notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|6745|The United Center
Yes, I said it.

Wait for it...wait for it...
...and now that the stampede of fanboys have arrived at this thread, I eagerly await the replies of "no u" or "lol k".

At work I use Java every day.  I edit websites and one of the tools we have for minor edits (typos and the such) is a Java-based browser applet.  It runs perfectly fine in IE.  I'd say about 40% of the time I run it in Firefox, FF locks up and crashes.

Also, as I type this, Firefox is using 523,200K of RAM.  I don't know if it's a memory leak.  I don't know if it's a cache issue.  Randomly Firefox will just start eating RAM like there's no tomorrow.  The highest I've seen it get is around 800K.  I have 3Gb of RAM, yet even when FF is using 800K, it takes about five to 10 seconds to close a tab, twice that long to load a web page, and many times when I type in the browser, there's a good three to five second delay between hitting the key and seeing it display on the screen.

So why do I still use it?  I'm used to it.  I actually use a combination of IE and FF.  Opera, you say?  I really can't be bothered.  However, I'm seriously considering switching back and using IE7.

Because honestly, Firefox sucks.
d4rkph03n1x
Member
+131|6748

Opera sounds pretty gay to me. I reckon stick with firefox, or go to Internet Explorer. I like both, and I can't really be bothered trying new things. Mainly because I know that the two that i'm used to, work. (MOST OF THE TIME). I hate firefox crashes, and I've also experienced times where I couldn't run java applets. But I do like the about:config tweaks that you can do. Find me a tweak guide for inet explorer and i'll use that instead.
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6683|Espoo, Finland
Only thing that sucks about firefox is the memory use, though it ran perfectly fine even with my old PC (AMD 3000+, 1GB DDR).
Never had any other problems with it.
Fenix14
scout rush kekeke ^___^
+116|6555|Brisbane, Aus

Its different for all people and what they do usually, some like this others that.

had a bit of a problem with java and my Firefox, but I can't remember what I was doing that used java, so hasn't happened since


Me: Firefox; was introduced to it and I love it, does everything I need to and laid out how I can understand it, simple add-ons to do extra stuff.

never had much time on IE7, too confusing for me, so stuck with FF.


also, thread would have fit well in a single post in http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=96142

Last edited by Fenix14 (2008-03-14 02:04:22)

.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6452|The Twilight Zone
It doesn't suck, your applet just isn't optimized for Firefox. Some other applet might crash in IE but not in Firefox.
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1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|6672|Cardiff, Capital of Wales
My firefox in work keeps doing the old "crashed" and then I have to "Restore Session".

If I been looking at porn in work sometimes and close the page little do I know it has crashed it just closes normally.  The next person comes to this pc uses it, opens a webpage and gets the message "Do you want to restore session?".  I just know they do aswell. The Perv's.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6437|King Of The Islands

Firefox might be bloat (apparently ), but at least when the window pops up you can start typing.

I fucking hate IE7 loading up. It appears, address bar at the ready, so you're like
"Sweet, now I can type the address"

But no, its not done yet. You have to sit there and wait for the Status Bar to appear before it even begins to load the web page. Now you can click the address bar
"Sweet, now I can type the address"

Oh, but it still doesn't do jack shit, because in its infinite wisdom, IE won't accept user input until its finished loading the home page. In our case, we have the glorious bloated festering piece of ad-filled shit known as NineMSN... after about 8 redirects. Oh but that's okay, because it responds to the twentieth Esc. So it stops going through the redirect maze.
"Sweet, now I can type the address"

Oh, but now it spends another 30 seconds to pull the "Navigation Canceled" page out of its arse. And then, and only then, can you type the address you want.

While that takes 4 years to confirm with Microsoft's Phishing filter, you open a new tab and go elsewhere. After it grumbles away a bit more to figure out how to open a tab again, there's two options it'll do:

1. Welcome to Tabs, this didn't take a year and a half to load.
2. Opens your... homepage. ARGH!

Fuck you IE.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6648

FF3b has addressed a lot of the memory leakage problems. That said, I've never had any issues with it using so much RAM that stuff slows down. Never had any issues with crashing either, except with FF3b, as it is a beta.
jsnipy
...
+3,276|6521|...

.Sup wrote:

It doesn't suck, your applet just isn't optimized for Firefox. Some other applet might crash in IE but not in Firefox.
In theory you should not need to optimize a Java applet for a certain browser ... it sort of defeats the purpose of using a Java applet to begin with.

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-03-14 03:32:18)

AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6462|A W S M F O X

Cheez wrote:

Firefox might be bloat (apparently ), but at least when the window pops up you can start typing.

