Fen321
Member
+54|6923|Singularity
Click meh this sounds like a great idea, what better way to help out people defend themselves from government then to let them know what they plan on doing.

Governments purpose..... defend you from others

Not governments purpose defend you from yourself

Last edited by Fen321 (2006-12-25 21:38:42)

PvtStPoK
paintball > bf2
+48|6940|montreal, quebec

always useful if you're not completely a saint
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut
I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
Malloy must go
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7088|USA

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
My question is : would it be easier or harder for the govt to regulate?
Malloy must go
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7088|USA

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
My question is : would it be easier or harder for the govt to regulate?
Easier. Tax paying good natured hard working citizens get tired of going to the seedy part of town to pick up some herb or the dirty prostitute corner where the dealer hangs and there is the possibility of getting arrested or robbed. If it were regulated and taxed "coffeeshops" would explode all over the nation where people can go into a comfortable market type atmosphere where they WILL pay less than they are with it legal and get a good product. If they get shafted they'll actually have someone to complain to. (BBB or US Gov) Where now if you get robbed of your weed, who you gonna call? Nobody. the shady dealer just got your cash, your herb and your stuck. So in short, yes. It would be easier to regulate.

A correct inventory of the market would be impossible considering everyone and thier brother will be growing it if it were legal. Soooooooooo, to grow you would need a growing liscence ala tobacco farming. To sell, you will need a business liscence ala everything else.

As far as "easier" to regulate, it has to be regulated first in order to be easier. Right now there is no regulation. Just non-violent offenders getting locked up and overcrowding prisons and coming out worse than what they went in.

Regulating and taxing would drive the black market out with lower prices and a stable market.
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
+77|7013|sWEEDen
Soo where might i get this video? My second proffesion is growing/thcbombing sweden. =P

And for the legal part, everyone that drink and still want thc to be illegal should really check their facts about using any drugs at all. Damn alcohol...damn it i say!

Bong in progress! Requesting friendly fire!!!

dread out.
Fen321
Member
+54|6923|Singularity
for real regulation is far better than criminalization, prohibition is testament to this. The video i haven't been able to find it anywhere for "free", but I'm sure the guy has a website of some sort promoting it.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
Weed should indeed be legal....  Of course, there are two large competitive markets that want to keep it illegal -- alcohol and cigarettes.  Don't you love it when lobbies decide what you can do in your personal life?
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7088|USA

Turquoise wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
Weed should indeed be legal....  Of course, there are two large competitive markets that want to keep it illegal -- alcohol and cigarettes.  Don't you love it when lobbies decide what you can do in your personal life?
The powers that be my friend. As long as they don't try to step over my threshold. I feel for the officer that kicks in my door.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
Yes, because it's not like it's been proven to cause mental disorders or anything....................
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7088|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
Yes, because it's not like it's been proven to cause mental disorders or anything....................
They've tried to link it to schizophrenia. That arguments going the same way as the "kills braincells argument". Stay tuned Bubbalo.

When I smoke MJ, am I affecting you in anyway? Nope? Exactly. Thanks for trying to protect me though.

I <3 you too
Fen321
Member
+54|6923|Singularity
If it were linked to causing mental disorders i highly doubt Doctors would recommend its usage for patients undergoing chemo, Aids, etc. I gotta find the study that found that it also helps prevent diseases such as Alzheimer. Hehe not even LSD-25 which is more of a hallucinogen "causes" mental disorders, but then again like mason said, its not effecting you in any way. Yet i know for a fact that if i drink excessive amounts of alcohol for a period of time my liver will eventually fail, but its still legal. Its called moderation and proper usage .

Recent Research on Medical Marijuana Usage
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7088|USA
Altzheimers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148518,00.html

Marijuana doesn't cause lung cancer
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 01729.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196678,00.html

Included Fox News for my neo-con friends.

