Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7025|132 and Bush

Some of you may already know how I feel about the 700 mile fence going up on the Mexican order of the US. I don't feel it's the right solution and that the politicians have just folded into submission upon the request of a small group. I of course do understand the illegal immigration problem needs a solution but this is not it.

The reason I made this post is not to state the obvious but to share this. I  made a couple jokes about "the fence". One of them was, "If we send all the illegal Mexicans back who will build the fence". Here is a situation in which life imitates comedy.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061214/lath030.html?.v=88
Golden State fence is responsible for building part of the fence along the border.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Big McLargehuge
Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
+259|7027|Philadelphia, PA

Kmarion wrote:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061214/lath030.html?.v=88
Golden State fence is responsible for building part of the fence along the border.
The irony is delicious.

Last edited by Big McLargehuge (2006-12-16 22:22:46)

Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7199|Noizyland

"Those who don't learn from History are condemmed to repeat it."

Great Wall of China - "Fucking Mogors attackeng my shitty wawr!"
The Maginot Line - Bypassed
The Berlin Wall - pissed off a shit-load of already pissed off Germans.

Big walls don't work.
[Blinking eyes thing]
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dubbs
Member
+105|7056|Lexington, KY

Kmarion wrote:

Some of you may already know how I feel about the 700 mile fence going up on the Mexican order of the US. I don't feel it's the right solution and that the politicians have just folded into submission upon the request of a small group. I of course do understand the illegal immigration problem needs a solution but this is not it.

The reason I made this post is not to state the obvious but to share this. I  made a couple jokes about "the fence". One of them was, "If we send all the illegal Mexicans back who will build the fence". Here is a situation in which life imitates comedy.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061214/lath030.html?.v=88
Golden State fence is responsible for building part of the fence along the border.
Now wonder they are getting over.  They are also building the fences also.  I can see the conversation now:

Hey Pedro, lets keep a hole her, so that Uncle Sachez can get through easier.
Okay Tio.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6979
The US could take a leaf out of Israel's book and build the wall several kilometres inside Mexico's border, thereby annexing more land for the USA!! Hooray for Israeli ideas!

https://www.palestinemonitor.org/maps/segregation_wall_west_bank.jpg

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-12-17 03:08:40)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7075|USA

CameronPoe wrote:

The US could take a leaf out of Israel's book and build the wall several kilometres inside Mexico's border, thereby annexing more land for the USA!! Hooray for Israeli ideas!

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/maps/se … t_bank.jpg
The next time Mexico starts a war with us and lobs missles at us from those positions, we might just fuckin' do that Cam. JUST like Israel.....Play nice with your toys or they will be taken from you.

I think what I love about Israel is, they don't play any of the political correctness bullshit games, and you can't stand it.

Last edited by lowing (2006-12-17 03:49:03)

mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7145|Sydney, Australia
Look, the 'Rabbit Proof Fence' didn't work in Australia, and it was pretty big. This big fence won't work for them either.


Mcminty
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7075|USA

mcminty wrote:

Look, the 'Rabbit Proof Fence' didn't work in Australia, and it was pretty big. This big fence won't work for them either.


Mcminty
It sure as hell will if the damn thing is ACTUALLY patrolled by soldiers with authorization to shoot.
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6955|Sydney, in 1978

lowing wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Look, the 'Rabbit Proof Fence' didn't work in Australia, and it was pretty big. This big fence won't work for them either.


Mcminty
It sure as hell will if the damn thing is ACTUALLY patrolled by soldiers with authorization to shoot.
ture but then look at the berlin wall, if people want to get in they will find a way to get in
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7140

Mongoose wrote:

lowing wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Look, the 'Rabbit Proof Fence' didn't work in Australia, and it was pretty big. This big fence won't work for them either.


Mcminty
It sure as hell will if the damn thing is ACTUALLY patrolled by soldiers with authorization to shoot.
ture but then look at the berlin wall, if people want to get in they will find a way to get in
Helicopter support ftw.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|7075|USA

Mongoose wrote:

lowing wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Look, the 'Rabbit Proof Fence' didn't work in Australia, and it was pretty big. This big fence won't work for them either.


