I hate to be a party-pooper, but so does the US, from time to time.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Because Iran's president is openly proclaiming the annihilation of Israel and Iran supports terrorism.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Why do we (the US and its European allies) feel the need to stop them from building a legitimate energy infrastructure? I still don't get how the US and other nuclear powers feel the need to tell the world who can have nuclear power and who can't.Kmarion wrote:
The United States and its European allies are seeking sanctions against Iran because of its refusal to stop uranium enrichment, a technology that can be used to produce nuclear fuel for civilian purposes or fuel for a nuclear bomb.
They won't attack him and we aren't his ancestors, though he may have some relatives.King_County_Downy wrote:
Wow. don't ask us for help when they attack you, kay?JahManRed wrote:
I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.
Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
And you also forget "we" are your ancestors and relatives.
*cough*descendants*cough*King_County_Downy wrote:
And you also forget "we" are your ancestors and relatives.
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Hmm...I'm pretty sure he is "an infidel, aligned with America and Israel" through skin color and political prowess.jonsimon wrote:
They won't attack him and we aren't his ancestors, though he may have some relatives.
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That's what I meant. Leave me alone, I'm high roflunnamednewbie13 wrote:
*cough*descendants*cough*King_County_Downy wrote:
And you also forget "we" are your ancestors and relatives.
damn it I wish I could speak teh Engrish better!
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
I have faith (probably more like "hope") in my country and it's army in defending itself domestically. But bullying and attacking other nations? Why the need to have faith in something so despicable. Further, we lost to a bunch of home made bomb makers. Oh wait, you're one of the guys that thinks we're "winning." lolDBBrinson1 wrote:
You sure have faith in your country and its army. Osama's campaign? What is he doing now? Laughing? I doubt it. I think he's either dead or hiding under some rock. When was the last time he's done anything major to the US? How many other false warnings had he issued since 911?
Carnage in Iraq? ITS A FRIGGIN WAR. What the hell do you think happens in war zones? Go watch some more CNN. You have ignored the stories of schools built, women voting and children being vaccinated against diseases. I can't fathom how you don't support removing an evil dictator. You bitch about a few bad apples in the military teasing kids with water bottles. You bitch about tankers punishing looters. When did you bitch about Saddam raping and pillaging his own country? Where was your loud mouth then?
Your blind hatred of the US military and the President are astounding. All that smog on the left coast has gotten to your brain.
WAR? Did Iraq declare war on us? I think you mean to say "INVASION OF A SOVEREIGN NATION WITHOUT PROVOCATION." Did their leader get captured and tried in court? But why the continual bloodshed? Schools being built? Women voting and children being vaccinated? Yeah, that was cool for 20 minutes until the schools were destroyed, women lynched for not wearing head scarves, children dying from car bombs (but hey, they aren't getting polio, right?). Here is what you can do with your "what about the schools.." bs But she's from CNN so she must be lying, eh?
Osama dead or hiding under a rock? Ok cowboy, go ahead and think how you want. Chances are he's sitting among friends in someones home in pakistan right now watching the news, working with his people who are easily replacing the ones lost by the dozens. You really have to get out of that bubble dude..it's shrinking rapidly.
Common error.King_County_Downy wrote:
That's what I meant. Leave me alone, I'm high roflunnamednewbie13 wrote:
*cough*descendants*cough*King_County_Downy wrote:
And you also forget "we" are your ancestors and relatives.
damn it I wish I could speak teh Engrish better!
If we do attack Iran, it will need to be very carefully executed.... I'll explain more in a separate thread....
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want. Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.JahManRed wrote:
I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.
Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
I'd assume being in Ireland would be pretty cool, other than the high taxes of course.usmarine2007 wrote:
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want. Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.JahManRed wrote:
I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.
Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
But seriously, when you're a small country, you can afford to be more isolationist. Yet, we could stand to be less interventionist, despite our size. I still don't understand how anyone could find invading Iraq to be of grave importance, but nevertheless, we'd be best off if we didn't invade anyone else for at least a decade or two.
