some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6685

I got the M95 at first.  I was pretty unhappy with the large crosshairs, and so took the PKM next.  Surprisingly, I found it better than the average sniper rifle in the way I used it (prone, killing enemies when I'm far enough to see them but not vice versa.  Yes, I know, I'm cheap and a noob.  Flame me later, not now).  But I'm really annoyed by the non-existent accuracy of the PKM when not prone, as whenever someone is reasonably close (and I'm standing up), my shots go really wide.

Is there any in-between unlock with good, all-round accuracy, resonable damage and the ability to kill someone when standing?

--OR--

What's your favourite unlock?

EDIT:  Is the L85A1 any good?

Last edited by some_random_panda (2006-11-28 20:22:26)

Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6813|Adelaide, South Australia

G-36C for specops. for both answers too.
Sentinel
Cheeseburger Connoisseur
+145|6952|Australia
-best 1st tier unlock: G3 (assualt)
        - close second: G36C (spec ops)
Brasso
member
+1,549|6924

Iron_Sentinel wrote:

-best 1st tier unlock: G3 (assualt)
        - close second: G36C (spec ops)
I'd honestly say the G36C would be the best unlock.  Even though I love Assault.

Fav unlock is the F2000, 2nd tier Assault.  Sicknasty gun imo.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2006-11-28 20:17:57)

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6921|Warlord

some_random_panda wrote:

Is there any in-between unlock with good, all-round accuracy, resonable damage and the ability to kill someone when standing?
I'd say the G36E, unless you mean a tier-one unlock.

But it's not like the AK-101 ain't damned good.

some_random_panda wrote:

What's your favourite unlock?
If I had to pick one it would be the L96A1 since it gives you a kickass sniper rifle regardless of what army you're playing.

some_random_panda wrote:

EDIT:  Is the L85A1 any good?
Depends on the user. In some hands it's pretty effective, other peeps think it's a piece of crap (even on single shot).
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6885|Reisterstown, MD

Unlocks are overrated.  Although the L96 sniper rifle is a headshot machine and the PKM is a better alternative to the SAW.
rizbiz
Member
+3|6718
i like the F2000 alot...MG36 wouldnt be a good choice if it was up to me...as i found out the hard way...i really hate it, although i like the rest of the G36 series.
norge
J-10 and a coke please
+18|6764
omg,
USMC 1st sniper owns, mec 1st sniper owns, china 1st sniper owns
mec medic+assualt+support PWN.
ozghost
Mr piss EVERYONE off
+48|7004|Kangarooland
depending on the user, all the guns are good though choosing a specific unlock over another will be dependant on ur frame rate, what you do in game.

PKM is a support weapon, rarely will u shoot it without proning or kneeling.  Shoot it in spurts not spray and pray.

the g3 (assualt unlock) only has 20 bullets in a round but isincredibally accurate over shot to mid distances, ussually 3 shots will put them down, it also has the smoke grenade which is bloody handy when used correctly.

The Dao 12 is also a deadly weapon more over the short distances, its powerful and u have 12 bullets, so taking 4 or 5 guys out with it is not uncommon,

again; u must use ur brain and choose the wepaon best suited to the situation.

hope that helps with the info u have from the other guys on some of the other guns.

u coulda helped us to help you by telling us which unlocks you already had, perhaps even ur PID to peruse.

regards
some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6685

norge wrote:

omg,
USMC 1st sniper owns, mec 1st sniper owns, china 1st sniper owns
mec medic+assualt+support PWN.
fine, but what the other kists for USMC and China?
some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6685

ozghost wrote:

u coulda helped us to help you by telling us which unlocks you already had, perhaps even ur PID to peruse.

regards
Ok, then. (Although i already said that i had the M95 and PKM), my PID is 78982255.  I know, i suck, but enough people have told me that and it's rather unproductive, so don't tell me again.

Last edited by some_random_panda (2006-11-28 21:05:02)

Blizzard36
Modified Luck Soldier
+10|6831|Grand Forks, ND

Todd_Angelo wrote:

some_random_panda wrote:

Is the L85A1 any good?
Depends on the user. In some hands it's pretty effective, other peeps think it's a piece of crap (even on single shot).
The L85A1 actually has the worst single shot accuracy of any rifle.  Even so, I still think it's the best 1st tier unlock.  Even if it takes you a couple shots to even hit your target, with the scope you can at lest SEE your target which is quite the advantage.  It also makes one of the best Squad Leader unlocks since you can use the scope like you would use binoculars and unlike a sniper you can rock and roll when the fight get's close.

