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2006-12-31 11:31:53
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6759|Perth. Western Australia
Ok about 7-8 or so years ago when I still lived with my parents we knew these two people ill just call them Jane and Bob now Bob was 45 and Jane was 28 and they were both married. At first it was great but soon enough Jane was working 16 hours or so a day while bob did nothing so they could stay in Australia on a workers Visa. One day Jane visited my parents house and asked my mum (who does horoscopes etc) if there was a way for her to break up with her husband but for them to remain friendly. My mum gave her what she needed but her husband found out and thought my mum and her were trying to kill him. Jane's husband stopped Jane from coming to our house and became paranoid. Now Jane is really hot and her husband thought she was cheating on him with his psych Bob did a lot of stupid things and ended up in court. Jane left him and fled back to Europe while Bob stayed in Australia and was allowed to live here because he knew some people very high up. Bob is now married and lives in another city and is married to a 70 year old.

So Jane now couldn't come back to Australia unless she had an Australian husband... this is where I come in. Since I was 18 I could legally marry someone my mother asked me if I would marry Jane so she could live in Australia. The plan was Jane would come here in Australia as my fiance and get married to me (this is legal) we would have to be married for 2 years then could devorce and Jane could legally live here. Now Jane was a really great woman and no one could know what she had went through in her life she was forced to live in a wartorn country and I was a good friend of Jane so I accepted. The marriage didn't have to be physical except for 1 kiss and we would have to be married for 2 years meaning we could just be friends nothing physical would have to happen. I thought sure ok why not.

The plan went as we all agreed I married Jane and we remained married for 2 years until we got divorced this didn't really bother me at all or Jane we both knew we weren't in a serious relationship just as much I beleive that I was never married. Now Jane lives in Australia i've got a girlfriend who is cool with it so everything ended up good. And I am planning on marrying properly my new girlfriend. Do you guys think doing this kind of thing is right or is it wrong? Cause it aint illegal or so per say. Let's not turn this into a flame war I may or have may not really married Jane but I may also have done this. Her real name is not Jane also, I dont want to put this in D&ST cause its more like one of the true version's of the Fancy Bollox stories. So like before what do you guys think of this?
2006-12-31 11:45:33
FrankieSpankie3388
Hockey Nut
+243|6798|Boston, MA
I don't see what's wrong with it. The problem with the world is that people can't even do what they want anymore. If "Jane" wants to live in Australia, she should be able to. You're just kind of sticking it to the man! Way to go!
2006-12-31 11:52:46
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6793|South Florida
man, at the age of 18 being married to a 28 year old you should have like... Taken advantage of the situation. Like. maybe fucked her? Be like, "Ill devorce you and send you back to europe if we dont make this relationship physical"

Damn. Very unique situation
15 more years! 15 more years!
2006-12-31 11:54:21
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6759|Perth. Western Australia

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

man, at the age of 18 being married to a 28 year old you should have like... Taken advantage of the situation. Like. maybe fucked her? Be like, "Ill devorce you and send you back to europe if we dont make this relationship physical"

Damn. Very unique situation
Me and Jane were friends I would never have done that anything that has or hasnt happened was not forceful.
2006-12-31 11:57:07
Home
Section.80
+447|7115|Seattle, Washington, USA

I don't think it was wrong.
2006-12-31 11:57:19
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6793|South Florida
but honestly didnt you atleast think about ways to fuck her sometimes!!! its like unnatural not to if shes hot like you said!! lol
15 more years! 15 more years!
2006-12-31 11:58:36
chittydog
less busy
+586|7103|Kubra, Damn it!

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

man, at the age of 18 being married to a 28 year old you should have like... Taken advantage of the situation. Like. maybe fucked her? Be like, "Ill devorce you and send you back to europe if we dont make this relationship physical"

Damn. Very unique situation
So you'd put her in a sexually abusive situation while trying to help her? Idiot.

Spray, sometimes this is an easy (although morally grey) way to help someone get to a better life. It does make things difficult for the people who legitimately want to get married to a foreigner. My wife and I had to go through all kinds of nonsense to prove our marriage is real because of situations like this. On one hand, it's an example of someone screwing the honest people because you're trying to cheat the system. On the other hand, it's giving someone a much better life than they could've had otherwise. Tough decision. It really depends on how bad her life was in Europe.
2006-12-31 11:59:12
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6759|Perth. Western Australia

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

but honestly didnt you atleast think about ways to fuck her sometimes!!! its like unnatural not to if shes hot like you said!! lol
I said I may or may have not done anything I didn't have to do anything but it also didn't mean I didn't do anything...
2006-12-31 12:02:02
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6888|Mhz

And this is why that particular rule is just pointless, all it does is make people lie. You did the right thing, no doubt about it.

spray_and_pray wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

but honestly didnt you atleast think about ways to fuck her sometimes!!! its like unnatural not to if shes hot like you said!! lol
I said I may or may have not done anything I didn't have to do anything but it also didn't mean I didn't do anything...
aka, you didn't do anything

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2006-12-31 12:02:49)

2006-12-31 12:02:22
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6759|Perth. Western Australia

chittydog wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

man, at the age of 18 being married to a 28 year old you should have like... Taken advantage of the situation. Like. maybe fucked her? Be like, "Ill devorce you and send you back to europe if we dont make this relationship physical"

Damn. Very unique situation
So you'd put her in a sexually abusive situation while trying to help her? Idiot.

