | ||||
| Total: 117 | ||||||
/winSteaming_Poo wrote:
Actually this is America 2007, but just a minor detail.golgoj4 wrote:
Newsflash, this is America in 2006,
Just an opinion from an outsider, but most of what Mason4Assassin444 has said sounds like pro-republican propaganda and comes from very strong religious beliefs. I think that religious beliefs should in NO WAY influence politics.
If your daughter became pregnant due to being raped. Would you refuse to let her have an abortion?
If two homosexuals married. How does that affect you? If this is due to the religious area of marriage then that is your belief that they shouldn't get married. But it is not theirs.
And a nation wide healthcare could become extremely successful. They may just stop taxing you to pay for the F-22 Raptor programe or the Commanche, and instead use that money to treat you and your family without using the life-savings on a life-saving operation. In Britain the NHS isn't perfect, never has been, but which is better. Seeing a family member die because they cannot afford healthcare or have no insurance because they were made redundant. Or seeing them being cured.
I like the way most Europoean countries use their heads. Not their religious beliefs.
Tony Blair isn't the best example.
If your daughter became pregnant due to being raped. Would you refuse to let her have an abortion?
If two homosexuals married. How does that affect you? If this is due to the religious area of marriage then that is your belief that they shouldn't get married. But it is not theirs.
And a nation wide healthcare could become extremely successful. They may just stop taxing you to pay for the F-22 Raptor programe or the Commanche, and instead use that money to treat you and your family without using the life-savings on a life-saving operation. In Britain the NHS isn't perfect, never has been, but which is better. Seeing a family member die because they cannot afford healthcare or have no insurance because they were made redundant. Or seeing them being cured.
I like the way most Europoean countries use their heads. Not their religious beliefs.
Tony Blair isn't the best example.
First I will say that I bow before no man. Secondly , the one US History class that I do remember, goes something like-- there never has been a US King--- or something along those lines, but I might be wrong about that.topal63 wrote:
Hey dumb dumb - I will tell you what Marines do... they do there DUTY. They do not make POLICY. They do not PICK the FIGHT - they JUST FIGHT. Comprehend?golgoj4 wrote:
Baseless? I didn't realize that submitting to the king was the mark of bravery.(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
Your opinion and rant is weak, baseless and nothing but a personal attack on the Former Marine. Additionally, Bush is not a "fucking"idiot. He probably has more intellect than you. And to say that he has "wasted the lives of American serviceman" and on and on... You disclose how you really believe what we are doing. Do you have no understanding of what the US Armed Forces does? Did you ever take US History lessons? You, sir, are VERY out-of-touch. You might want to take a look at you're self. But I can already surmise, that you are to closed-minded at this point in your life to even think--- you might be the one in the wrong, and care to humbly admit it. One day you will
P.S. Since your such an Expert on so many topics, How does a "Real Marine" act? Are you one? Not likely Care to enlighten us, with your own words of wisdom, on this? Please, do!
do I know what the armed forces does? no why dont you explain since your asking dip shit questions
More history classes than you probly?
As far as being out of touch, well, i call it being able to use my brain. But then I haven't been brainwashed like so many here. Military wasnt so successful there...
As far as me being wrong, I dont think that will be proved anytime soon. *Points @ iraq* yeah, thats gonna magically fix itself. Stop co-signing for the king and look at whats really going on around you.
Just doing your DUTY is an ETHIC of incredible proportions. And as far as brain-washing goes, uh so-what even if it's TRUE. Isn't it necessary to turn an ordinary man into an extraordinary man? I think washing out the ordinary is probably necessary!
In closing: topal63: to Quote For Emphasis "I say God Damn, can I get an AMEN!"
Na, I have gone out of my way to reason with you guys. The OP doesn't speak for us all, I think more can be gained by an exchange of ideas than a exchange of insults.Spearhead wrote:
Never put it past a neo-conservative fuck to tell you what you believe, disrespect what you believe in, and tell you you're wrong and he's right.
You disrespect us and our beliefs, we'll do the same. And when we do, suddenly we're the assholes.
If you want to appear to be bipartisan, at least appear like it. But the right wing crowd here has changed only for the worse since the day I started coming here.......
LOL MajorSpittle is mad at me because I don't call liberals dumb asses anymore.
This thread is further evidence that liberals get mad when the Democratic party platform is described accurately.
Liberals are in their own sence a new breed of terrorismMason4Assassin444 wrote:
Democrats:
Kill babies.
Want to take away the 2nd amendment.
Want universal healthcare via taxing the hell out of you.
Are out of touch with world affairs.
Are flip floppers.
Do not care about terrorists attacking the U.S.
Let Bin Laden get away many times several years ago.
Should be tried for the Clinton Administration.
Are responsible for terrorist attacks.
Are trying to kill America's edge on the rest of the world.
Directly affect me and my childrens welfare.
Want the gays to be married destroying all moral grounds for marriage.
Are out for thier own agenda of personal gain and career advancement.
Have sabatoged the war on terror.
Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Democrats:
Kill babies.
Want to take away the 2nd amendment.
Want universal healthcare via taxing the hell out of you.
Are out of touch with world affairs.
Are flip floppers.
Do not care about terrorists attacking the U.S.
Let Bin Laden get away many times several years ago.
Should be tried for the Clinton Administration.
Are responsible for terrorist attacks.
Are trying to kill America's edge on the rest of the world.
