Bush signs US-India nuclear bill, Iran Next?

2006-12-18 15:06:48

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JahManRed: wank; +646|7052|IRELAND

"President George W Bush has signed into law a historic agreement allowing the United States to export civilian nuclear fuel to India."

President Bush described the new law as an important achievement for the whole world.

"The bill will help keep America safe by paving the way for India to join the global effort to stop the spread of nuclear weapons," he said.
"After 30 years outside the system, India will now operate its civilian nuclear energy programme under internationally-accepted guidelines and the world is going to be safer as a result."

"Correspondents say that India sees the deal as a tacit acceptance of its emergence as a global nuclear power.
But some say that by making an exception for India, the US will find it difficult to rein in the nuclear ambitions of North Korea and Iran. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6189467.stm

Why is the USA so willing to give away nuclear technology and fuel to a former Soviet aligned state, with a Cast system, human rights abuses by the military and corruption rife in its government? Yet so against Iran developing it's own? Should North Korea be delt with and brought to the table also?
Should Iran be brought to in to the nuclear family now that India is sucking at the tit?

BUSH wrote:
"India will now operate its civilian nuclear energy programme under internationally-accepted guidelines and the world is going to be safer as a result." ?

Should we be hear this soon??

BUSH wrote:
"Iran will now operate its civilian nuclear energy programme under internationally-accepted guidelines and the world is going to be safer as a result." ?

BUSH wrote:
"North Korea will now operate its civilian nuclear energy programme under internationally-accepted guidelines and the world is going to be safer as a result." ?

thoughts..........

Edit: To include NK.

Last edited by JahManRed (2006-12-18 15:13:33)

2006-12-18 15:08:51

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Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7006|SE London

JahManRed wrote:
Why is the USA so willing to give away nuclear technology and fuel to a former Soviet aligned state, with a Cast system, human rights abuses by the military and corruption rife in its government? Yet so against Iran developing it's own.

Because India already have nuclear weapons?

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-12-18 15:09:46)

2006-12-18 15:09:06

#3

UON: Junglist Massive; +223|7077

And will the deal include buring a significant amount of US nuclear waste under the Himalayas?

2006-12-18 15:12:05

#4

JahManRed: wank; +646|7052|IRELAND

Bertster7 wrote:
JahManRed wrote:
Why is the USA so willing to give away nuclear technology and fuel to a former Soviet aligned state, with a Cast system, human rights abuses by the military and corruption rife in its government? Yet so against Iran developing it's own.
Because India already have nuclear weapons?

Ok then...Ill edit it to include NK in the question.

2006-12-18 15:17:10

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Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7006|SE London

JahManRed wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
JahManRed wrote:
Why is the USA so willing to give away nuclear technology and fuel to a former Soviet aligned state, with a Cast system, human rights abuses by the military and corruption rife in its government? Yet so against Iran developing it's own.
Because India already have nuclear weapons?
Ok then...Ill edit it to include NK in the question.

Because India aren't in any way hostile to the US?

2006-12-18 15:19:16

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JahManRed: wank; +646|7052|IRELAND

Has Iran ever threatened the US?

2006-12-18 15:21:27

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Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|7070

JahManRed wrote:
Has Iran ever threatened the US?

Yes.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir … id=1699643

2006-12-18 15:28:46

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usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6791|Columbus, Ohio

JahManRed wrote:
Has Iran ever threatened the US?

Wow....

Are you.....................wow.

2006-12-18 15:37:35

#9

JahManRed: wank; +646|7052|IRELAND

That threat was a counter threat. Wasn't "military might" mentioned by President Bush? Axis off Evil is a big name call too in anyone's book.
India hasn't signed the Nuclear Proliferation pact. so the US shouldn't be sending them nuclear technology & fuel period.

2006-12-18 16:35:15

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7025|132 and Bush

Bertster7 wrote:
JahManRed wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Because India already have nuclear weapons?
Ok then...Ill edit it to include NK in the question.
Because India aren't in any way hostile to the US?