Also the medic bag usually keeps you alive as a Squad Leader long enough for fallen squadmates to keep spawning on you, and you do still die another squad member can take your kit and revive you.  Only Sniper and Support can compete as a Squad Leader since they both tend to stay a little away from the actual fight, therefore getting shot at less and so don't die.  I give the advantage there to support since it can resupply anyone who lived through the engagement and the sniper is often to far away from the fight for people to respawn and get right back into it.

As for other options, the AK 101 is actually probably the best, and it's not even an unlock!  Unfortunately, it does have the whole restricted to one army problem.  The G3 can be good, but wouldn't fit the criteria you set down.  It has the same problem as the PKM, can't hit crap while standing and only very rarely crouching.

If you have access to 2nd tier unlocks, then you're golden.  The FN 2000 for assault is just an awesome all around weapon and the G36E for medic is a super M-16.  Even though I continue to use thier 1st tier counter parts (the G3 just has massive style points, and I like the L85A1 as Squad Leader) these 2nd tiers fit what you asked for the best.
ig
This topic seems to have no actual posts
+1,199|6816
first, i suggest you search, second i suggest that you don't use unlocks. people will respect you a lot more if you use the standard guns, and it will make you a much better player.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6959|NT, like Mick Dundee

=]-[f= ig88 wrote:

first, i suggest you search, second i suggest that you don't use unlocks. people will respect you a lot more if you use the standard guns, and it will make you a much better player.
Hehe, the basic guns are better in most situations anyway. Except the 249-SAW...
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
ozghost
Mr piss EVERYONE off
+48|7004|Kangarooland

=]-[f= ig88 wrote:

first, i suggest you search, second i suggest that you don't use unlocks. people will respect you a lot more if you use the standard guns, and it will make you a much better player.
Remember when u started out?  He has 1000 points total, he is new.  Got nothing productive to say, go say it in a Fancy_pollux thread. 

Dude, quick look at what stats u have, i would personally recommnend unlocking the spec ops gun.... brilliant gun, no recoil.  At the moment ur still learning the game, you need to have confidence in killing people, this is a great gun for a learner.

regards
Spiers.ckz
Member
+10|6823

Flecco wrote:

=]-[f= ig88 wrote:

first, i suggest you search, second i suggest that you don't use unlocks. people will respect you a lot more if you use the standard guns, and it will make you a much better player.
Hehe, the basic guns are better in most situations anyway. Except the 249-SAW...
The only reason people cry about others being noobs for using unlocks is because they play ladders like CAL and whatnot, and unlocks are not allowed on these sites. Which is why they dont use them so they wont get use to them and thereby not be as good with the standard weapons in thier matches.

The fact that you guys cant admit that the unlocks are better for the most part is pathetic, and calling people noobs for using them is even more pathetic. Thats like using pistols only (in a normal server) and calling people noobs for using rifles.

I can garatee you that if unlocks were allowed in leagues like CAL there would be practically no one saying that only noobs use unlocks. They use this statement as an excuse when they get killed by someone using an unlock.

Just STFU and let people use whatever gun they like.

The being said, the G36C is an awesome gun and so is the DAO-12.... go get em.

Last edited by Spiers.ckz (2006-11-29 04:37:14)

TrashBlinD
french canadians suck
+135|6936|can

Spiers.ckz wrote:

Flecco wrote:

=]-[f= ig88 wrote:

first, i suggest you search, second i suggest that you don't use unlocks. people will respect you a lot more if you use the standard guns, and it will make you a much better player.
Hehe, the basic guns are better in most situations anyway. Except the 249-SAW...
The only reason people cry about others being noobs for using unlocks is because they play ladders like CAL and whatnot, and unlocks are not allowed on these sites. Which is why they dont use them so they wont get use to them and thereby not be as good with the standard weapons in thier matches.

The fact that you guys cant admit that the unlocks are better for the most part is pathetic, and calling people noobs for using them is even more pathetic. Thats like using pistols only (in a normal server) and calling people noobs for using rifles.

Just STFU and let people use whatever gun they like.