LMFAO.If the U.S.A attack Iran i won't believe my fucking eyes. It would be the stupidest thing they could do I mean you guys are stretched so thin can't even afford to send in reinforcements to Iraq. Give me a fucking break.
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You don't eat potatoes and drink beer?usmarine2007 wrote:
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want. Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.JahManRed wrote:
I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.
Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
Executive Orders it sounds like.Stingray24 wrote:
"The idea of building up of U.S. Navy forces has been discussed over some time and it's unclear when a decision will be made, the defense official said.
The aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower is already in the region. It left the United States in late September with four other Norfolk-based ships and submarines carrying 6,500 sailors.
The flotilla headed to the Mediterranean Sea and eventually went to relieve the Norfolk-based aircraft carrier USS Enterprise strike group, which was in the region supporting operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Also, the U.S. in late October led a naval training exercise aimed at blocking smuggling of nuclear weapons in the Persian Gulf.
The six-nation maneuvers off the coast of Iran were the first of their kind since North Korea's Oct. 9 nuclear test and U.N. sanctions that called on the international community to conduct searches at sea to ensure the reclusive communist nation is not secretly expanding its nuclear program.
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That sounds like a Tom Clancy novel I read. Not sure which one.
I like Ireland, have a few mick friends, but isolationism and appeasement never produce good results.Turquoise wrote:
I'd assume being in Ireland would be pretty cool, other than the high taxes of course.usmarine2007 wrote:
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want. Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.JahManRed wrote:
I guess if this war/invasion kicks off, you guys can substitute the porn you get off on nightly for more "shock and awe" on your TV's, after all, Iraqi has been a while and you need your fix of more horror and human suffering, so what if 90% of the deaths will be Innocent civilians, you have all this hardware and so so want to use it. Shit Israel has been showing off all the toys you send her lately. Kinda out shining you guys.
Sit on your asses and drool over the military hardware while you poke yourselves with your remote control feeling an over whelming sense of importance and power, I bet its almost sexual, because you, your country is blowing shit out of some 'other Arab savages'.
But seriously, when you're a small country, you can afford to be more isolationist. Yet, we could stand to be less interventionist, despite our size. I still don't understand how anyone could find invading Iraq to be of grave importance, but nevertheless, we'd be best off if we didn't invade anyone else for at least a decade or two.
Interventionism hasn't produced good results with Iraq, and it likely won't produce good results with Iran either. There is a way that it could be done successfully, but it will be very difficult...usmarine2007 wrote:
I like Ireland, have a few mick friends, but isolationism and appeasement never produce good results.Turquoise wrote:
I'd assume being in Ireland would be pretty cool, other than the high taxes of course.usmarine2007 wrote:
Let's all be like Ireland...... eat potatoes, drink beer, and let anyone do whatever they want. Worked with Hitler, why can't it work now.
But seriously, when you're a small country, you can afford to be more isolationist. Yet, we could stand to be less interventionist, despite our size. I still don't understand how anyone could find invading Iraq to be of grave importance, but nevertheless, we'd be best off if we didn't invade anyone else for at least a decade or two.
No, when he created a terrorist attack on the United States in the late 1990s it killed about 4,000 or so people from biological war fare. In his last book the "Teeth of the Tiger" he references the 9/11 attacks a few times.ghettoperson wrote:
9/11 sounded rather like a Tom Clancy novel. I'm beginning to think that he isn't actually a author, but a terrorist mastermind!
Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then. Only time will tell if what you say is correct.Turquoise wrote:
Interventionism hasn't produced good results with Iraq, and it likely won't produce good results with Iran either. There is a way that it could be done successfully, but it will be very difficult...usmarine2007 wrote:
I like Ireland, have a few mick friends, but isolationism and appeasement never produce good results.Turquoise wrote:
I'd assume being in Ireland would be pretty cool, other than the high taxes of course.
