Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6986

arson wrote:

lol real smart, then you just tell the police he tried to hit you and you defended yourself.
And he says you're lieing.  The difference is, he has the injury to take to court.

arson wrote:

With no witnesses it goes nowhere.
Again, physical evidence.

arson wrote:

Only a pussy would let someone punch them in the face without hitting them back.
Or someone who's got a lawyer friend.

arson wrote:

btw how many fights have you been in where the police were involved?
I don't make a habit of running around having punch-ons with strangers.  Besides which, the police don't have to be involved until after the fight, genius.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7141
A quote from my teacher who was in the US Army Special Forces for 20 years, graduated from Westpoint, His name is Arthur F. Torres. http://www.ast.tc.edu.tw/about02-1.asp

"You all know Jesus said that if you slap me on my cheek, I'll let you slap me on the other. Now thats BULLSHIT, If you slap me, I'm gonna slap you back"

Best ways to win fights is to hit their nerve clusters which can be found on peoples thighs and elbow joints. If you hit there hard, they will fall, no bruises, no evidence. They won't be coming up in a while.
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arson
Member
+99|7061|New York

arson wrote:

Only a pussy would let someone punch them in the face without hitting them back.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7076|USA

Dieselboy wrote:

A few weeks ago my 9yr old son came home with a split lip, and when asked how he got it he said that a boy 2 yrs older than him had punched him twice in the face to get his lunch money.

Like most good parents I was concerned and went to see the teachers who told me they would keep an eye out for any more signs of bullying and would act accordingly. I also went to see the other kids father who promptly told me to fuck off or I would get hurt as well.

That part was funny as me (ex- army para and pathfinder) vs him (grossly overweight, IT manager) doesn't quite look fair.....but I digress.

Last friday my son came home again with bruised ribs and a cut on his scalp.....apparantly the other kid had pushed him over, kicked him whilst he was on the floor and stole his money again. I was pissed, I went to the school and was fobbed off yet again.....went to the parents house and saw his father again, he refused to open the door and shouted obscenities through the letter box.

I was in the same situation when I started secondary school (highschool)....some older kid would punch me about and steal things. I had enough of this after a week so when he hit me again I snapped, grabbed him and beat the living shit out of him until he cried.......I never got bullied again.

I told my son what happened to me and hoped the teachers would sort this out before he had to do anything of the sort.......

Monday, I had a call to collect my son from school. When I got there I was told that a teacher had seen the older child punch my son and attempt to take his money......to which my son replied by grabbing his throat and punching him repeatedly in the face..... the other kid was taken to A&E with a broken nose.

My son has always been very popular at school, highly intelligent, very sporty, always happy and has a very placid nature and wouldn't harm a fly.......but he had just had enough and has become the only child in the school to stand up for himself and say I ain't taking this shit any longer. I have always taught him that violence should not be an answer but he should never be scared of sticking up for himself.

The other kid's father has been round and apologised for his son's and his own behaviour and the bully flinchingly apologised to my son......and in the few days since this happened he has apologised to half of my sons class as well.

My son is now back to his normal happy self but now has money for his lunch

So, I'm just wondering what everyone elses views on dealing with bullies are,

should you let the school deal with it?
should you deal with it personally?

or

should you teach your children that bullies only bully people that don't strike back?

Your views please
My sons are 9 and 10 I have raised them to show respect of others. It is their schools policy that anyone fighting would be suspended, including the victim. I told my sons never ever start a fight but don't cower in front of a bully either. If they got in a fight that they didn't start we would use their suspension time and go to Disneyland and celebrate their standing up for themselves.
Shem
sɥǝɯ
+152|6951|London (At Heart)

Good on your son.

Being brutally honest, nearly everyone has been bullied in their life, however it is unfortunately usually up to the kid to sort it out, as much as teachers try to help, they usually can't or won't. I was bullied and like your son, finally snapped and attacked the kid back, it sorted things out, I got suspended from school but was left well well alone for the rest of my schooling time. Mainly because the single punch I got onto hsi face managed to damage a nerve in his mouth beyond repair and actually made the kids front two teeth "die", they went black and kind of show to the rest of the world, "look at me, I did this to myself".

Bullying shouldn't be accepted in schools, however it is a real thing that happens at any age level, down to infants to adults, fortunately, kids aren't as cruel as adults, the fortunately for them, the repercussions are not as severe either.

When/If I ever have a child (bear in mind I'm still in my teens ), If I hear wind of him or her bullying anyone else I am not sure how I react, however I do believe that I would have little air left in my lungs, and the child the next day would be at school and I would have them apologise to the kid/s in front of his class, or something to that sense. It's always been something I'd hate to have to think about, someone I brought up to make someone elses life hell.

Last edited by Shem (2006-12-31 04:10:29)

Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7268|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Seriously, bullies need to taste some of their own medicine.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7074

Shem wrote:

Good on your son.

