But i've only flown them in BF1 & 2...sadly. But besides the countless hours about them i've watched on the military channel i think its a tie between the Apache and the Cobra. I swear i almost joined the frackin army just to fly one...but then i remember i should 'Never Again Volunteer Yourself'...cause they would still find a reason to stick me back in that sub.
Poll
Best modern attack helicopter?
| AH-64D Apache (US, UK, Israel, Japan, etc.) | 61% | 61% - 94 | ||||
| Eurocopter Tiger (Germany, France, Spain, Australia) | 15% | 15% - 24 | ||||
| Mi-28 Havoc (Russia) | 3% | 3% - 6 | ||||
| Mi-24 Hind (Russia, North Korea, Iran, India, etc.) | 0% | 0% - 1 | ||||
| AH-1 Cobra (US, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Iran, etc.) | 11% | 11% - 17 | ||||
| A129 Mangusta (Italy) | 0% | 0% - 1 | ||||
| Kamov Ka-50 (Russia) | 4% | 4% - 7 | ||||
| AH-2 Rooivalk (South Africa) | 1% | 1% - 3 | ||||
| Total: 153 | ||||||
Whats the point in buying all of it if it's only going to get destroyed in an instant anyway. You're better off just not having a military at all. If you're going to do it, do it properly. Not half arsed. It's just a waste of human life.Bertster7 wrote:
Because Russian 'shit' is cheap, high quality and probably the best value military tech available. Developing your own weapons costs loads of money.Mekstizzle wrote:
why the hell do so many countries buy russian shit.
The KA-52 has outperformed the Apache in many tests. I doubt it's as good overall, but I bet it's much cheaper.
The KA-50 is not so good though.
HIND is very worthy and practical - an attack chopper/transport = useful. After seeing one at a major airshow I'm just amazed at the HIND.Mekstizzle wrote:
I absoloutley hate the HIND. It may be good in real life, actulaly..it isnt... but it just has always sucked hard in every game and mod ever in history. It just doesn't make sense either. I hope all countries who were stupid enough to buy one immideatly strip it of its weapons and recycle the metal into something more useful like a bus. Then give the weapons to something more worthy and practical.
AH-64D Apache is probably the best there.
Go get some brain . Speaking of Iraq , what had been destroyed ? 30 year old tanks ? With skilless crews ? Even if I wont count that 99.9% of them were lost because of air attacks . How the fuck can you judge whos weapons are shit and whos are the best ? Noone can , you , me , others here dont know real characteristics\specs , because both of our goverments will do all to show out their tax payers that the stuff they prepay for their military is the best . And cost of russian weapons ... it's simply , in the times of USSR the labour of scientists , engineers m workers and so on had very low price ( now it is higher , but still not as good as in US or EU ) , whyle western countryes payed them a lot . Payment for labour & development is included into the price of final product . Questions ?Mekstizzle wrote:
Whats the point in buying all of it if it's only going to get destroyed in an instant anyway. You're better off just not having a military at all. If you're going to do it, do it properly. Not half arsed. It's just a waste of human life.
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i believe i canLongbow wrote:
Go get some brain . Speaking of Iraq , what had been destroyed ? 30 year old tanks ? With skilless crews ? Even if I wont count that 99.9% of them were lost because of air attacks . How the fuck can you judge whos weapons are shit and whos are the best ? Noone can , you , me , others here dont know real....Mekstizzle wrote:
Whats the point in buying all of it if it's only going to get destroyed in an instant anyway. You're better off just not having a military at all. If you're going to do it, do it properly. Not half arsed. It's just a waste of human life.
Guess he get's the rock, huh, Gunslinger.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
i believe i canLongbow wrote:
Go get some brain . Speaking of Iraq , what had been destroyed ? 30 year old tanks ? With skilless crews ? Even if I wont count that 99.9% of them were lost because of air attacks . How the fuck can you judge whos weapons are shit and whos are the best ? Noone can , you , me , others here dont know real....Mekstizzle wrote:
Whats the point in buying all of it if it's only going to get destroyed in an instant anyway. You're better off just not having a military at all. If you're going to do it, do it properly. Not half arsed. It's just a waste of human life.
Scrapped.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
The Comanche? The program was cancelled in favor of moving the funds to upgrade existing helicopters.MDFSpacePhantom wrote:
Don't the US have a new one I for got whats it called, but it's black?
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You served in infantry , yeah ? And now you think you're t3h ub3r specialist in all modern armanent ? Don't take me wrong , I may know less then you , but I won't make my opinion on what you are telling .GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
i believe i can
ding fries are done!!!Bertster7 wrote:
da, dada dada, dada dada, dada dada, da.......
