I realise that - making a redundant post is just making a redundant post. It's not right or wrong, good or bad, it's just redundant (pointless).Fancy_Pollux wrote:
That's great, but irrelevant. My claims were correct. Being redundant != being incorrect.CameronPoe wrote:
It's easy to speculate. Providing 'proof that there is speculation' is spectacularly redundant. I can provide proof that there is speculation that aliens exist. Read my edited post above.
Did I claim that visiting a country made anyone an expert on said country? All it does is give you a clearer idea in reality of the actualities on the ground in a particular country, unfiltered by the media or the internet. I can understand the position of the people he speaks of. There are two sides to every story and there are millions of people in Venezuela, all with their own individual viewpoints. It is no fault of his own that his realtions are part of the less than 10% of the Venezuelan population basking in untold wealth while the rest of the country languishes in poverty. His family is prisoner to the likely opportunism and exploitation his ancestors exercised. As such they are largely blameless and unfortunately are the scapegoat for Chavez. I sympathise with them but the fact remains that the actions required to right Venezuela will probably impinge on them adversely (given that the poverty gap must be closed and that means closing the gap in power/influence).Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Also, visiting a country != being an expert on it. It is pretty pathetic when your best attempt at a counterpoint provides only an assertion at best, and one that is a borderline personal attack. There are people who live in the region or have family that do, but they're wrong regardless simply because you've been to Latin America? I'm sorry, but they have far more credibility than you do if you insist on using your visits to the country as reason for credibility. You seem to have adopted this over-inflated sense of self-worth and importance and it is quite apparent in many of your posts as of late.CameronPoe wrote:
Most of the country? LOL. Less than 40% represents a minority, in case you haven't heard.
Get over yourself - you're obviously from the do-nothing landed classes of Venezuelan society, getting rich off the misery of others. I've been to Latin America several times and it's patently obvious how the system works over there - perpetuation of the gap between rich and poor.
I'm not interested in 'self-worth'. I state opinions. I try and support them with facts/experience. You like them or you don't. Take them or leave them. It's as simple as that.
PS You haven't actually counterpointed anything as yet. You just provided proof that there is speculation of something. What is your solution to the problems in Venezuela Pollux? I'd like to hear them. I have no concrete solution but I know that something is deeply wrong with Venezuela's past.
PPS If the Chavez re-election is SOOOooooo obviously rigged then why after the CIA seemingly managed to successfully carry out a coup did PEOPLE POWER in Venezuela manage to have him be returned from exile and back into power despite the fact the replacement puppets replaced ALL media with their own and had the army on their side. The fact is he is a popular guy, like it or not, with a lot of the populace. He is also a hated guy by many. There are way more poor people than rich people in Venezuela and he appeals to poor people, hence the reason he gets democratically elected on quite the regular basis...
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