Mcminty
It sure as hell will if the damn thing is ACTUALLY patrolled by soldiers with authorization to shoot.
ture but then look at the berlin wall, if people want to get in they will find a way to get in
Maybe, but at least the flood gate will be closed
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6979

lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

The US could take a leaf out of Israel's book and build the wall several kilometres inside Mexico's border, thereby annexing more land for the USA!! Hooray for Israeli ideas!

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/maps/se … t_bank.jpg
The next time Mexico starts a war with us and lobs missles at us from those positions, we might just fuckin' do that Cam. JUST like Israel.....Play nice with your toys or they will be taken from you.

I think what I love about Israel is, they don't play any of the political correctness bullshit games, and you can't stand it.
Regimes that don't play politically correct generally don't stand the test of time: like Nazi Germany or Apartheid South Africa for instance. That's the nice thing about the wonderful cycle of life - eventually everybody gets brought to justice.

Remember one of Moses' ten commandments: 'Thou shalt not steal'.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-12-17 05:30:27)

<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|7126|New York

Ty wrote:

"Those who don't learn from History are condemmed to repeat it."

Great Wall of China - "Fucking Mogors attackeng my shitty wawr!"
The Maginot Line - Bypassed
The Berlin Wall - pissed off a shit-load of already pissed off Germans.

Big walls don't work.
Ok, i can see the part about splitting a country like germany, But to have some sort of diversion between our country and another is bad why? I mean european borders are alot more secure than ours will ever be if we dont do something, anything.  I think the damn fence should extend across the whole dang border. The amount of money we give that country and they STILL cant pull themselves up, They need to learn basic economics rather than running into our country or even haveing the nerve to tell us how to run ours.
PussCat
Member
+2|6869

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Ty wrote:

"Those who don't learn from History are condemmed to repeat it."

Great Wall of China - "Fucking Mogors attackeng my shitty wawr!"
The Maginot Line - Bypassed
The Berlin Wall - pissed off a shit-load of already pissed off Germans.

Big walls don't work.
Ok, i can see the part about splitting a country like germany, But to have some sort of diversion between our country and another is bad why? I mean european borders are alot more secure than ours will ever be if we dont do something, anything.  I think the damn fence should extend across the whole dang border. The amount of money we give that country and they STILL cant pull themselves up, They need to learn basic economics rather than running into our country or even haveing the nerve to tell us how to run ours.
Are you kidding?  Most european borders are nothing but sea, guarded by nobody.  And now we're letting all and sundry join the flipping EU - people like Poland, Czech Republic, soon even Turkey - so they don't have to come in as illegals anymore.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7075|USA

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

The US could take a leaf out of Israel's book and build the wall several kilometres inside Mexico's border, thereby annexing more land for the USA!! Hooray for Israeli ideas!

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/maps/se … t_bank.jpg
The next time Mexico starts a war with us and lobs missles at us from those positions, we might just fuckin' do that Cam. JUST like Israel.....Play nice with your toys or they will be taken from you.

I think what I love about Israel is, they don't play any of the political correctness bullshit games, and you can't stand it.
Regimes that don't play politically correct generally don't stand the test of time: like Nazi Germany or Apartheid South Africa for instance. That's the nice thing about the wonderful cycle of life - eventually everybody gets brought to justice.

Remember one of Moses' ten commandments: 'Thou shalt not steal'.
NO need or reason t oplay PC games, I.E. appease, those that seek to destroy you. Maybe the leason here is, don't start wars you can't win and you won't loose what you gambled with.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6953|Global Command
Mexico has entire government agency set up to assist the people of mexicos border jumping. They hand out booklets and advise where water caches are.

The U.S. would be perfectly just to declare these actions acts of war. I had been working on a thread about this, gg Kmarion, beating me to it.;;


50000 Troops Sought @ Border.



http://washingtontimes.com/national/200 … -4559r.htm




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16169899/ 
Swift meat packing plant. Bus loads of illegal aliens are rounded up in immigration raids.
This time there was a LE detractor; 
Grand Island Police Chief Steve Lamken said he refused to let his officers take part in the raid.