Sorry just had to.
I liked Blue Thunder too.
Many tests. Like the Turkish design competition that the KA-50-2 came second in after the Cobra, beating the Apache and Eurocopter.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
God you are dumb. How can you say something like "many" tests and still say it's not as good overall.Bertster7 wrote:
Because Russian 'shit' is cheap, high quality and probably the best value military tech available. Developing your own weapons costs loads of money.Mekstizzle wrote:
why the hell do so many countries buy russian shit.
The KA-52 has outperformed the Apache in many tests. I doubt it's as good overall, but I bet it's much cheaper.
The KA-50 is not so good though.
Anyways, I don't know much about rl choppers, as I'm sure none of you do either, but the military channel voted the Apache number 1.
Yet on performance and general expert opinion the Apache seems to be top. Mostly down to it's extreme high tech targeting systems.
I know very little about choppers. I have studied turboprops (my lecturer stuck one in the back of an estate car and used it for drag racing, it was one of the student group projects (1800bhp)) in a course on gas turbine engines and I have done courses dealing with rockets and missile tech, but that doesn't help much. I go on what the experts say.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9V6J3aXXlFM& … mp;search=
Ka-50 rocks.
Ka-50 rocks.
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Cobra have you seen how hard it is to tv missle that bastard!!! Does the KA-50 having two rotor things make it more maneuverable and agile?
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The KA-52 has a much lower ceiling and rate of climb. Not a good thing to be lacking in combat.
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Yes . And it also doesn't have any problems with tail rotor . No tail rotor - no problems .wah1188 wrote:
Does the KA-50 having two rotor things make it more maneuverable and agile?
the tiger, only because: "The KA-50 is not fielded. Only a handful of prototypes exist, and it has not yet been approved for full-scale production."
edit: Dont really know or care btw. Just posted cause I wanna live.
edit: Dont really know or care btw. Just posted cause I wanna live.
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Too bad the Comanche didn't get to mass production.
Note that the Apache shown is the AH-64A, not the AH-64D.
We buy the US chopper designs then make 'em ourselves... of course we pimp them with decent engines. In fact, the Americans might be putting our engines into their Apaches at some point.Longbow wrote:
That Kamov has only one crewman , and the pilot is the most expencive part of every choper\jet . It also has extractor ( or whatever is is called in english , I dont remember the word )Mekstizzle wrote:
That Kamov just looks dumb.Why the hell brits are buying US shit and not making their own stuff ?Mekstizzle wrote:
why the hell do so many countries buy russian shit. They'd be better off making there own stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_W … from_AH-64
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Yay! Rolls Royce Engines!UON wrote:
We buy the US chopper designs then make 'em ourselves... of course we pimp them with decent engines. In fact, the Americans might be putting our engines into their Apaches at some point.Longbow wrote:
That Kamov has only one crewman , and the pilot is the most expencive part of every choper\jet . It also has extractor ( or whatever is is called in english , I dont remember the word )Mekstizzle wrote:
That Kamov just looks dumb.Why the hell brits are buying US shit and not making their own stuff ?Mekstizzle wrote:
why the hell do so many countries buy russian shit. They'd be better off making there own stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_W … from_AH-64
the fucking insurgents? dumbass.... gg nubspray_and_pray wrote:
Congrats you are rating it as a no.1 cause you have seen it killing people running around with nothing better to do. People could do the same with a WW2 attack chopper or Gyrocopter..Des.Kmal wrote:
Apache > all.
Oh, on BF2 it is too.
Have you seen the vids? Of the insurgents getting owned by the apache?
Edit: Pollux These which is the best threads are so useless its unbeleivable you just post pictures and which country they come from and no other info as well as when you add the country it can bias people. Not a flame just a suggestion to add a bit of statistics like top speed service ceiling armament and range. As for me its 1 in the morning and ill see you all in the morning.
Add me on Origin for Battlefield 4 fun: DesKmal
I think the Kamov would be a real bastard to fight, because it maneuver like crazy.
Oh, and to people who think a chopper is the bestest because it can pwn some poor jerks running around with AKs... Yeah. Whatever.
Oh, and to people who think a chopper is the bestest because it can pwn some poor jerks running around with AKs... Yeah. Whatever.
Fixed.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Note that the Apache shown is the AH-64A, not the AH-64D.
Maybe the reason people think the apache and cobra are the two sweetest because the tactics and doctrine the pilots are taught make them really fucking good? The 1 thing i dont think ppl are considering is the training these guys get.
I voted the Tiger, I love it but the Apache just kicks ass too
Apache. And I know it's not a dedicated attack chopper but the Huey is my most loved helo. ;D