The two terms are often falsely used interchangeably (popularized by the media), though their meanings are quite different (even with that cute little 'pro' prefix). But I suppose it makes people 'feel good' to do so, and who am I to argue with that?GorillaTicTacs wrote:
...neo-conservative pro-fascist...
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EXFUCKINACTLY! That guy didnt hold back shit when it came to OUR intrests. Now were going to get some tard that WILL bend over and take it up the poop shoot, Just like the submissive Liberals would like. We MUST be friends with everyone, fuck the countrys best intrests. (sarcasim alert!)kr@cker wrote:
i was wondering how long this would take to get on the forums, first of all, each UN ambassador's duty is to protect the needs of their respective nation, not the UN, and that's exactly what bolton did, apparently his opposition is of the opinion it was his job to bend over and take it up the ass signing away our economic freedoms as fast as possible
Oh give me a Frigging break. Most of the damn places we are set up were Not by force but by invitation from the host country. If we were asked to leave we would, BUT we havent and wont. Its not the US you should worry about being a threat to any non hostile country, We actually do have morals and do contribute to billions if not trillions to other countries anually. You should be more worried about countries whos goals ARE to dominate the world, Its not us, were trying to protect our asses and Id bet yours also. So please concentrate your gaze towards the true threats, Start with Iran and then peek over at russia.JahManRed wrote:
Like it or not, American foreign policy stretches across the globe. She has military bases in over 2/3 of the countries on this planet, said military bases containing more firepower than the country they are in, in many cases. Every person on earth has the right to be interested in American as Americas actions could adversely effect their lives directly or indirectly. When you stop acting as the worlds police/bully then you will find peoples interests in Americans foreign policies and the people who make them will disappear.
While I agree with the principle behind what you and kracker are saying, I would argue that Bolton was someone who actively distanced America from the rest of the world due to his abrasive demeanor. Considering the predicament we currently face in Iraq, I'd say it's probably important for us to amend friendships with our allies rather than to shun them.<[onex]>Headstone wrote:
EXFUCKINACTLY! That guy didnt hold back shit when it came to OUR intrests. Now were going to get some tard that WILL bend over and take it up the poop shoot, Just like the submissive Liberals would like. We MUST be friends with everyone, fuck the countrys best intrests. (sarcasim alert!)kr@cker wrote:
i was wondering how long this would take to get on the forums, first of all, each UN ambassador's duty is to protect the needs of their respective nation, not the UN, and that's exactly what bolton did, apparently his opposition is of the opinion it was his job to bend over and take it up the ass signing away our economic freedoms as fast as possible
PARDON ME...while i laugh....hahahahhahaha<[onex]>Headstone wrote:
Oh give me a Frigging break. Most of the damn places we are set up were Not by force but by invitation from the host country. If we were asked to leave we would, BUT we havent and wont. Its not the US you should worry about being a threat to any non hostile country, We actually do have morals and do contribute to billions if not trillions to other countries anually. You should be more worried about countries whos goals ARE to dominate the world, Its not us, were trying to protect our asses and Id bet yours also. So please concentrate your gaze towards the true threats, Start with Iran and then peek over at russia.JahManRed wrote:
Like it or not, American foreign policy stretches across the globe. She has military bases in over 2/3 of the countries on this planet, said military bases containing more firepower than the country they are in, in many cases. Every person on earth has the right to be interested in American as Americas actions could adversely effect their lives directly or indirectly. When you stop acting as the worlds police/bully then you will find peoples interests in Americans foreign policies and the people who make them will disappear.
Ireland has politics?Stingray24 wrote:
He's bored with Ireland's politics.
Oregon has a population?Reciprocity wrote:
Ireland has politics?Stingray24 wrote:
He's bored with Ireland's politics.
You are an American so of course you are going to say that, you feel safer in your bed knowing that your government and military has influence across the globe and can strike at any potential threats quickly and easily, protecting you and your family.<[onex]>Headstone wrote:
Oh give me a Frigging break. Most of the damn places we are set up were Not by force but by invitation from the host country. If we were asked to leave we would, BUT we haven't and wont. Its not the US you should worry about being a threat to any non hostile country, We actually do have morals and do contribute to billions if not trillions to other countries anually. You should be more worried about countries whos goals ARE to dominate the world, Its not us, were trying to protect our asses and Id bet yours also. So please concentrate your gaze towards the true threats, Start with Iran and then peek over at russia.JahManRed wrote:
Like it or not, American foreign policy stretches across the globe. She has military bases in over 2/3 of the countries on this planet, said military bases containing more firepower than the country they are in, in many cases. Every person on earth has the right to be interested in American as Americas actions could adversely effect their lives directly or indirectly. When you stop acting as the worlds police/bully then you will find peoples interests in Americans foreign policies and the people who make them will disappear.
You're right, I do feel more safe in our current configuration. Classic debate: do we or do we not isolate from the world? I'd much rather have the world police itself and the US stay at home, but I feel we would be more vulnerable, and the world doesn't seem capable or willing to behave itself. As a result, we have bases everywhere to quickly respond when we feel necessary.JahManRed wrote:
You are an American so of course you are going to say that, you feel safer in your bed knowing that your government and military has influence across the globe and can strike at any potential threats quickly and easily, protecting you and your family.
Its the non Americans who in the present global climate are scared shitless by what the US sees as a 'potential' threat. Not trying to rub it in your faces, but after the fuck up in Iraqi and the bullying and threatening of Iran and the 'Axis of Evil'. Every country on that list is now arming themselves to the teeth and this is having a knock on effect and could potentially see the kind of global arming we saw in the run up to ww1.......... I'm not worried about what America can do to me. I'm worried about her foreign policies helping to ignite something which may set off something even the military might of the USA and her allies can't control.
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