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2007-01-23 16:33:12
Eugefunk84
Member
+48|6737

paranoid101 wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Who are you?^^
Oh I'm sorry forgot it was your forum and we are supposed to ask your permission before posting.

I have alot of respect for the people who post in the Debate and Serious Talk forum without using personal attacks to get there point across and who post well thought out responses.

But you sir are an arrogant fool, who thinks he owns the forum and can attack anyone who has a slightly different opinion than you.

Your country has a bad image because of people like You, who are closed minded to anybody Else's opinion except the people who agreeing with you.

Now don't get me wrong this isn't an attack on your country at all, oh no I have alot of respect for the many American people that post on here and those in general.

Of cause I'm expecting to you response to be an attack or I don't care what you say, I don't know you and your not my friend so I don't care.

So to you question "Who are you?^^" well I'm the person who just bitch slapped you in this thread.
haha, i think he was referring to me with that question

nice bitch slap none the less however
2007-01-23 16:34:03
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6943

usmarine2007 wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Who are you?^^
Oh I'm sorry forgot it was your forum and we are supposed to ask your permission before posting.

I have alot of respect for the people who post in the Debate and Serious Talk forum without using personal attacks to get there point across and who post well thought out responses.

But you sir are an arrogant fool, who thinks he owns the forum and can attack anyone who has a slightly different opinion than you.

Your country has a bad image because of people like You, who are closed minded to anybody Else's opinion except the people who agreeing with you.

Now don't get me wrong this isn't an attack on your country at all, oh no I have alot of respect for the many American people that post on here and those in general.

Of cause I'm expecting to you response to be an attack or I don't care what you say, I don't know you and your not my friend so I don't care.

So to you question "Who are you?^^" well I'm the person who just bitch slapped you in this thread.
Feel better about yourself?
Yes fine thank you, very nice of you to ask.
2007-01-23 16:38:46
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6570|Columbus, Ohio

Eugefunk84 wrote:

haha, i think he was referring to me with that question

nice bitch slap none the less however
You were calling me out, how was I supposed to respond?  If I said something "mean," I would get banned.  So that was my response to your personal attack.
2007-01-23 16:39:26
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6969|UK

UGADawgs wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Chinese super power will be good. I think its going to be far more beneficial to the world than the US ever has been. They arent going to be a "superpower" in the sense you even understand, they will have economic power thats it, they arent going to suddenly have millions of nuke and go around being wankers trying to police the world, unlike our current superpower.
Lol. Do you honestly think the nation with a veto seat in the UN, the world's largest military, and 1 billion people will not take a dominant position if it could? If the US weren't in power the Chinese would be doing the exact same thing we are. They'll most definitely be around "helping out" various nations with socialist leanings or revolutionaries. Plus, I don't see how hegemony by a nation that at the least has a constitutional republic and guaranteed rights is worse than hegemony by a nation that openly violates the human rights of its citizens. Funny how Europeans decry how fascist and evil Bush is yet fail to realize that China is blatantly oppressive.
They have all the things required to do what America does at the moment, so please explain why they dont act like ass's. Them being the dominate economic power will change nothing other than causing the downfall of Americas power. We in Europe already have vibrant trade with China, so we have little to worry about as far as i can see.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-01-23 16:41:08)

2007-01-23 16:42:15
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6975|PNW

The world's always been disgruntled about any nation with significant influence.
2007-01-23 16:47:21
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6784|SE London

UGADawgs wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Chinese super power will be good. I think its going to be far more beneficial to the world than the US ever has been. They arent going to be a "superpower" in the sense you even understand, they will have economic power thats it, they arent going to suddenly have millions of nuke and go around being wankers trying to police the world, unlike our current superpower.
Lol. Do you honestly think the nation with a veto seat in the UN, the world's largest military, and 1 billion people will not take a dominant position if it could? If the US weren't in power the Chinese would be doing the exact same thing we are. They'll most definitely be around "helping out" various nations with socialist leanings or revolutionaries. Plus, I don't see how hegemony by a nation that at the least has a constitutional republic and guaranteed rights is worse than hegemony by a nation that openly violates the human rights of its citizens. Funny how Europeans decry how fascist and evil Bush is yet fail to realize that China is blatantly oppressive.
Of course. China would be much worse than the US.

People in Europe (well, I do and most people I know do) realise exactly how bad China being in a dominant position has the potential to be. It could be fine, because China are notoriously isolationist and probably wouldn't get very involved in things far away, but I'd hate to be a neighbouring nation if China were 'on top', which they will be in 50 years time anyway.
2007-01-23 16:49:19
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6969|UK
Bert if they realy wanted to be like that they could do it NOW. There is nothing to stop them. The US cant afford to go up against them, the only threat would be trade sanctions. Their culture is different to ours in such major ways. I think its safe to say they arent going to invade a load of other nations like the US has.
2007-01-23 16:50:31
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6923|California

Bertster7 wrote:

stryyker wrote:

I hate BBC. They are about as honest about Policy and progress as Fox news is with the Republican Campaign Watch.
lol

I think you'll find the BBC are one of the very few top contenders for the least biased mainstream media crown. The other contenders would be Reuters and the AP.
Says the man from England.
2007-01-23 16:51:08
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6943

paranoid101 wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:


Oh I'm sorry forgot it was your forum and we are supposed to ask your permission before posting.

