ericcartmanisbest
Member
+24|6753|GREAT Britain
helis on great wall? lmao, that would stop all those players who never cap a flag and spend the whole round on the wall as medics. they would all be shot dead in seconds

nice find btw. ive been to those villages u mention before, but i never saw the heli pads

Last edited by ericcartmanisbest (2006-07-02 19:03:24)

Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6855|Sweden
Nice find. Gotta go check it out myself.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6779|England

Ill check it out when I get a chance, nice find btw. Although, the pads do look way outa place on the terrain.

I was just wondering whether choppers would have actually balanced out the usual stalemate on Great Wall - where tanks just sit at the gates and shoot through, whilst the infantry just battle it out along the walls. Imagine a heli flying over that. Would be awesome fun for a heli it must be said. But, it would take away the only real infantry map in EF, so maybe thats why they left them out for that map? Unless they plannted to have Stingers on the tops of the towers to balance it out? Would be interesting to see on a full 64player server as to what it would be like.
Cant say I dont like EA/Dice for leaving them out and then not removing the helipads - why on earth would anyone ever usually try to go out that far? It has no effect on gameplay or the way the map is played or runs, so why bother?

And I always did wonder why there was mobile AA on the 16player version. I just assumed it was to shoot the EU parachutists out of the sky with
$teiner
Member
+8|6776|United Kingdom

Hellogoodsir wrote:

The Victorian Cross must be the brozne one. Other than that, they don't resemble anything I'm familar with.
Yar, it looks like the VC, the bronze one that is - not a clue what the other ones are supposed to be? I guess they intended to include the British Army as an entirely different faction at one point. You'd think that EA would cover their tracks if they decide not to release something, lol.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6779|England

Just been looking through the localisation files and guess what. Looks like EA left out some stuff for EF.
C:\Program Files\EA Games\Battlefield 2\mods\bf2\Localization\English\english_mappacks.utxt

It lists all of the CP names on the maps.....Great Wall has the following:

CP_16_GW_QuanTemple           Quan Temple
CP_16_GW_QuanCompound         DELETED
CP_16_GW_QuanWalkway          DELETED
CP_16_GW_CompundWall          DELETED
CP_16_GW_CentralWall          DELETED
CP_32_GW_QuanFortress         Quan Fortress
CP_32_GW_QuanCompound         Quan Compound
CP_32_GW_HuangVillage         Huang Village
CP_32_GW_CamYin               Cam Yin
CP_32_GW_LaoSengHill          Lao Seng Hill
CP_32_GW_LiuShuChunVillage    DELETED
CP_32_GW_WeiTianVillage       DELETED

CP_32_GW_LaoTianYeRoad        Lao Tian Ye Road


....looks like bold ones were going to be the heli spawning villages that Bot found. There are also some DELETED ones for Taraba Quarry....
Wonder if those deleted CP's would have made the map less of a stalemated war of attrition?


Also, for the kill messages, we have the following:

KILLMESSAGE_VEHICLE_harrier   DELETED
KILLMESSAGE_VEHICLE_lynx      Lynx AH-7
KILLMESSAGE_VEHICLE_vb1       DELETED

Although it combines the EF and AF into one file, I believe thats what the Harrier is from. Bastards left that out too.
But for EF...although the EU dont have a transport heli in any of their maps - I bet that thats what the Lynx was going to be for. As for a "vb1"...well, who knows.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6732|Adelaide, South Australia

zomg revive?

nice finding the left out stuff though, +1
Private_Adam
Medic since 1942
+245|6864|United States
Ea have put the heli pads on great wall but they forgot to add helicopters and +1
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|6843|Washington, DC

Snake wrote:

But for EF...although the EU dont have a transport heli in any of their maps - I bet that thats what the Lynx was going to be for. As for a "vb1"...well, who knows.
Google+TBF2 got me this:

http://www.scooterdaddy.com/vb1.html
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6779|England

Hurricane wrote:

Snake wrote:

But for EF...although the EU dont have a transport heli in any of their maps - I bet that thats what the Lynx was going to be for. As for a "vb1"...well, who knows.
Google+TBF2 got me this:

http://www.scooterdaddy.com/vb1.html
LOL - now that would be interesting.
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6829|do not disturb

I remember looking into that a while back when someone showed the directory to the sound files. I was listening to the EU sounds, and just sifted around to see if I could find anything else cool. I didn't think anyone really cared though.

Yea, I guess a tank and a few other goodies spawn at those new flags there too. And they call AF armored fury. The Lynx would have been sweet, and I wonder if the actual model is in the game. The A-10 came shipped with the BF2, and wasn't new to AF, it was just unlocked once you bought it.

If you think about it though, Great Wall would have looked a lot like Mashtuur city, but with more AA:o Great Wall is little too big already. The CPs in the out of bounds would have been sweet to fight in though. Same with Taraba, except jets totally ruined that map. And when no one is flying jets, they are tank whoring and the cover is shitty for AT.

And lawl at the VB1. I can see that spawning at the burger joint in Road Rage.
david363
Crotch fires and you: the untold story
+314|6952|Comber, Northern Ireland
they should of put in a chinook or a merlin as the EU transport
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6829|do not disturb

It has under it a 12.7mm chin turret machine gun. Interesting...
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6779|England

Yea...but it would be nerfed.
chaosdragon001
Whee
+53|6722|Los Angeles, California
Teh Lynx.

https://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow06/waddo/06lynx.jpg

Fuck I want one.
farmerfez
o wut?
+78|6743

man EA/Dice leave so much good stuff out of BF2......
its a shame really, they coulda added so much more content which probably woulda kept people playing longer and more people buying 2142 because theyd be more happy with EA's games.
Moonraker_x29
First man on Mars
+9|6903|England, GBR
There's so many sound files that are left out in BF2 and it's expansion packs (There's one in SF for British voices where the commander sounds well stupid, something about "your mother knowing you're here?" - lol).

I'm sure if someone who knows anything about how to modify the game (a-la mod or maybe modifying levels like Citizen One's guide), Will be able to do something about adding / modifying the map to allow choppas on! - I really need to reinstall EF BTW!
yUP|Patriots
Member
+7|6874
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6829|do not disturb

yUP|Patriots wrote:

http://media.putfile.com/EU-Commander
Oh hey yUP. Yea, the SAS and EU share a lot of the same lines. yUP has played the EU more than I have, so he knows better.
yUP|Patriots
Member
+7|6874
Hi Phrozen, nice to see you.
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6829|do not disturb

yUP|Patriots wrote:

Hi Phrozen, nice to see you.
Really:o
=ST6=SewerMaster
AK Whore
+152|7009|Barrington, RI
hey yup long time no see
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6779|England

yUP|Patriots wrote:

Hi Phrozen, nice to see you.
Holy crap, the ultimate EF player. 980hours worth!! Fair play.

Wish I still hade Smoke Screen as my most played map
yUP|Patriots
Member
+7|6874

=ST6=SewerMaster wrote:

hey yup long time no see
Hey MasterSewa

Hi Snake
Moonraker_x29
First man on Mars
+9|6903|England, GBR

yUP|Patriots wrote:

http://media.putfile.com/EU-Commander
That's the dialogue ja, but the SF one is actually funny.

*Have just reinstalled EF now
Ender2309
has joined the GOP
+470|6784|USA

First_and_Only wrote:

good find just shows how halfed ass EA does their work
actually, bf2 mapping can be extremely picky. its highly probable that for whatever reason taking those parts out ended up fucking with its ability to load without crashing.

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