Directly affect me and my childrens welfare.
Want the gays to be married destroying all moral grounds for marriage.
Are out for thier own agenda of personal gain and career advancement.
Have sabatoged the war on terror.
I never stated these were my views. The poll asks, is this true? Comprehension brother. Comprehension.
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Republican:
1. Can we blame the Democrats?
2. Can we blame gay people?
3. Can we blame terrorists?
4. Can we blame liberals?
5. if no to all above...jesus will save us!
No matter how much bush and his supporters OWN congress for all those years. They still want to blame someone else. That is not a sign of leadership that is calling card of a failure. Pretty basic stuff.
1. Can we blame the Democrats?
2. Can we blame gay people?
3. Can we blame terrorists?
4. Can we blame liberals?
5. if no to all above...jesus will save us!
No matter how much bush and his supporters OWN congress for all those years. They still want to blame someone else. That is not a sign of leadership that is calling card of a failure. Pretty basic stuff.
Damn those pesky Liberals/Democrats. Always destroying America.
usmarine2007 wrote:
Appears to be in order.
Actually true Conservatives are all most no longer in existence. As the term "Conservative" was first used in 1814 at the congress of Vienna to describe people in favor of absolute monarchies. Liberals wanted limited, constitutional monarchies (a la Britain's government for the time with a king being checked by Parliament) and radicals wanted full democracies.Spearhead wrote:
The true conservatives are voting for the Democrats, as you saw in the last election. True conservatives have been hijacked by the new wave of Republicans, Bush for example.
It doesn't really help the Democrats when the most people trying to defend liberalism are the crazy Bush haters. Calling Bush the worst President is especially ignorant.
How is that?UGADawgs wrote:
Calling Bush the worst President is especially ignorant.
I heard they were taking the stats away from BF2 also.
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Because you really have to be ignorant of history to think that Bush is the worst. We've had worse presidents with much more lasting effects.BN wrote:
How is that?UGADawgs wrote:
Calling Bush the worst President is especially ignorant.
who do you think is the worse?UGADawgs wrote:
Because you really have to be ignorant of history to think that Bush is the worst. We've had worse presidents with much more lasting effects.BN wrote:
How is that?UGADawgs wrote:
Calling Bush the worst President is especially ignorant.
In this day and age of mass media the microscope is on him more than ever.
And all the polls arent showing great things for him.
The majority of people who answered the opinion polls think he is the worst ever.
The majority of those people could not name 5 presidents before 1980 I bet.BN wrote:
The majority of people who answered the opinion polls think he is the worst ever.
Null vote.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
OP.
Much of that seems to be the platform of certain politicians, but I don't restrict myself by tying party to candidate (though most of my votes do swing right).
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Johnsonusmarine2007 wrote:
The majority of those people could not name 5 presidents before 1980 I bet.BN wrote:
The majority of people who answered the opinion polls think he is the worst ever.
Johnson
Adams
Adams
Roosevelt
Roosevelt
That's six!
Seriously, even someone with the rudimentary presidential listing skills granted by our lofty public education system (of which I was a product) could name Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy and Nixon. That's five, isn't it.doctastrangelove1964 wrote:
Johnsonusmarine2007 wrote:
The majority of those people could not name 5 presidents before 1980 I bet.BN wrote:
The majority of people who answered the opinion polls think he is the worst ever.
Johnson
Adams
Adams
Roosevelt
Roosevelt
That's six!
You get +1 for the worst joke ever.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Seriously, even someone with the rudimentary presidential listing skills granted by our lofty public education system (of which I was a product) could name Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy and Nixon. That's five, isn't it.doctastrangelove1964 wrote:
Johnsonusmarine2007 wrote:
The majority of those people could not name 5 presidents before 1980 I bet.
Johnson
Adams
Adams
Roosevelt
Roosevelt
That's six!
Can't we just all agree that all political parties, thier "agenda's, and thier office holding members are all full of shit and dishonest?
Thier agenda? To accumulate wealth and power by lieing, cheating, and stealing to the point just before getting caught with thier illegal actions. I'm no "They killed J.F.K." anti Gov. nut, but when I just smell bullshit, I know what it is. Thier agenda is to placate the masses with fake goals, show the masses thier statistics on how thier attaining that goal (Go war on drugs!) to keep thier mind off of thier true actions. Fucking the people who aren't rich.
Thier agenda? To accumulate wealth and power by lieing, cheating, and stealing to the point just before getting caught with thier illegal actions. I'm no "They killed J.F.K." anti Gov. nut, but when I just smell bullshit, I know what it is. Thier agenda is to placate the masses with fake goals, show the masses thier statistics on how thier attaining that goal (Go war on drugs!) to keep thier mind off of thier true actions. Fucking the people who aren't rich.
Probably Andrew Johnson for his part in the complete screw-up of Reconstruction. Second would have to be Buchanan for letting the whole Civil War happen on his watch.BN wrote:
who do you think is the worse?UGADawgs wrote:
Because you really have to be ignorant of history to think that Bush is the worst. We've had worse presidents with much more lasting effects.BN wrote:
How is that?
In this day and age of mass media the microscope is on him more than ever.
And all the polls arent showing great things for him.
The majority of people who answered the opinion polls think he is the worst ever.
For Gods sake. This isn't another I hate President Bush topic. I want to go on, but I will stop here. Now, back to the topic.