I have alot of respect for the people who post in the Debate and Serious Talk forum without using personal attacks to get there point across and who post well thought out responses.

But you sir are an arrogant fool, who thinks he owns the forum and can attack anyone who has a slightly different opinion than you.

Your country has a bad image because of people like You, who are closed minded to anybody Else's opinion except the people who agreeing with you.

Now don't get me wrong this isn't an attack on your country at all, oh no I have alot of respect for the many American people that post on here and those in general.

Of cause I'm expecting to you response to be an attack or I don't care what you say, I don't know you and your not my friend so I don't care.

So to you question "Who are you?^^" well I'm the person who just bitch slapped you in this thread.
Feel better about yourself?
Yes fine thank you, very nice of you to ask.
I must apologize, where were my Manners.

So how are you?
2007-01-23 16:56:45
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6804|132 and Bush

stryyker wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

stryyker wrote:

I hate BBC. They are about as honest about Policy and progress as Fox news is with the Republican Campaign Watch.
lol

I think you'll find the BBC are one of the very few top contenders for the least biased mainstream media crown. The other contenders would be Reuters and the AP.
Says the man from England.
BBC has the best documentaries. (Just thought I'd say)
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2007-01-23 17:09:25
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6784|SE London

Vilham wrote:

Bert if they realy wanted to be like that they could do it NOW. There is nothing to stop them. The US cant afford to go up against them, the only threat would be trade sanctions. Their culture is different to ours in such major ways. I think its safe to say they arent going to invade a load of other nations like the US has.
No they couldn't. You seem to overestimate Chinas military capacity. They don't even have any carriers, which means no ability to project force over range. Their hardware is outdated and the US would respond with economic sanctions which would devastate the Chinese (and American) economy.

The communist regime in China is warped and extremely unpleasant. If they thought they could easily get away with things, they would.
2007-01-23 17:09:41
UGADawgs
Member
+13|6524|South Carolina, US

Vilham wrote:

Bert if they realy wanted to be like that they could do it NOW. There is nothing to stop them. The US cant afford to go up against them, the only threat would be trade sanctions. Their culture is different to ours in such major ways. I think its safe to say they arent going to invade a load of other nations like the US has.
\

Lol. This is nonsense. The Chinese have certainly had an interventionist foreign policy in the past, and I'm sure they'll support various socialist groups around the world.

Seriously, doesn't it bother you that an authoritarian, undemocratic nation blatantly abusive of human rights would be in control of the world?
2007-01-23 17:11:52
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6784|SE London

stryyker wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

stryyker wrote:

I hate BBC. They are about as honest about Policy and progress as Fox news is with the Republican Campaign Watch.
lol

I think you'll find the BBC are one of the very few top contenders for the least biased mainstream media crown. The other contenders would be Reuters and the AP.
Says the man from England.
And the majority of BF2S users (just).

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=58503
2007-01-23 17:14:55
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6857

Haven't read anyone else's post, but I don't think you can blame it all on the current Bush administration. Things really started going downhill with Nixon. Reagan was awesome, and Carter was alright, but aside from them, the last several presidents have been shit. This country really needs to reform. We need to start politically from ground zero again. We need to get people who can actually run this country (both Democrats and Republicans suck at running the country right now) and we need them fast.

Heh, anyone wanna have another Revolutionary War??? Let's just oust all the politicians and replace them with middle-class people of all races who actually have an idea what it's like for the average person living in this country instead of some uptight richass jerk who does politics only to get money and corrupt our country.
2007-01-23 17:15:43
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6784|SE London

UGADawgs wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Bert if they realy wanted to be like that they could do it NOW. There is nothing to stop them. The US cant afford to go up against them, the only threat would be trade sanctions. Their culture is different to ours in such major ways. I think its safe to say they arent going to invade a load of other nations like the US has.
\

Lol. This is nonsense. The Chinese have certainly had an interventionist foreign policy in the past, and I'm sure they'll support various socialist groups around the world.

Seriously, doesn't it bother you that an authoritarian, undemocratic nation blatantly abusive of human rights would be in control of the world?
It bothers me. But luckily China is in no position to do so militarily. Even if the US disappeared overnight, China could easily be kept in line by Europe (who have triple the defense budget of China), Russia and Japan.
2007-01-23 17:16:13
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6969|UK

UGADawgs wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Bert if they realy wanted to be like that they could do it NOW. There is nothing to stop them. The US cant afford to go up against them, the only threat would be trade sanctions. Their culture is different to ours in such major ways. I think its safe to say they arent going to invade a load of other nations like the US has.
\

Lol. This is nonsense. The Chinese have certainly had an interventionist foreign policy in the past, and I'm sure they'll support various socialist groups around the world.

