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Poll

Was Saddam's Hanging the Right Thing?

Yes65%65% - 202
No34%34% - 106
Total: 308
2006-12-31 12:50:00
JahManRed
wank
+646|7078|IRELAND

I voted no.
Yes he deserved to die and if the situation was different I would say let him hang.

However I think the Coalition and Iraqi governments missed an opportunity to set an example to the whole region that Violence and killing is not righted by violence and killing.

I watched the video and you can hear Saddam being taunted. Muqtada,muqtada,muqtada in reference to  muqtada al said who is every bit the homicidal manic Saddam was. The people so ready to hang Saddam for murdering their people want their own murderous leader to rule Iraqi. The same leader who is ethnically cleansing areas of Iraqi as Saddam done, particularly Baghdad with his police force. The hanging, like the whole country is a circus.

Last edited by JahManRed (2006-12-31 12:52:19)

2006-12-31 12:58:18
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6855|North Carolina

JahManRed wrote:

I watched the video and you can hear Saddam being taunted. Muqtada,muqtada,muqtada in reference to  muqtada al said who is every bit the homicidal manic Saddam was. The people so ready to hang Saddam for murdering their people want their own murderous leader to rule Iraqi. The same leader who is ethnically cleansing areas of Iraqi as Saddam done, particularly Baghdad with his police force. The hanging, like the whole country is a circus.
Wow...  I totally agree with this part.  I couldn't really make out what they were saying on that video, but I didn't make the connection.

Muqtada is definitely a psycho, but you know, if the people are that crazy, then I think America should leave and let Darwinism take its course.  Iran and Saudi Arabia are going to make Iraq a hellhole for years to come, and I really wouldn't care if they all just wiped each other out.

It would save us and the rest of the world the trouble of having to be peacekeepers.  We could just take the oil after the dust settled and move on.  Most of the world overall is doing its best to economically and socially progress, while most of the Islamic World is imploding.  If killing each other is what these people want, who are we to stop them?
2006-12-31 12:59:44
BeerzGod
Hooray Beer!
+94|7020|United States
Saddam deserved what he got. It doesn't matter whether he was removed from power or not, or whether he was killed after being removed or not. There will always be violence in the Middle-East. Killing Saddam isn't going to decrease or increase that. The fact is that we removed a truly evil man from having power that he never should of had. Despite how the rest of the World reacts, every other nation is happy even if they don't display such an emotion. The "Western World" is and always be in the World's spotlight. Just because we don't always have official support from other countries doesn't mean they don't support what this country does. Why would any other country risk being cast into the same critical spotlight as the US when it's so much easier for them to sit back on their asses, putting up a face of disagreement, but at the same time breathing a sigh of relief as we get the job done?
2006-12-31 13:01:59
crimson_grunt
Shitty Disposition (apparently)
+214|7104|Teesside, UK

sergeriver wrote:

Don't you think by hanging him they made him a martyr?
Was thinking about that today actually.  Guess we'll see.
2006-12-31 14:41:10
arabeater
Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?
+49|7131|Colorado Springs, CO

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

http://www.thamike.com/fn_images/satan_saddam.jpg

http://nonsensopedia.wikicities.com/ima … saddam.jpg
LOL, yea i guess now Saddam really is Satans gay lover. Now better hope that Saddam doesnt convince Satan to take over the world.
2006-12-31 14:44:07
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7280|Denver colorado
He killed millions of his people. YES. god damnit, if anyone deserves death its him.
2006-12-31 14:53:22
arabeater
Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?
+49|7131|Colorado Springs, CO

lavadisk wrote:

He killed millions of his people. YES. god damnit, if anyone deserves death its him.
Yea I agree, a guy like that doesnt deserve to breath the same air as the rest of the world. Hope he likes the heat. .
2006-12-31 23:26:38
JahManRed
wank
+646|7078|IRELAND

arabeater wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

http://www.thamike.com/fn_images/satan_saddam.jpg

http://nonsensopedia.wikicities.com/ima … saddam.jpg
LOL, yea i guess now Saddam really is Satans gay lover. Now better hope that Saddam doesnt convince Satan to take over the world.
yep I also love the various mature prospectives that bolloc constantly brings to the debate. without him, we would be lost, meier vessels of humanity...............
2006-12-31 23:31:44
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6855|North Carolina
Had a bit of Guinness there laddy?    Interesting way of spelling...  But yeah, I know what you mean, JahManRed...   Some of Fancy's pictures are hilarious, but others are a bit derailing...
2007-01-01 00:30:20
BVC
Member
+325|7146
No, because I do not believe in the death penalty.
2007-01-01 00:34:57
{A.K.A}LordBeefman
Member
+32|7051|Sydney, Australia
he got what he deserved and for all those knobs who don't agree go live under his regime then you would say hang the bastard
2007-01-01 00:35:44
Longbow
Member
+163|7097|Odessa, Ukraine
If someone wants the war in Iraq go on - then yes . This someone will stay there and they need a reason to stay . You know who is 'someone' , yeah ?