Being brutally honest, nearly everyone has been bullied in their life, however it is unfortunately usually up to the kid to sort it out, as much as teachers try to help, they usually can't or won't. I was bullied and like your son, finally snapped and attacked the kid back, it sorted things out, I got suspended from school but was left well well alone for the rest of my schooling time. Mainly because the single punch I got onto hsi face managed to damage a nerve in his mouth beyond repair and actually made the kids front two teeth "die", they went black and kind of show to the rest of the world, "look at me, I did this to myself".

Bullying shouldn't be accepted in schools, however it is a real thing that happens at any age level, down to infants to adults, fortunately, kids aren't as cruel as adults, the fortunately for them, the repercussions are not as severe either.

When/If I ever have a child (bear in mind I'm still in my teens ), If I hear wind of him or her bullying anyone else I am not sure how I react, however I do believe that I would have little air left in my lungs, and the child the next day would be at school and I would have them apologise to the kid/s in front of his class, or something to that sense. It's always been something I'd hate to have to think about, someone I brought up to make someone elses life hell.
Actually, I was never bullied. I'm pretty rad though.
Shem
sɥǝɯ
+152|6951|London (At Heart)

Nearly Everyone as I said
tiptopT
Member
+72|7006|Scotland's Capital
I used to get bullied when I was younger, funnily enough when I bump into these bullies now they are really REALLY nice!! Im sure lifting all those weights hasnt helped in this!

Id say go through school first, and if something happens again then atleast you tried the school but step in yourself.  Good job OP +1!!!
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7074

tiptopT wrote:

I used to get bullied when I was younger, funnily enough when I bump into these bullies now they are really REALLY nice!! Im sure lifting all those weights hasnt helped in this!

Id say go through school first, and if something happens again then atleast you tried the school but step in yourself.  Good job OP +1!!!
Your ginger though, being bullied just goes with the hair.

OH NOES!!! Teh internets bullyz!!

Shem
sɥǝɯ
+152|6951|London (At Heart)

ghettoperson wrote:

tiptopT wrote:

I used to get bullied when I was younger, funnily enough when I bump into these bullies now they are really REALLY nice!! Im sure lifting all those weights hasnt helped in this!

Id say go through school first, and if something happens again then atleast you tried the school but step in yourself.  Good job OP +1!!!
Your ginger though, being bullied just goes with the hair.

OH NOES!!! Teh internets bullyz!!

*reports to headmaster* That would be errrr?
tiptopT
Member
+72|7006|Scotland's Capital

ghettoperson wrote:

tiptopT wrote:

I used to get bullied when I was younger, funnily enough when I bump into these bullies now they are really REALLY nice!! Im sure lifting all those weights hasnt helped in this!

Id say go through school first, and if something happens again then atleast you tried the school but step in yourself.  Good job OP +1!!!
Your ginger though, being bullied just goes with the hair.

OH NOES!!! Teh internets bullyz!!

True true...if only i could facestab thru teh internets!! Id have you

Do you think that bullied kids are more driven in later life?  Strive to be top dog so no one can bully em again?
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7071
Yeah middle and high schools are generally fucked up when it comes to bullying. Basically they allow the bully to pick on whoever they want and when the victim strikes back he's the one who gets punished. It's fucking pathetic. Just steams you up it does.

That being said I've never been bullied or been in a fight my entire life. I don't like violence.
rusty_s_browne
Member
+0|6795

loonitic wrote:

1. - Your son owns
2. - Most schools dont do shit regardless of whats going on
3. - bullies only bully people that don't strike back? So stand up for yourself and dont take shit from them.
i used to get bulled at school and when i did fight back i got in truble and tay got way scot free them bing the "jocks" and when u dont do any thing and tell the teacher wat happens sweet fk all u get told 'we'll keep a eye out' next time nothing so u walk in the principals office and yell at her to get off her fken ass and do somthing u get suspend 4 a wk
two061vbma
Banned
+22|6800|Lenox MA
fuck that, if i see one of my friends in a fight, ill be the first one to jump in and punch the kid out

btw, like 2 maybe?
two061vbma
Banned
+22|6800|Lenox MA
I've never actually been the one whos started the fight.
Sir Aidyn Sage
DEATH FROM ABOVE!!!
+32|6788

two061vbma wrote:

fuck that, if i see one of my friends in a fight, ill be the first one to jump in and punch the kid out

btw, like 2 maybe?
Im with you on this but I used to have a couple of friends that whould cll me all the time and Say something like, "Hey the kids started shit with us and it s like 5 against 2..", So I would go and they would back down, I found out the the 2 fiends were actually starting the fights and I started refereeing so to speak...

FIrst I would find out who had the problem and the tell them it is going to be a ONE on ONE and if anyone else jumps in the we will have a problem and they would not want me to get into it, well it faded out after that the stopped calling for back up when the knew that I was not going to FIGHT thier battles for them but let them fight thier own battles FAIRLY.....

Problem SOLVED...

Also to get back on topic I had this friend when we were in 5th grade I remember Kicking his ass for some reason or another, but when we were in Jr high the BULLY {MIKE} would always pick on him till he snapped, no Jay wasnt a big guy and I think that mike could have taken Jay just by looking at the two of them but Jay stomped Mike and that was the last we ever heard of mike Bullying someone in our school.....
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7141
I do not start fights, but end them.
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