Spray, sometimes this is an easy (although morally grey) way to help someone get to a better life. It does make things difficult for the people who legitimately want to get married to a foreigner. My wife and I had to go through all kinds of nonsense to prove our marriage is real because of situations like this. On one hand, it's an example of someone screwing the honest people because you're trying to cheat the system. On the other hand, it's giving someone a much better life than they could've had otherwise. Tough decision. It really depends on how bad her life was in Europe.
The reason they came here is because they were serbians living in Bosnia they would have possibly been shot or killed they sent her back to Bosnia instead of Serbia even though the war is over people will still kill you because of where you come from in quick terms its fucked up she would have a wage of under 10K US a year and would have to live in fear. No way they managed to escape the war in the 90's she worked her ass of she didn't deserve to be put back in a country in which she worked her ass off to stay out of it. If her proper husband wasn't a dickhead she would have been able to stay in Australia no matter what.
2006-12-31 12:05:09
chittydog
less busy
+586|7103|Kubra, Damn it!

spray_and_pray wrote:

The reason they came here is because they were serbians living in Bosnia they would have possibly been shot or killed they sent her back to Bosnia instead of Serbia even though the war is over people will still kill you because of where you come from in quick terms its fucked up she would have a wage of under 10K US a year and would have to live in fear. No way they managed to escape the war in the 90's she worked her ass of she didn't deserve to be put back in a country in which she worked her ass off to stay out of it. If her proper husband wasn't a dickhead she would have been able to stay in Australia no matter what.
In that situation, it was justified. Bosnia's a fucked up place for serbs now.

Last edited by chittydog (2006-12-31 12:05:40)

2006-12-31 12:05:22
Retalliation[1337]
Robin Hood ---> "u got arrownd"
+51|6742|Belgium
U did the right thing.U should be proud for helping her.Karma will repay u in kin(d)

No serieously I have no prob at all with that kind of stuff
2006-12-31 12:07:17
Dr_Paulos236
Member
+41|6663|England
So what you're saying is you definitely did not do things that wouldn't contradict yourself doing so you could not do and so therefore do what was right but not right you did anyway even though you didnt not do it?

Lol I hate mysterious answers.
2006-12-31 12:08:53
chittydog
less busy
+586|7103|Kubra, Damn it!

Dr_Paulos236 wrote:

So what you're saying is you definitely did not do things that wouldn't contradict yourself doing so you could not do and so therefore do what was right but not right you did anyway even though you didnt not do it?

Lol I hate mysterious answers.
And punctuation too, apparently.
2006-12-31 12:11:37
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6759|Perth. Western Australia

Dr_Paulos236 wrote:

So what you're saying is you definitely did not do things that wouldn't contradict yourself doing so you could not do and so therefore do what was right but not right you did anyway even though you didnt not do it?

Lol I hate mysterious answers.
Ok im not saying I definately did or didnt do it but if it confuses you enough the story is true. +1 chitty for the good laugh.
2006-12-31 12:14:07
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6759|Perth. Western Australia

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

And this is why that particular rule is just pointless, all it does is make people lie. You did the right thing, no doubt about it.

spray_and_pray wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

but honestly didnt you atleast think about ways to fuck her sometimes!!! its like unnatural not to if shes hot like you said!! lol
I said I may or may have not done anything I didn't have to do anything but it also didn't mean I didn't do anything...
aka, you didn't do anything
Heh if thats what you want to think living 2 years in the same house....

Ill just say officially it wasn't serious but everyone sometimes gets tipsy including me.

Last edited by spray_and_pray (2006-12-31 12:24:23)

2006-12-31 12:40:03
FrankieSpankie3388
Hockey Nut
+243|6798|Boston, MA

spray_and_pray wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

man, at the age of 18 being married to a 28 year old you should have like... Taken advantage of the situation. Like. maybe fucked her? Be like, "Ill devorce you and send you back to europe if we dont make this relationship physical"

Damn. Very unique situation
Me and Jane were friends I would never have done that anything that has or hasnt happened was not forceful.
A man with class, very hard to come by these days... He wasn't thinking of fucking her because he's good friends with her. Another problem with the world is that all men think about nowadays is sex. Most people see a girl and the first thing they think about is whether they would want to fuck her or not. Jeez, get to know a girl and you'll be happy, you don't have to have sex with her...
2006-12-31 13:07:23
MagikTrik
yes.....but your still gay
+138|6638|Pittsburgh, PA USA
No way. Ain't a damn thing wrong with that if you did it willingly.
Why ask though?
2006-12-31 15:49:39
{uscm}Jyden
You likey leaky?
+433|6946|In You Endo- Stoke

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

spray_and_pray wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

man, at the age of 18 being married to a 28 year old you should have like... Taken advantage of the situation. Like. maybe fucked her? Be like, "Ill devorce you and send you back to europe if we dont make this relationship physical"

Damn. Very unique situation
Me and Jane were friends I would never have done that anything that has or hasnt happened was not forceful.
A man with class, very hard to come by these days... He wasn't thinking of fucking her because he's good friends with her. Another problem with the world is that all men think about nowadays is sex. Most people see a girl and the first thing they think about is whether they would want to fuck her or not. Jeez, get to know a girl and you'll be happy, you don't have to have sex with her...
Yes but thats waht most men do,you look at a girl and the first thing you think is "OOOOhhh shes hot i bet she gives good head".