Last edited by Mason4Assassin444 (2006-12-26 18:21:14)

[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
+77|7013|sWEEDen
Mental disorder? Well many people can´t handle cannabis....neither alcohol....they just shouldn´t be using any drugs at all. If you can´t handle the heat....stay out of my bong.
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6996|Portland, OR, USA

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
After seeing what smoking has done to my grandparents, I'm not touching any of that shit, I don't care how 'good for you' it is, your smoking smoke... I think life's short enough but I'm not judging anyone... GL and HF..
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6820|The Gem Saloon
if THC is burned at the CORRECT tempature it doesnt even have any carcinagens. its when it gets lit with a lighter that it turns bad for you.
i used to be really into thinking that it would be legalized some day......not in our lifetime though. ive done the numbers and the government would prosper immensly, it just wont happen. NORML isnt going to do shit...maybe if they had people that didnt sit around and have rallys where people smoke and say stuff like "dude, why ISNT this legal" people would take the issue seriously.
besides the US is making WWAAAAYYYYYYY too much money from arresting small time marijauna buyers.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

They've tried to link it to schizophrenia. That arguments going the same way as the "kills braincells argument". Stay tuned Bubbalo.
No, it has been linked to schizophrenia, and adolescents are particularly vulnerable.

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

When I smoke MJ, am I affecting you in anyway? Nope? Exactly. Thanks for trying to protect me though.
By that logic there are a huge number of things which should be legalised: all drugs, gay marriage, incest.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

Fen321 wrote:

If it were linked to causing mental disorders i highly doubt Doctors would recommend its usage for patients undergoing chemo, Aids, etc.
There are side effects to any medicine, and marijuana is only ever recommended in small quantities for periods which aren't indefinite.
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
+235|7105

Parker wrote:

if THC is burned at the CORRECT tempature it doesnt even have any carcinagens. its when it gets lit with a lighter that it turns bad for you.
i used to be really into thinking that it would be legalized some day......not in our lifetime though. ive done the numbers and the government would prosper immensly, it just wont happen. NORML isnt going to do shit...maybe if they had people that didnt sit around and have rallys where people smoke and say stuff like "dude, why ISNT this legal" people would take the issue seriously.
besides the US is making WWAAAAYYYYYYY too much money from arresting small time marijauna buyers.
Dude your so right! lol nah , seriously your F'ing right. Marijuana busts are a major, major money maker
for the police forces states wide. It is quite unfortunate living in the "land of the free" and not be able to smoke a big fat joint like out forefathers did in the ol' west back in the day. LoL , go to Holland , Amsterdam. THAT is the land of the free my friend. The USA is a fucking jail cell. A dirty one at that. Trash everywhere. In Holland, in a 2 weeks stay, seriously- the only lasting memory was how clean everything was. Not one F'ing smoke butt on the ground, not one speck of paper for miles. I swear I pocketed every single smoke I had if I couldn't find a place to throw it in lol . Shit man go soon. Round trip from Philadelphia to Holland only $411 !!!! Round "trip" hahahahhaah .
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6996|Portland, OR, USA
Jesus, why the hell would you smoke??  I have friends that do it and they aren't all there anymore... seems like a fucking waste to me...
Fredrik
i hate you all
+201|7074|Norway

Bubbalo wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

When I smoke MJ, am I affecting you in anyway? Nope? Exactly. Thanks for trying to protect me though.
By that logic there are a huge number of things which should be legalised: all drugs, gay marriage, incest.
Try replacing "you" with "anyone"
What`s the difference between gay marriage and incest? Why should only one of them be outlawed?

Last edited by Fredrik (2006-12-26 19:50:23)

chittydog
less busy
+586|7261|Kubra, Damn it!

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I agree with him a little. I dont use drugs, not even pot so I am not exactly a "valued" opinion in this matter. I do feel that weed being illegal does empower small time drug dealers. It creates a market for them to receive a lucrative income, but not pay taxes. If the govt legalized it, would it be easier to regulate? I really dont know. debate.
There is no debate. Weed should be legal.  Anyone debating against it being legal would lose.
Considering that it's still illegal, in spite of years of lobbying to have it legalized, I feel it's safe to say that anyone debating against it being legal would most definitely win, since they have been winning for a long time.
chittydog
less busy
+586|7261|Kubra, Damn it!

The issue with this former cop isn't whether or not pot should be legal, it's the fact that he's teaching people to violate the law, something he's sworn to uphold.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6793|Columbus, Ohio
You Internet sheep.  The anarchists cook book was around way before the interweb.

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