unnamednewbie13
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+2,072|7196|PNW

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The United States and its European allies are seeking sanctions against Iran because of its refusal to stop uranium enrichment, a technology that can be used to produce nuclear fuel for civilian purposes or fuel for a nuclear bomb.
Why do we (the US and its European allies) feel the need to stop them from building a legitimate energy infrastructure?  I still don't get how the US and other nuclear powers feel the need to tell the world who can have nuclear power and who can't.
Because Iran's president is openly proclaiming the annihilation of Israel and Iran supports terrorism.
I hate to be a party-pooper, but so does the US, from time to time.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6919

King_County_Downy wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.

Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control  feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
Wow. don't ask us for help when they attack you, kay?

And you also forget "we" are your ancestors and relatives.
They won't attack him and we aren't his ancestors, though he may have some relatives.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7196|PNW

King_County_Downy wrote:

And you also forget "we" are your ancestors and relatives.
*cough*descendants*cough*

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-12-19 15:28:09)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7021|Seattle

jonsimon wrote:

They won't attack him and we aren't his ancestors, though he may have some relatives.
Hmm...I'm pretty sure he is "an infidel, aligned with America and Israel" through skin color and political prowess.
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King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7021|Seattle

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

And you also forget "we" are your ancestors and relatives.
*cough*descendants*cough*
That's what I meant. Leave me alone, I'm high   rofl

damn it I wish I could speak teh Engrish better!
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IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6915|Northern California

DBBrinson1 wrote:

You sure have faith in your country and its army.  Osama's campaign?  What is he doing now?  Laughing?  I doubt it.  I think he's either dead or hiding under some rock.  When was the last time he's done anything major to the US?  How many other false warnings had he issued since 911?

Carnage in Iraq?  ITS A FRIGGIN WAR.  What the hell do you think happens in war zones?  Go watch some more CNN.  You have ignored the stories of schools built, women voting and children being vaccinated against diseases.  I can't fathom how you don't support removing an evil dictator.  You bitch about a few bad apples in the military teasing kids with water bottles.  You bitch about tankers punishing looters.  When did you bitch about Saddam raping and pillaging his own country?  Where was your loud mouth then?

Your blind hatred of the US military and the President are astounding.  All that smog on the left coast has gotten to your brain.
I have faith (probably more like "hope") in my country and it's army in defending itself domestically.  But bullying and attacking other nations? Why the need to have faith in something so despicable.  Further, we lost to a bunch of home made bomb makers.  Oh wait, you're one of the guys that thinks we're "winning."  lol

WAR?  Did Iraq declare war on us?  I think you mean to say "INVASION OF A SOVEREIGN NATION WITHOUT PROVOCATION."  Did their leader get captured and tried in court?  But why the continual bloodshed?  Schools being built?  Women voting and children being vaccinated?  Yeah, that was cool for 20 minutes until the schools were destroyed, women lynched for not wearing head scarves, children dying from car bombs (but hey, they aren't getting polio, right?).  Here is what you can do with your "what about the schools.." bs  But she's from CNN so she must be lying, eh?

Osama dead or hiding under a rock?  Ok cowboy, go ahead and think how you want.  Chances are he's sitting among friends in someones home in pakistan right now watching the news, working with his people who are easily replacing the ones lost by the dozens.  You really have to get out of that bubble dude..it's shrinking rapidly.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7196|PNW

King_County_Downy wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

And you also forget "we" are your ancestors and relatives.
*cough*descendants*cough*
That's what I meant. Leave me alone, I'm high   rofl

damn it I wish I could speak teh Engrish better!
Common error.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina
If we do attack Iran, it will need to be very carefully executed....   I'll explain more in a separate thread....
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6791|Columbus, Ohio

JahManRed wrote:

I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.

Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control  feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want.  Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.

Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control  feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want.  Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.
I'd assume being in Ireland would be pretty cool, other than the high taxes of course.

But seriously, when you're a small country, you can afford to be more isolationist.   Yet, we could stand to be less interventionist, despite our size.  I still don't understand how anyone could find invading Iraq to be of grave importance, but nevertheless, we'd be best off if we didn't invade anyone else for at least a decade or two.
shadowkila
Member
+26|6834|Canada
LMFAO.If the U.S.A attack Iran i won't believe my fucking eyes. It would be the stupidest thing they could do I mean you guys are stretched so thin can't even afford to send in reinforcements to Iraq. Give me a fucking break.

Last edited by shadowkila (2006-12-19 16:26:13)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

usmarine2007 wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.

Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control  feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want.  Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.
You don't eat potatoes and drink beer?
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6811

Stingray24 wrote:

"The idea of building up of U.S. Navy forces has been discussed over some time and it's unclear when a decision will be made, the defense official said.

The aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower is already in the region. It left the United States in late September with four other Norfolk-based ships and submarines carrying 6,500 sailors.

The flotilla headed to the Mediterranean Sea and eventually went to relieve the Norfolk-based aircraft carrier USS Enterprise strike group, which was in the region supporting operations in Iraq and        Afghanistan.

Also, the U.S. in late October led a naval training exercise aimed at blocking smuggling of nuclear weapons in the Persian Gulf.

The six-nation maneuvers off the coast of Iran were the first of their kind since North Korea's Oct. 9 nuclear test and U.N. sanctions that called on the international community to conduct searches at sea to ensure the reclusive communist nation is not secretly expanding its nuclear program.
------------------
That sounds like a Tom Clancy novel I read.  Not sure which one.
Executive Orders it sounds like.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6791|Columbus, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.

Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control  feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want.  Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.
I'd assume being in Ireland would be pretty cool, other than the high taxes of course.

But seriously, when you're a small country, you can afford to be more isolationist.   Yet, we could stand to be less interventionist, despite our size.  I still don't understand how anyone could find invading Iraq to be of grave importance, but nevertheless, we'd be best off if we didn't invade anyone else for at least a decade or two.
I like Ireland, have a few mick friends, but isolationism and appeasement never produce good results.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want.  Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.
I'd assume being in Ireland would be pretty cool, other than the high taxes of course.

But seriously, when you're a small country, you can afford to be more isolationist.   Yet, we could stand to be less interventionist, despite our size.  I still don't understand how anyone could find invading Iraq to be of grave importance, but nevertheless, we'd be best off if we didn't invade anyone else for at least a decade or two.
I like Ireland, have a few mick friends, but isolationism and appeasement never produce good results.
Interventionism hasn't produced good results with Iraq, and it likely won't produce good results with Iran either.  There is a way that it could be done successfully, but it will be very difficult...
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6811

ghettoperson wrote:

9/11 sounded rather like a Tom Clancy novel. I'm beginning to think that he isn't actually a author, but a terrorist mastermind!
No, when he created a terrorist attack on the United States in the late 1990s it killed about 4,000 or so people from biological war fare. In his last book the "Teeth of the Tiger" he references the 9/11 attacks a few times.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6791|Columbus, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


I'd assume being in Ireland would be pretty cool, other than the high taxes of course.

But seriously, when you're a small country, you can afford to be more isolationist.   Yet, we could stand to be less interventionist, despite our size.  I still don't understand how anyone could find invading Iraq to be of grave importance, but nevertheless, we'd be best off if we didn't invade anyone else for at least a decade or two.
I like Ireland, have a few mick friends, but isolationism and appeasement never produce good results.
Interventionism hasn't produced good results with Iraq, and it likely won't produce good results with Iran either.  There is a way that it could be done successfully, but it will be very difficult...
Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then.  Only time will tell if what you say is correct.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


I like Ireland, have a few mick friends, but isolationism and appeasement never produce good results.
Interventionism hasn't produced good results with Iraq, and it likely won't produce good results with Iran either.  There is a way that it could be done successfully, but it will be very difficult...
Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then.  Only time will tell if what you say is correct.
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries.  We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate.  That's better than what's going on right now...
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina
US won't attack Iran.  They will send the ships there only to show who has the biggest cock.  Even GWB isn't that fool to invade Iran.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6791|Columbus, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Interventionism hasn't produced good results with Iraq, and it likely won't produce good results with Iran either.  There is a way that it could be done successfully, but it will be very difficult...
Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then.  Only time will tell if what you say is correct.
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries.  We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate.  That's better than what's going on right now...
No, what if we (by we I mean the world) just let him invade Kuwait?  Then who knows right?  I am not trying to play the "what if" game, just trying to show that whether you invade or sit back, something bad and nothing good will happen.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

usmarine2007 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then.  Only time will tell if what you say is correct.
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries.  We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate.  That's better than what's going on right now...
No, what if we (by we I mean the world) just let him invade Kuwait?  Then who knows right?  I am not trying to play the "what if" game, just trying to show that whether you invade or sit back, something bad and nothing good will happen.
You can't invade a country because you think without proof it could invade another one.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then.  Only time will tell if what you say is correct.
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries.  We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate.  That's better than what's going on right now...
No, what if we (by we I mean the world) just let him invade Kuwait?  Then who knows right?  I am not trying to play the "what if" game, just trying to show that whether you invade or sit back, something bad and nothing good will happen.
Well, it's a difference in principle...

I'm totally in favor of fighting countries that invade others.  However, we successfully pushed Saddam's forces back into his own country after the first war, which should have been enough.  We didn't need to remove him if we could keep him from invading anyone else.  That goes for any leader.

I saw Hitler very differently, because he was powerful enough to crush all of continental Europe.  Saddam wasn't even comparable in power.  He had definitely weakened after we kicked his ass the first time.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6791|Columbus, Ohio

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries.  We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate.  That's better than what's going on right now...
No, what if we (by we I mean the world) just let him invade Kuwait?  Then who knows right?  I am not trying to play the "what if" game, just trying to show that whether you invade or sit back, something bad and nothing good will happen.
You can't invade a country because you think without proof it could invade another one.
Define proof?  Look, if you want the criteria to be just sit back and wait, then that is fine.  I do not know the right answer, nor do you.  I sit in America with pretty much no fear of being invaded.  But put yourself in the shoes of Israel, Kuwait, or some other hot spot and you may think differently.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7021|Seattle

sergeriver wrote:

You can't invade a country because you think without proof it could invade another one.
And that's the "reactive" BS. We have to have our hands tied behind our backs instead of being pro-active like Bush is/was trying to do. Kill them before they kill us. I agree with that, but my plans would include civillians. Why let them keep breeding hatred for us after we kill all their brothers and fathers. Look where that's gotten us. We try to save the civillians and it turns into our military being used like policemen. Our guys are just sitting ducks over there. Fuckin pisses me off.

Last edited by King_County_Downy (2006-12-19 16:47:19)

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King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7021|Seattle

Turquoise wrote:

I saw Hitler very differently, because he was powerful enough to crush all of continental Europe.  Saddam wasn't even comparable in power.  He had definitely weakened after we kicked his ass the first time.
Iraq had the 5th largest military in the world.
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