India does not have threaten the way NK does. Kim Jong-il has a history of creating a crisis to get what he wants.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-12-18 16:35:29)

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-12-18 16:38:27

#11

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|7070

Kmarion wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
JahManRed wrote:

Ok then...Ill edit it to include NK in the question.
Because India aren't in any way hostile to the US?
India does not have threaten the way NK does. Kim Jong-il has a history of creating a crisis to get what he wants.

Are you saying that killer elephants named after Osama bin Laden aren't a threat?

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=57350

2006-12-18 16:48:59

#12

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|7021|Seattle

The key is that India will accept inspectors into their country to ensure everything is going where it should, etc. Hans Brix will be there!

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2006-12-18 16:56:53

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mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7188|d

Talk about digging holes.

2006-12-18 16:58:06

#14

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|7021|Seattle

mafia996630 wrote:
Talk about digging holes.

I think it's good to get some of them on our side.

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2006-12-19 02:23:28

#15

JahManRed: wank; +646|7052|IRELAND

King_County_Downy wrote:
The key is that India will accept inspectors into their country to ensure everything is going where it should, etc. Hans Brix will be there!

lol@sig

Hans Brix, when did we start listening to him?

The Independent:
"Mr Blix, speaking to The Independent, said the Attorney General's legal advice to the Government on the eve of war, giving cover for military action by the US and Britain, had no lawful justification. He said it would have required a second United Nations resolution explicitly authorizing the use of force for the invasion of Iraq last March to have been legal."

We will probably listen to him when their is money to be made and he is going with the flow..............

2006-12-19 18:09:41

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6829|North Carolina

To be honest, I support this move. I think siding with India on the nuke issue is looking ahead. We may actually find ourselves attacking Pakistan one day. Iran doesn't seem like a threat to me, but Pakistan really does, and we'll need India to help us with that one.

2006-12-20 02:17:56

#17

JahManRed: wank; +646|7052|IRELAND

Turquoise wrote:
To be honest, I support this move. I think siding with India on the nuke issue is looking ahead. We may actually find ourselves attacking Pakistan one day. Iran doesn't seem like a threat to me, but Pakistan really does, and we'll need India to help us with that one.

Agreed, but Pakistan is the coalitions best and most strategic Allie in the current war of terror. I would say that your assumption is correct though. It begs the question. What will be the backlash from a Pakistan government who have been ostracized by their people over the support for the war be? The Pakistani government was obviously trying to get its hands on a few political cards by going against its peoples wishes by supporting the war. Pakistan nearly erupted into civil war at the time. How will Pakistan react when, not only are all her cards taken away, she is pulled away from the card game all together?

2006-12-20 03:42:58

#18

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,072|7196|PNW

JahManRed wrote:
Why is the USA so willing to give away nuclear technology and fuel to a former Soviet aligned state, with a Cast system, human rights abuses by the military and corruption rife in its government?

India exists as a subsidiary entity to Microsoft Corp.

2006-12-20 17:43:09

#19

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6829|North Carolina

JahManRed wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
To be honest, I support this move. I think siding with India on the nuke issue is looking ahead. We may actually find ourselves attacking Pakistan one day. Iran doesn't seem like a threat to me, but Pakistan really does, and we'll need India to help us with that one.
Agreed, but Pakistan is the coalitions best and most strategic Allie in the current war of terror. I would say that your assumption is correct though. It begs the question. What will be the backlash from a Pakistan government who have been ostracized by their people over the support for the war be? The Pakistani government was obviously trying to get its hands on a few political cards by going against its peoples wishes by supporting the war. Pakistan nearly erupted into civil war at the time. How will Pakistan react when, not only are all her cards taken away, she is pulled away from the card game all together?

We could help Musharraf annihilate the extremists in his country, but the collateral damage involved would likely lessen our moral image even further.

India would love us for it though.

2006-12-20 17:45:20

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6829|North Carolina

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
JahManRed wrote:
Why is the USA so willing to give away nuclear technology and fuel to a former Soviet aligned state, with a Cast system, human rights abuses by the military and corruption rife in its government?
India exists as a subsidiary entity to Microsoft Corp.

Well, actually, it is consistent with our other allies....

Pakistan - ally in War on Terror despite being a harborer of terror itself

China - most favored trade nation despite human rights abuses far beyond even India

There are a few others, but you get the idea. Still, I think India is important as an ally.

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