"When this is all over, we're still here taking care of our community and if I have a significant part of my population that's fearful and won't call us, then that's not good for our community," he said.
This may come as suprise, but I can why see he wouldn't. The pattern unfolding is disturbing;
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metr … olden.html  Executives of United Fence may face prison time for the hiring of illegal aliens.


Now before you start post " Ya, fuck 'em " think about it.
     

         After making their way through the desert, the illegal aliens dump their garbage before getting on waiting vehicles that will take them deeper into America. This is one of dozens of dumps sites discovered last year in the Southwest.

https://i16.tinypic.com/2w5rmuh.jpg Litterbugs

Last edited by ATG (2006-12-17 08:37:45)

Lisik
Member
+74|6925|Israel
In Israel it works 110%. We got 2-3 suicide bombers peer week... now we got 0 peer year.
|=-sL-=|.Cujucuyo.
Member
+26|6807|California
Why not put signs that say "Peligro: Campo de Minas Antipersonales" ("Danger Anti-Personal Mines") all over the border? They'll think twice on trying to cross it (no mines though), let's just hope they can read, if not put some images.

Last edited by |=-sL-=|.Cujucuyo. (2006-12-17 08:55:19)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6953|Global Command
The ACLU would sue for inhuman treatment; the signs would scare them and cause discomfort.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina

Ty wrote:

"Those who don't learn from History are condemmed to repeat it."

Great Wall of China - "Fucking Mogors attackeng my shitty wawr!"
The Maginot Line - Bypassed
The Berlin Wall - pissed off a shit-load of already pissed off Germans.

Big walls don't work.
Pretty much...  and...  They're expensive as hell.  Any conservative who supports the construction of a wall along the entire Mexican border is clearly not in favor of small government.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6829|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

Mexico has entire government agency set up to assist the people of mexicos border jumping. They hand out booklets and advise where water caches are.

The U.S. would be perfectly just to declare these actions acts of war. I had been working on a thread about this, gg Kmarion, beating me to it.;;


50000 Troops Sought @ Border.



http://washingtontimes.com/national/200 … -4559r.htm




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16169899/ 
Swift meat packing plant. Bus loads of illegal aliens are rounded up in immigration raids.
This time there was a LE detractor; 
Grand Island Police Chief Steve Lamken said he refused to let his officers take part in the raid.

"When this is all over, we're still here taking care of our community and if I have a significant part of my population that's fearful and won't call us, then that's not good for our community," he said.
This may come as suprise, but I can why see he wouldn't. The pattern unfolding is disturbing;
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metr … olden.html  Executives of United Fence may face prison time for the hiring of illegal aliens.


Now before you start post " Ya, fuck 'em " think about it.
     

         After making their way through the desert, the illegal aliens dump their garbage before getting on waiting vehicles that will take them deeper into America. This is one of dozens of dumps sites discovered last year in the Southwest.

http://i16.tinypic.com/2w5rmuh.jpg Litterbugs
Good points.  I will say this...  If the Mexican government is collaborating in this, we should remove them from NAFTA.  That will teach them a lesson.

The problem is that multi-national corporations with interests between America and Mexico don't really care what this illegal immigration is doing to our infrastructure.  We keep moving towards a deceptive form of free trade that mostly just benefits rich companies with assets in Mexico, but do not help the average American citizen or even the average Mexican citizen.

If NAFTA had really worked the way it was promoted to work, so many Mexicans wouldn't be coming here for work.  The Mexican economy would have improved significantly enough that they would be able to find jobs there.

I think if we revoked NAFTA, slapped tariffs on Mexican goods, and perfected a guest worker system, then most of the current problems would be solved.  We could increase border patrols, but we could also prosecute more employers for hiring illegals.  In addition to this, border patrols should have the license to kill drug dealers and MS-13 members.

If we pulled out of Iraq, we could put more soldiers on the border, and arm them well.

All of this could be accomplished in a much more efficient manner than building a wall.

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