BF2S Forums Let us remember ordinary Christians in Iraq this Christmas

IG-Calibre wrote:

...The Archbishop of Canterbury has accused the UK government of placing Christians in the Middle East at risk through its actions in Iraq.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6205299.stm

Wow... this is one of the few times where I find myself in agreement with the clergy.

On the one hand, you can't really blame the British government for the actions of terrorists, but on the other hand, the Coalition of the Willing did create an environment of chaos by removing a stable (albeit oppressive) government.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

the Coalition of the Willing did create an environment of chaos by removing a stable (albeit oppressive) government.

Stable. Tell that to the people who were slaughtered under Saddam's stable regime.

Turquoise wrote:

you can't really blame the British government for the actions of terrorists

I never said stability was a compassionate thing.  Still, the difference between worrying if a dictator will kill you and whether or not a group of terrorists will kill you is a matter of logic.  Saddam usually only killed people that he saw as a threat to his power.  Terrorists kill people for the fuck of it.  You can avoid the wrath of a dictator by mostly keeping a low profile -- you can't avoid a bomb wielding maniac very easily.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

the Coalition of the Willing did create an environment of chaos by removing a stable (albeit oppressive) government.

Stable. Tell that to the people who were slaughtered under Saddam's stable regime.

I never said stability was a compassionate thing.  Still, the difference between worrying if a dictator will kill you and whether or not a group of terrorists will kill you is a matter of logic.  Saddam usually only killed people that he saw as a threat to his power.  Terrorists kill people for the fuck of it.  You can avoid the wrath of a dictator by mostly keeping a low profile -- you can't avoid a bomb wielding maniac very easily.

I don't know how many times I've said this in DST, but dead is dead. A corpse doesn't care whether or not its murderer was government or criminal.

I can't debate that.  It's just that I don't see Iraq as being better now than it was under Saddam.  How do you?....

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I can't debate that.  It's just that I don't see Iraq as being better now than it was under Saddam.  How do you?....

It was chaotic before, it's chaotic now and it will continue to be chaotic for some time to come. You'll never find me praising the situation in Iraq.

Then, perhaps, you'd agree that invasion was rather futile....

^^^^ Wow. You really believe that?

Last edited by chittydog (2006-12-23 20:34:05)

Turquoise wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I can't debate that.  It's just that I don't see Iraq as being better now than it was under Saddam.  How do you?....

It was chaotic before, it's chaotic now and it will continue to be chaotic for some time to come. You'll never find me praising the situation in Iraq.

Then, perhaps, you'd agree that invasion was rather futile....

Invasion is not futile. Fruitless occupation is.

LostFate wrote:

commissargizz wrote:

Let's remember all the people in Iraq, all of the time and not on some stupid Christian festival.

Yeah just some stupid festival, its only when jesus was born after all.

Scientists think he was born around Easter or something, but then I dont really give a shit so what ever.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It was chaotic before, it's chaotic now and it will continue to be chaotic for some time to come. You'll never find me praising the situation in Iraq.

Then, perhaps, you'd agree that invasion was rather futile....

Invasion is not futile. Fruitless occupation is.

Hmmm?...  If you're suggesting that we fund the costs of the occupation with revenue from the oil produced in Iraq, then I agree.  Unfortunately, it's a bit too chaotic for us to establish a viable system for that at the moment.

Last edited by Turquoise (2006-12-29 00:41:01)