BF2S Forums Okay, And I'm Going To Believe You About Global Warming?

ATG wrote:

http://www.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBHKNBE0VE.html

Further proof that the " Sky in falling global warming crowd" has it all wrong.
They can't predict next year, and they want you to change everything because of what they say?

Slippery Slope Fallacy for the Win

Kmarion wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

for a frame of reference for those not in the america's, florida is about 90 miles away from cuba

For frame of reference I am about 335.34 miles from Havana .
It's been a verrrrry long time since I have seen snow around these parts...lol
http://tampastorm.smugmug.com/photos/114009903-L.jpg

damn, there was another storm in florida that collapsed some stadium roofs and such, but now all the searches show is that new disney park, blizzard beach or something, fucking promo shit. i did find this though, that was a fun year for the gulf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Chris … _Snowstorm

almost forgot about that one

kr@cker wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

for a frame of reference for those not in the america's, florida is about 90 miles away from cuba

For frame of reference I am about 335.34 miles from Havana .
It's been a verrrrry long time since I have seen snow around these parts...lol
http://tampastorm.smugmug.com/photos/114009903-L.jpg

damn, there was another storm in florida that collapsed some stadium roofs and such, but now all the searches show is that new disney park, blizzard beach or something, fucking promo shit. i did find this though, that was a fun year for the gulf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Chris … _Snowstorm

almost forgot about that one

Palm trees with snow..lol

storm stretching from texas to michigan

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/news-top-headline.asp

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sectio … id=4812824
(that's I D O T spokesman, not idiot spokesman)

a couple of years ago, me and my friends went up to atlanta mid november, all wearing shortsleeves and sweating. It was somewhere around 80 degrees. Having packed for a long weekend clubbing (seriously, clubbing for 3 days straight) when they threw their stuff in my trunk they laughed after seeing jackets and sweaters in my things. I had been watching a weather report and knew what was coming. On the way up to Atl we were caught in a badass storm, doing 25 on the interstate, watching people hydroplane left and right. After sitting out the storm at our friends house we trek out about midnight (our usual time, actually) and my friends are freezing their asses off, fine by me as they were all chicks and nippletastic. me having the only coat, i was charged with keeping them warm, poor me. While waiting in line at the club it actually started snowing, from 80 to the 20's in one day. by the time we left about 6 the city was covered.

global socialism, hoo fucking ray!!

if you want other nations to operate at the same levels as the top 5, then work on bringing them up, don't knock the top 5 down.

It was 70 here on long island. 70!!! And it dropped 35 FUCKING DEGREES DURING THE COURSE OF THE NIGHT!

And it's december. Winter time. We broke a record today.

Natural? I think not.

TrollmeaT wrote:

The climate is always changing & always has with or without us, I for one am not that worried about it because we adapt to any climate.

That was some interesting stuff in that article about the dust limiting the storms, kinda like the foam they were developing to shoot into the hurricanes that would wipe them out all together.

Yeah, it hasn't changed this quickly before though, not in the past 400'000 odd years which there are accurate records for.

It's the rate of change that is worrying. The effects are being seen already in the melting of glaciers and polar ice caps. Which is happening. Last year 6% of the  Arctic melted. Antarctica and Greenland are more of a worry because they are land based ice that will significantly raise sea levels, guess what they're melting too.

The rate of climate change is directly proportional to the increase in greenhouse gas emissions, which certainly strongly suggests, if not definative proof in it's own right, that carbon emissions are to blame for this dramatic increase in rate of change.

I have yet to see any scientific papers or any sensible scientific argument that explains the rate of change in the climate to be caused by anything other than greenhouse gas emissions. I wonder why that is?

Please, someone produce any sort of credible scientific paper explaining the rate of change in climate. Not a paper simply refuting that global warming is happening (although I'm always interested to see those too), a paper that offers an alternative explaination.