Fucking political murder .
2007-01-01 00:37:01
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7011

Pubic wrote:

No, because I do not believe in the death penalty.
My thoughts too.  Having said that, if the death penalty is a punishment that is accepted and used, then it was appropriate.
2007-01-01 00:39:51
arabeater
Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?
+49|7131|Colorado Springs, CO
He was hanged according to Iraqi Law so yes he got what he deserved. I think the Iraqi government shouldve let the Kurds have their way with him. That wouldve been something to watch on Pay Per View.
2007-01-01 01:48:02
Longbow
Member
+163|7097|Odessa, Ukraine
Current Iraq goverment is fake ; the only thing they can do is to lick US ass .
2007-01-01 07:16:09
fkin_
Member
+1|6875|any bt fucked up earth

Turquoise wrote:

SysTray wrote:

Taking Saddam out of power was wrong, what's going to make anything that happened after that right?
I believe removing Saddam was stupid, but not wrong.  We didn't have the right to remove him, but he was killing lots of his own people.  We removed an evil leader, so I can't really say that it was wrong to do.

On the other hand, it was stupid for us to do it the way that we did, because we didn't have the world's support.  If we had, things would be much smoother right now.
you say killing his own, well the shi-ites arnt muslims, there fucking fake's for a start. saddam was killed by fake muslims  and his killing funded by the us as vengeance probably, hence a martyr.

Last edited by fkin_ (2007-01-01 07:17:23)

2007-01-01 07:17:56
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7011

arabeater wrote:

He was hanged according to Iraqi Law so yes he got what he deserved.
He got what the Iraqi government believed he deserved.  That may be different to what he actually deserved.  Of course, there's no real way of defining what he actually deserved, since it depends on a myriad of factors, many of them open to personal opinion.
2007-01-01 10:01:43
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6855|North Carolina

fkin_ wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

SysTray wrote:

Taking Saddam out of power was wrong, what's going to make anything that happened after that right?
I believe removing Saddam was stupid, but not wrong.  We didn't have the right to remove him, but he was killing lots of his own people.  We removed an evil leader, so I can't really say that it was wrong to do.

On the other hand, it was stupid for us to do it the way that we did, because we didn't have the world's support.  If we had, things would be much smoother right now.
you say killing his own, well the shi-ites arnt muslims, there fucking fake's for a start. saddam was killed by fake muslims  and his killing funded by the us as vengeance probably, hence a martyr.
I don't see how you call Shiites a fake Muslim group.  Sure, they're greatly outnumbered by Sunnis in the rest of the world, but that doesn't make them any less Islamic.  Besides, most of the people Saddam killed were Kurds, who are usually Sunni.
2007-01-01 10:14:02
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6817|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:

arabeater wrote:

He was hanged according to Iraqi Law so yes he got what he deserved.
He got what the Iraqi government believed he deserved.  That may be different to what he actually deserved.  Of course, there's no real way of defining what he actually deserved, since it depends on a myriad of factors, many of them open to personal opinion.
Maybe he should have been gassed.  I think we can agree that is what he deserved.
2007-01-01 10:17:38
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7011
Nope, because I don't believe in the death penalty.  Having said that, it would have been poetic justice.
2007-01-01 10:19:34
ArkAng37
Member
+1|7295|San Antonio, TX
for those who said this was a bad thing that saddam is dead i want to beat the hell out of yall. Its  a good thing u tree hugging cock sucking faggots. Those of yall who said no think about this. What if you were the ones who were brutally exicuted? Huh? With saddam out of the pic that means that thats one less lunitic out of the way. With his ass out the way its going to be a hell of a lot easier for us to go in and wipe out the other guys we need to kill. Its going to be hell but in the end it will be better.
2007-01-01 10:34:54
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6855|North Carolina

ArkAng37 wrote:

for those who said this was a bad thing that saddam is dead i want to beat the hell out of yall. Its  a good thing u tree hugging cock sucking faggots. Those of yall who said no think about this. What if you were the ones who were brutally exicuted? Huh? With saddam out of the pic that means that thats one less lunitic out of the way. With his ass out the way its going to be a hell of a lot easier for us to go in and wipe out the other guys we need to kill. Its going to be hell but in the end it will be better.
Please tell us how you really feel.
2007-01-01 10:35:38
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|7096

JahManRed wrote:

arabeater wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

http://www.thamike.com/fn_images/satan_saddam.jpg

http://nonsensopedia.wikicities.com/ima … saddam.jpg
LOL, yea i guess now Saddam really is Satans gay lover. Now better hope that Saddam doesnt convince Satan to take over the world.
yep I also love the various mature prospectives that bolloc constantly brings to the debate. without him, we would be lost, meier vessels of humanity...............
One might say that South Park foreshadowed Saddam's fate. That said, I already made my point several pages ago. Most of what has followed is the inane "Hang Bush" babble, even though I clearly and accurately articulated how and why Saddam and Bush are different, and why Bush did not wage an illegal war nor is guilty of "crimes against humanity". Still, no one has addressed that in a manner in which could be considered debate worthy. It is simply a myriad of one-liners like "Hang Bush". This, sadly, holds true with most debates on this forum.