@Spray- you did the right think in the this instance but,i don't agree with the idea of it all.Doesn't Australia have a point system? and have to have some much money on your bank too?
2006-12-31 15:57:08
chittydog
less busy
+586|7103|Kubra, Damn it!

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

Another problem with the world is that all men think about nowadays is sex.
It's probably a stretch calling the fools making these comments here "men". My money says they're all < 18, probably < 16. None of them seem to be mature enough to notice there's a serious discussion here or that women must be treated with respect, they can only focus on the thought of boobies. This type of thinking tends to run rampant in boys still too young to have actually touched a woman.

Anyway, I don't think that's anything new about men thinking about sex. We all want it. The difference is that real men don't let it control them.
2006-12-31 16:48:03
TuataraDude
Member
+115|6790|Aotearoa
It may not be illegal, but the fact that you are wondering should be proof enough that it is a morally grey area. There are a lot of people jumping through hoops to get what Jane got through a loop hole.
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Having said that, I have never been in your situation and it is easy to be judgemental about these things if your not personally involved.
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You did what you did for the best of reasons, but then as they say...."The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
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Helping someone out purely for the sake of doing the right thing and then not taking advatage of the situation is something that many people could not have done and you should be commended.
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Oh to hell with it. Seems like you did the right thing, but there are other people who would disagree and probably have a good point.

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2006-12-31 17:16:56
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6848|the dank(super) side of Oregon
IF anything, it's a cool story to tell people.
2006-12-31 18:11:23
JohnnyBlanco
Member
+44|6839|England

Reciprocity wrote:

IF anything, it's a cool story to tell people.
Yeah its cool, morally a WEE bit dubiouse for some but fair play to you. As for the immigration aspect, theres nowt wrong with someone willing to work in a foreign country for a better life. If shes hot she's an asset to your country! But please tell me you got a fuck, i know she might not be like that but please tell me you at least had a wank while she was sleeping.
2007-01-01 02:47:22
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6759|Perth. Western Australia

{uscm}Jyden wrote:

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

spray_and_pray wrote:


Me and Jane were friends I would never have done that anything that has or hasnt happened was not forceful.
A man with class, very hard to come by these days... He wasn't thinking of fucking her because he's good friends with her. Another problem with the world is that all men think about nowadays is sex. Most people see a girl and the first thing they think about is whether they would want to fuck her or not. Jeez, get to know a girl and you'll be happy, you don't have to have sex with her...
Yes but thats waht most men do,you look at a girl and the first thing you think is "OOOOhhh shes hot i bet she gives good head".

@Spray- you did the right think in the this instance but,i don't agree with the idea of it all.Doesn't Australia have a point system? and have to have some much money on your bank too?
Point system works In 3 ways Money, Education, Status (single or married) before she got in because she was married to a non Aussie but he had University he used to do childrens shows. But he is probably the most screwed in the head person I have ever seen he is a sociopath and cared more about the dog they had then his wife. He was also into alot of crap with the cops he was a paedophile and a large robber, he used to steal from the liquor shops he "worked at". I cant beleive filth like that can continue to live in this great country when someone who worked hard to stay here cant. Anyway im 3rd generation Australian and quite a bit of generations Serbian but my great great grandpa was born here and my grandmother lived here. I was happy to be accepted into this great country and was greatful enough that I joined the reserves theres about 72K soldiers in Australia and its in its 90's in % of how much of it is with reserves. We have a small army but we are more technologically advanced then the country we share borders with... Indonesia. So far in the war in Iraq we have only used SAS so chances of me ever seeing combat are slim unless sh*t hits the fan. I don't even count myself as being in the army all I got was 3 months or so of Basic training and I gotta go every few weeks or every week or so to stay sharp. I realise how lucky I was to get into Australia I didn't even work hard for it. Jane did and she deserved to be a citizen, she was probably the most hardest working person ive seen.

She worked at some cruddy cafe from morning to its close down time at midnight and worked Mon-Sat she also had another job on Sunday. I found it unfair that her peice of sh*t husband managed to evade everything without working. The only reason she did leave was because of him she was doing the work of two people and couldn't take it anymore after about 1 or 2 years of just that.

The reason I asked everyone was just to see what their oppinion on it was. I was about 100% sure with myself that I did the right thing.

Not all this is directed at the person I quoted just the 1st paragraph of the 1st half or so. I find when I talk about something I tend to go too much into details creating a wall of text. Blame it on the year 12 English teacher I had with all the 20 page essay's etc.
2007-01-01 02:52:17
r'Eeee
That's how I roll, BITCH!
+311|6716

Its cool man, nuthin wrong with that xD

 

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