Seriously, doesn't it bother you that an authoritarian, undemocratic nation blatantly abusive of human rights would be in control of the world?
Pretty much what we have at the moment.
2007-01-23 17:20:18
UGADawgs
Member
+13|6524|South Carolina, US

Vilham wrote:

UGADawgs wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Bert if they realy wanted to be like that they could do it NOW. There is nothing to stop them. The US cant afford to go up against them, the only threat would be trade sanctions. Their culture is different to ours in such major ways. I think its safe to say they arent going to invade a load of other nations like the US has.
\

Lol. This is nonsense. The Chinese have certainly had an interventionist foreign policy in the past, and I'm sure they'll support various socialist groups around the world.

Seriously, doesn't it bother you that an authoritarian, undemocratic nation blatantly abusive of human rights would be in control of the world?
Pretty much what we have at the moment.
This must be a joke. Besides all the crap about the Patriot Act and whatever, you really have to be a complete dumbass to think that the US is anywhere close to the level China is on.
2007-01-23 17:28:25
Superglueman
Member
+21|6562|The Great South Land

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

So?  Like I give a crap what they think.  I live my life and don't give a crap about them, I suggest they do the same.
Really?  Even if they are UK and Australia?  These two US allies have also a negative view of the US.  What can you expect from Muslim countries then?  You should give a crap.
They wont listen, because they have an arrogance beyond belief. 

Its pretty funny actually, even when nukes and bombs fall on the U.s, they'll still be saying "we are the best at this, we have the best that, we have the best movies".
Let them eat their lollipop existence while they can, the patience of the world to tolerate another self righteous aggressor is running out.

Just remember, everyone let Germany go on for a while, then all people united to fight germany.
Worse IS going to happen to the U.s, because u are turning out worse then them....

And dont kid yourself, NOONE supports America, most americans dont ....maybe a few slack jawed yokkels from mid west...only cause they dont have TV...

Gods doesnt like liars, or self righteous aggressors, he is not on your side. He is on that of the righteous....
2007-01-23 17:28:36
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6784|SE London

UGADawgs wrote:

Vilham wrote:

UGADawgs wrote:


\

Lol. This is nonsense. The Chinese have certainly had an interventionist foreign policy in the past, and I'm sure they'll support various socialist groups around the world.

Seriously, doesn't it bother you that an authoritarian, undemocratic nation blatantly abusive of human rights would be in control of the world?
Pretty much what we have at the moment.
This must be a joke. Besides all the crap about the Patriot Act and whatever, you really have to be a complete dumbass to think that the US is anywhere close to the level China is on.
It's not. But it is slipping to a mid-point between Chinese and European standards.
2007-01-23 17:30:52
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6570|Columbus, Ohio

Superglueman wrote:

Gods doesnt like liars, or self righteous aggressors, he is not on your side. He is on that of the righteous....
Mind telling me who the righteous are?
2007-01-23 17:31:42
Superglueman
Member
+21|6562|The Great South Land
You all think its just Bush, but he's just the tip....nothing about america taste good these days, sorry america your hayday is coming to an end...most likely a violent end.
2007-01-23 17:32:39
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6570|Columbus, Ohio

Superglueman wrote:

You all think its just Bush, but he's just the tip....nothing about america taste good these days, sorry america your hayday is coming to an end...most likely a violent end.
Mind telling me who the righteous ones are?
2007-01-23 17:33:22
Superglueman
Member
+21|6562|The Great South Land

usmarine2007 wrote:

Superglueman wrote:

Gods doesnt like liars, or self righteous aggressors, he is not on your side. He is on that of the righteous....
Mind telling me who the righteous are?
Non-Americans
2007-01-23 17:34:05
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6570|Columbus, Ohio

Superglueman wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Superglueman wrote:

Gods doesnt like liars, or self righteous aggressors, he is not on your side. He is on that of the righteous....
Mind telling me who the righteous are?
Non-Americans
Ok then.  Thank you for your valuable input.
2007-01-23 17:34:13
UGADawgs
Member
+13|6524|South Carolina, US

Superglueman wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

So?  Like I give a crap what they think.  I live my life and don't give a crap about them, I suggest they do the same.
Really?  Even if they are UK and Australia?  These two US allies have also a negative view of the US.  What can you expect from Muslim countries then?  You should give a crap.
They wont listen, because they have an arrogance beyond belief. 

Its pretty funny actually, even when nukes and bombs fall on the U.s, they'll still be saying "we are the best at this, we have the best that, we have the best movies".
Let them eat their lollipop existence while they can, the patience of the world to tolerate another self righteous aggressor is running out.

Just remember, everyone let Germany go on for a while, then all people united to fight germany.
Worse IS going to happen to the U.s, because u are turning out worse then them....

And dont kid yourself, NOONE supports America, most americans dont ....maybe a few slack jawed yokkels from mid west...only cause they dont have TV...

Gods doesnt like liars, or self righteous aggressors, he is not on your side. He is on that of the righteous....
If you topple the US, China will likely take its place. I doubt it'd be in the interests of Australia to have China as the dominant world power.

 

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