This entire thread can only be described as "saw it coming". You've got the typical anti-US crowd trying to harbor sympathy for Saddam. They can't see past the mundane details -- that is, Saddam was hung mid sentence, or that the method of execution is considered barbaric by Western culture. As a result, they ignore the horrible atrocities committed by Saddam and actually show sympathy towards him. These are the "nearsighted" people I addressed in my first post.

You've also got the jackasses that interject their little "Hang Bush" comments like they are witty or clever (thankfully, many of which have been deleted). I know that hating Bush is trendy, and believe me, I do not like him either, but at least add substance to your posts. That means when you make an assertion, follow it with proof. Don't just come in and say "Bush should be hung for crimes against humanity". Explain why using FACTS. It is at this point where many rational people will come to realize why Bush is not guilty of crimes against humanity and is nowhere near comparable to Saddam (again, I addressed this in my first post).

And we've got our typical Bubbalo attempting to blow this off as simply a matter of "personal opinion". Just like it was his "personal opinion" that the 9/11 terrorists were heroes. I could've predicted 90% of the replies to this thread.

Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2007-01-01 12:50:39)

2007-01-01 12:41:53
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7121|UK

Turquoise wrote:

fkin_ wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I believe removing Saddam was stupid, but not wrong.  We didn't have the right to remove him, but he was killing lots of his own people.  We removed an evil leader, so I can't really say that it was wrong to do.

On the other hand, it was stupid for us to do it the way that we did, because we didn't have the world's support.  If we had, things would be much smoother right now.
you say killing his own, well the shi-ites arnt muslims, there fucking fake's for a start. saddam was killed by fake muslims  and his killing funded by the us as vengeance probably, hence a martyr.
I don't see how you call Shiites a fake Muslim group.  Sure, they're greatly outnumbered by Sunnis in the rest of the world, but that doesn't make them any less Islamic.  Besides, most of the people Saddam killed were Kurds, who are usually Sunni.
This is not a question of numbers, you have to understand there are a few major difference between the Sunnis and the Shia Muslims interpretation of the Islamic faith.

The Islamic faith revolves around the word of God (the Quran) and the prophet Mohammad, more specfically his teaching and how he interpreted Gods word which is collectively known as the Hadith.  This is reflective of Sunni Muslims.

Shia accept Mohammad as a prophet but refuse to believe he is the focal point for the Islamic faith.  That honor goes to his Grandson Ali.   

Now you will understand why Shia are labeled 'fake', the vast majority of Sunni Muslims believe they have a warped understanding of the faith.

Last edited by m3thod (2007-01-01 12:42:16)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2007-01-01 12:49:21
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6855|North Carolina

m3thod wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

fkin_ wrote:


you say killing his own, well the shi-ites arnt muslims, there fucking fake's for a start. saddam was killed by fake muslims  and his killing funded by the us as vengeance probably, hence a martyr.
I don't see how you call Shiites a fake Muslim group.  Sure, they're greatly outnumbered by Sunnis in the rest of the world, but that doesn't make them any less Islamic.  Besides, most of the people Saddam killed were Kurds, who are usually Sunni.
This is not a question of numbers, you have to understand there are a few major difference between the Sunnis and the Shia Muslims interpretation of the Islamic faith.

The Islamic faith revolves around the word of God (the Quran) and the prophet Mohammad, more specfically his teaching and how he interpreted Gods word which is collectively known as the Hadith.  This is reflective of Sunni Muslims.

Shia accept Mohammad as a prophet but refuse to believe he is the focal point for the Islamic faith.  That honor goes to his Grandson Ali.   

Now you will understand why Shia are labeled 'fake', the vast majority of Sunni Muslims believe they have a warped understanding of the faith.
That makes sense.  Admittedly, my knowledge of Islam is limited.  I just find it funny that Sunnis and Shias would antagonize each other so much given the importance they seem to attribute to just the faith in Allah itself.  You would think that they'd relate better to each other, since the Jewish and Christian interpretations of God or Yahweh are distinctly different from either of theirs.

I guess it's not that different from how Catholics and Protestants antagonize each other in certain areas of the world.

 

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