The being said, the G36C is an awesome gun and so is the DAO-12.... go get em.
Playing with stock guns is also good for "pubbers". It really helps you increasing your accuracy, like using the M16 instead of the G36e (you dont have to aim with that gun so you dont get good at aiming). Also, as ig said, people will respect you a lot more if you use the stock guns. And they're as good as unlocks, they just take more skill and pratice to use.

Last edited by TrashBlinD (2006-11-29 04:37:20)

Spiers.ckz
Member
+10|6823

TrashBlinD wrote:

And they're as good as unlocks, they just take more skill and pratice to use.
that right there prooves that they are not as good as unlocks doesnt it?

Lets say someone spent 50 hours getting good with the USMC medic gun. True he might be really good with it, but he would be alot better with the G36E if he spent 50 hours on that.
TrashBlinD
french canadians suck
+135|6936|can

Spiers.ckz wrote:

TrashBlinD wrote:

And they're as good as unlocks, they just take more skill and pratice to use.
that right there prooves that they are not as good as unlocks doesnt it?

Lets say someone spent 50 hours getting good with the USMC medic gun. True he might be really good with it, but he would be alot better with the G36E if he spent 50 hours on that.
Negative. You don't need to play 50 hours with the M16 to get good with it, You just need to have a decent accuracy and you will become very accuracte with it. The G36e will become useless and you'll just start laughing at your old noob days , like me.
ozghost
Mr piss EVERYONE off
+48|7004|Kangarooland
'respect for not using unlocks?

what a load of bullshit, what do guys swap sides, come into ur squad and go 'geez u owned me with that non unlock weapon, i respect u now, ur leet.'?

do u spawn and stay with that kit the whole time? i reckon i change guns about 3 times every spawn depending on the needs of the squad/team.
TrashBlinD
french canadians suck
+135|6936|can

ozghost wrote:

'respect for not using unlocks?

what a load of bullshit, what do guys swap sides, come into ur squad and go 'geez u owned me with that non unlock weapon, i respect u now, ur leet.'?

do u spawn and stay with that kit the whole time? i reckon i change guns about 3 times every spawn depending on the needs of the squad/team.
No, but I have a lot more respect for players who can own with the stocks. Using the G36e is too easy, any noob can get a decent accuracy with that gun.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6813|Adelaide, South Australia

ENOUGH!

https://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/Nachtefuchs/extinguisher.jpg

if you want to argue over the 1337ness of stocks/unlock, make your own damn thread.
ozghost
Mr piss EVERYONE off
+48|7004|Kangarooland

TrashBlinD wrote:

ozghost wrote:

'respect for not using unlocks?

what a load of bullshit, what do guys swap sides, come into ur squad and go 'geez u owned me with that non unlock weapon, i respect u now, ur leet.'?

do u spawn and stay with that kit the whole time? i reckon i change guns about 3 times every spawn depending on the needs of the squad/team.
No, but I have a lot more respect for players who can own with the stocks. Using the G36e is too easy, any noob can get a decent accuracy with that gun.
you cant really tell but do ya, and then only if they kill ya?  Accuracy percentages mean fuck all too, i go shoot at an empty vehicle all game, i will have 100% accuracy...

btw, my no unlock account, http://bf2s.com/player/82803331/

can i have that respect in cookie form please 
ozghost
Mr piss EVERYONE off
+48|7004|Kangarooland

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

ENOUGH!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/N … uisher.jpg

if you want to argue over the 1337ness of stocks/unlock, make your own damn thread.
if you want to post a picture in every damn post u make atleast stick a pencil up your ass so we can call you mr squiggle.


EDIT. 
hmm...so u seem to be doubling up on ur pics tonight, as in u score even less then u ussually do for originality...

come on you can do it, its not that hard.

Last edited by ozghost (2006-11-29 05:00:37)

Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6813|Adelaide, South Australia

ozghost wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

ENOUGH!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/N … uisher.jpg

if you want to argue over the 1337ness of stocks/unlock, make your own damn thread.
if you want to post a picture in every damn post u make atleast stick a pencil up your ass so we can call you mr squiggle.
https://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/Nachtefuchs/stfuwwII.jpg


EDIT. 

ozghost wrote:

hmm...so u seem to be doubling up on ur pics tonight, as in u score even less then u ussually do for originality...

come on you can do it, its not that hard.
https://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/Nachtefuchs/wpostfudyus.jpg

Last edited by Fenris_GreyClaw (2006-11-29 05:03:00)

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