I fucking hate IE7 loading up. It appears, address bar at the ready, so you're like
"Sweet, now I can type the address"

But no, its not done yet. You have to sit there and wait for the Status Bar to appear before it even begins to load the web page. Now you can click the address bar
"Sweet, now I can type the address"

Oh, but it still doesn't do jack shit, because in its infinite wisdom, IE won't accept user input until its finished loading the home page. In our case, we have the glorious bloated festering piece of ad-filled shit known as NineMSN... after about 8 redirects. Oh but that's okay, because it responds to the twentieth Esc. So it stops going through the redirect maze.
"Sweet, now I can type the address"

Oh, but now it spends another 30 seconds to pull the "Navigation Canceled" page out of its arse. And then, and only then, can you type the address you want.

While that takes 4 years to confirm with Microsoft's Phishing filter, you open a new tab and go elsewhere. After it grumbles away a bit more to figure out how to open a tab again, there's two options it'll do:

1. Welcome to Tabs, this didn't take a year and a half to load.
2. Opens your... homepage. ARGH!

Fuck you IE.
CHeez wins the internet again *fanfare*
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6438|Brisbane, Australia

ghettoperson wrote:

That said, I've never had any issues with it using so much RAM that stuff slows down. Never had any issues with crashing either, except with FF3b, as it is a beta.
QFT.

Firefox has done everything I have needed it to, and if it couldnt do something I can quickly search add ons and get it to do that said thing.
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The#1Spot
Member
+105|6538|byah
Its your computer. Mine never goes over 600kb and thats with 12+web pages up at a time occasionally. I only have 2gb of ram.
Fenix14
scout rush kekeke ^___^
+116|6555|Brisbane, Aus

sorry the more I read your post the more it seems like its goading a response.

ThomasMorgan wrote:

Because honestly, I suck at Firefox.
Nordemus
BC2 plat: CG, GL, M60, Mortar, Knife
+60|5996
Aye. Firefox is taking too much memory and it crashes most of the time when I go to any site that has Java on it (Like WoW armory, its a wild bet, 1 of the 5 times it does not crash...)
XxxMerliNxxX
Member
+5|6306
Slimbrowser for me.  Even though it uses IE, the tabbing is second to none.  Opera mini for my blackberry.
rh27
Not really a Brit
+51|6595|England
QFT.

The only people I've ever seen who don't love Opera are die-hard closed minded FireFox fanboys.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6462|cuntshitlake

I prefer Opera over FF because FF is slower and takes 2 to 3 times the ram.

FF over IE because it can at lest be considered stable, whereas IE is one of the worst broadly used pieces of software (along with iTunes and MSN messenger)
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NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6467

DeathUnlimited wrote:

I prefer Opera over FF because FF is slower and takes 2 to 3 times the ram.

FF over IE because it can at lest be considered stable, whereas IE is one of the worst broadly used pieces of software (along with iTunes and MSN messenger)
BF2cc is the worst piece of shitware ever created.
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notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|6745|The United Center

Fenix14 wrote:

sorry the more I read your post the more it seems like its goading a response.

ThomasMorgan wrote:

Because honestly, I suck at Firefox.
Exactly right.  Because memory leaks and Java applets causing the browser to crash...yeah, that's the user's fault.

Good logic there, chief.  Care to try again?  Or, you know, should I just leave your post viewable so you look like an idiot to the general public?
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6563|Area 51
no u
Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|6683|West Yorkshire, U.K
Hmm, Firefox tabs seem to be tempremental with me, sometimes I keep hitting ctrl + T and nothing happens, even if the browser is highlihted
AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6462|A W S M F O X

ThomasMorgan wrote:

Fenix14 wrote:

sorry the more I read your post the more it seems like its goading a response.

ThomasMorgan wrote:

Because honestly, I suck at Firefox.
Exactly right.  Because memory leaks and Java applets causing the browser to crash...yeah, that's the user's fault.

Good logic there, chief.  Care to try again?  Or, you know, should I just leave your post viewable so you look like an idiot to the general public?
lol?
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6731|St. Andrews / Oslo

Try Opera.

No really.


It's Norwegian, Sexy and Awesome.... Like me
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Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|6683|West Yorkshire, U.K

Jenspm wrote:

Try Opera.

No really.


It's Norwegian, Sexy and Awesome.... Like me
nou

No I actually might try it, to see what all the hype is about
Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|6406|Somersetshire

rh27 wrote:

QFT.

The only people I've ever seen who don't love Opera are die-hard closed minded FireFox fanboys.
i'm a firefox fanboy, i love opera, the only reason i don't use opera instead is because it's "content blocker" is crap, it can only block pictures, whereas addblock plus for firefox can block links, pictures and even the frame that the add is in, thus making it so an add will never appear there

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