But seriously, when you're a small country, you can afford to be more isolationist. Yet, we could stand to be less interventionist, despite our size. I still don't understand how anyone could find invading Iraq to be of grave importance, but nevertheless, we'd be best off if we didn't invade anyone else for at least a decade or two.
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries. We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate. That's better than what's going on right now...usmarine2007 wrote:
Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then. Only time will tell if what you say is correct.Turquoise wrote:
Interventionism hasn't produced good results with Iraq, and it likely won't produce good results with Iran either. There is a way that it could be done successfully, but it will be very difficult...usmarine2007 wrote:
I like Ireland, have a few mick friends, but isolationism and appeasement never produce good results.
US won't attack Iran. They will send the ships there only to show who has the biggest cock. Even GWB isn't that fool to invade Iran.
No, what if we (by we I mean the world) just let him invade Kuwait? Then who knows right? I am not trying to play the "what if" game, just trying to show that whether you invade or sit back, something bad and nothing good will happen.Turquoise wrote:
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries. We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate. That's better than what's going on right now...usmarine2007 wrote:
Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then. Only time will tell if what you say is correct.Turquoise wrote:
Interventionism hasn't produced good results with Iraq, and it likely won't produce good results with Iran either. There is a way that it could be done successfully, but it will be very difficult...
You can't invade a country because you think without proof it could invade another one.usmarine2007 wrote:
No, what if we (by we I mean the world) just let him invade Kuwait? Then who knows right? I am not trying to play the "what if" game, just trying to show that whether you invade or sit back, something bad and nothing good will happen.Turquoise wrote:
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries. We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate. That's better than what's going on right now...usmarine2007 wrote:
Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then. Only time will tell if what you say is correct.
Well, it's a difference in principle...usmarine2007 wrote:
No, what if we (by we I mean the world) just let him invade Kuwait? Then who knows right? I am not trying to play the "what if" game, just trying to show that whether you invade or sit back, something bad and nothing good will happen.Turquoise wrote:
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries. We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate. That's better than what's going on right now...usmarine2007 wrote:
Well, one could say the world would be better if we let Germany do whatever they wanted in the '40's then. Only time will tell if what you say is correct.
I'm totally in favor of fighting countries that invade others. However, we successfully pushed Saddam's forces back into his own country after the first war, which should have been enough. We didn't need to remove him if we could keep him from invading anyone else. That goes for any leader.
I saw Hitler very differently, because he was powerful enough to crush all of continental Europe. Saddam wasn't even comparable in power. He had definitely weakened after we kicked his ass the first time.
Define proof? Look, if you want the criteria to be just sit back and wait, then that is fine. I do not know the right answer, nor do you. I sit in America with pretty much no fear of being invaded. But put yourself in the shoes of Israel, Kuwait, or some other hot spot and you may think differently.sergeriver wrote:
You can't invade a country because you think without proof it could invade another one.usmarine2007 wrote:
No, what if we (by we I mean the world) just let him invade Kuwait? Then who knows right? I am not trying to play the "what if" game, just trying to show that whether you invade or sit back, something bad and nothing good will happen.Turquoise wrote:
The difference with Germany is that Hitler was actually invading other countries. We kicked Saddam's ass once already and had him in a permanent stalemate. That's better than what's going on right now...
And that's the "reactive" BS. We have to have our hands tied behind our backs instead of being pro-active like Bush is/was trying to do. Kill them before they kill us. I agree with that, but my plans would include civillians. Why let them keep breeding hatred for us after we kill all their brothers and fathers. Look where that's gotten us. We try to save the civillians and it turns into our military being used like policemen. Our guys are just sitting ducks over there. Fuckin pisses me off.sergeriver wrote:
You can't invade a country because you think without proof it could invade another one.
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Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Iraq had the 5th largest military in the world.Turquoise wrote:
I saw Hitler very differently, because he was powerful enough to crush all of continental Europe. Saddam wasn't even comparable in power. He had definitely weakened after we kicked his ass the first time.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it