OrangeHound
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TravisC555 wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

I think I figured out what is really going on ... it is the lawyers again.   Stage6 / DivX are losing court battles over content posted on their site, and they do not have enough financial resources to continue the legal battles:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/63562-c … e6-pirates
The TV Links website (Had many Movies, episodes of TV shows, documentaries, cartoons, etc) also got shutdown by lawyers, they didn't even host the videos, they just merely linked to them from other sites.  It is a shame when popular sites like this are forced to shut down.
Yeah, but TV Links was replaced almost overnight* ... so, that wasn't much of a loss.  I fear that it might be some time before this gets replaced.



* See, for example http://www.surfthechannel.com/
TravisC555
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OrangeHound wrote:

TravisC555 wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

I think I figured out what is really going on ... it is the lawyers again.   Stage6 / DivX are losing court battles over content posted on their site, and they do not have enough financial resources to continue the legal battles:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/63562-c … e6-pirates
The TV Links website (Had many Movies, episodes of TV shows, documentaries, cartoons, etc) also got shutdown by lawyers, they didn't even host the videos, they just merely linked to them from other sites.  It is a shame when popular sites like this are forced to shut down.
Yeah, but TV Links was replaced almost overnight* ... so, that wasn't much of a loss.  I fear that it might be some time before this gets replaced.



* See, for example http://www.surfthechannel.com/
I didn't know that, thanks. IMO they should have pressed charges on the sites that were hosting the pirated videos, not a site that was just linking to them.
3lmo
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Mine is better tbh
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OrangeHound wrote:

TravisC555 wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

I think I figured out what is really going on ... it is the lawyers again.   Stage6 / DivX are losing court battles over content posted on their site, and they do not have enough financial resources to continue the legal battles:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/63562-c … e6-pirates
The TV Links website (Had many Movies, episodes of TV shows, documentaries, cartoons, etc) also got shutdown by lawyers, they didn't even host the videos, they just merely linked to them from other sites.  It is a shame when popular sites like this are forced to shut down.
Yeah, but TV Links was replaced almost overnight* ... so, that wasn't much of a loss.  I fear that it might be some time before this gets replaced.



* See, for example http://www.surfthechannel.com/
all Tv Links did was change the co.uk to .cc rofl

you didn't hear it from me

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"mister Alpha"
"yes"
"POLICE FOOL!"
"noes"
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Stingray24
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I DLed a bunch of my favorite Top Gear episodes yesterday.  Must have those.
NUNYA! Bluecow003
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Sorry if it's been posted before, but sign the petition to save Stage6:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/ … gi?pros599

Probably won't work, but it can't hurt either, so just sign it if you like Stage6 at all.
OrangeHound
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NUNYA! Bluecow003 wrote:

Sorry if it's been posted before, but sign the petition to save Stage6:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/ … gi?pros599

Probably won't work, but it can't hurt either, so just sign it if you like Stage6 at all.
lol .... signatures do not equal money.
NUNYA! Bluecow003
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No they don't, but if say another company sees the demand for something like Stage6, then maybe an alternative will pop up or some investment will be made into Stage6.  In any case, signing a petition can't hurt anything.
OrangeHound
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NUNYA! Bluecow003 wrote:

No they don't, but if say another company sees the demand for something like Stage6, then maybe an alternative will pop up or some investment will be made into Stage6.  In any case, signing a petition can't hurt anything.
The demand for Stage6 is well documented via site statistics.  The issue here is money, and (in particular) the lawsuit liability that a company would assume if they were to purchase the site.

If a company were interested in a site like Stage6, then they would just create a new site.  It will happen eventually ... it may be 6 months or a year, but it will happen.
kptk92
u
+972|6408|tc_london
Wtf the message isnt on the home page anymore ... making the most of its last night?
SamTheMan:D
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SamTheMan:D wrote:

feb 28th is my b day
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SamTheMan:D wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

feb 28th is my b day
Congratz.
kptk92
u
+972|6408|tc_london

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

feb 28th is my b day
Congratz.
How dare you with your sarcasm
Mekstizzle
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Wow sams, almost the big one three eh?
OrangeHound
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kptk92 wrote:

Wtf the message isnt on the home page anymore ... making the most of its last night?
Scroll down ... it is now at the bottom of the page.
kptk92
u
+972|6408|tc_london
lol close naow plex
OmniDeath
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kptk92 wrote:

lol close naow plex
Site's still up
jsnipy
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ebug9 wrote:

The freekin online petition that was set up to keep stage6 open has almost reached 16000 signatures. Let's hope it actually makes a difference.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/ … gi?pros599
Nice notion, but they already know millions of people will be pissed. If it is viable someone will fill the void.

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-02-28 07:56:04)

OrangeHound
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OmniDeath wrote:

kptk92 wrote:

lol close naow plex
Site's still up
Yeah ... still moving stuff off ... last I checked, something like 30 gigs.
kptk92
u
+972|6408|tc_london

OrangeHound wrote:

OmniDeath wrote:

kptk92 wrote:

lol close naow plex
Site's still up
Yeah ... still moving stuff off ... last I checked, something like 30 gigs.
CLOSE IT NOW I CANT BEAR IT
kptk92
u
+972|6408|tc_london
lol still not closed
PhaxeNor
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kptk92 wrote:

lol still not closed
Note that Stage6 is from USA So still some hours before this day is over

Last edited by PhaxeNor (2008-02-28 13:07:17)

ScoutStrike
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Heh, I guess I can safely uninstall the DivX web player now.
OrangeHound
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Hmmm ... another rumor is that this is an internal battle, it would seem ... arguing over money.  Perhaps the "notice" is a bargaining ploy and the site may not shut down after all.  I guess we will see ...

But, if the revenue streams are as they say, then they truly would be idiots if this is the storyline.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/se … /#comments

Serious Drama, And Lots Of Stupidity, Behind Stage6 Shutdown


Yesterday San Diego based DivX announced the shutdown of popular video site Stage6, to the surprise and dismay of the site’s 17.4 million happy monthly visitors (the post on the shutdown has over 5,000 comments).

There’s lots of speculation around why DivX is shutting the site down, ranging from piracy issues to the spiraling CDN costs of streaming all that HD content. But what really happened, according to multiple sources, is that a ridiculous battle of egos at the DivX board level caused most of the team to simply quit. DivX, essentially, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

First a bit of history - just before DivX went public in late 2006 it launched Stage6 as a way to show off the capabilities of the DivX codec. Without any promotion at all the site quickly gathered users. By mid 2007, when the site went into beta, it had millions of users and tens of millions of page views. The high quality video was key - users simply flocked to it.

DivX cofounder and CEO Jordan Greenhall knew he had a potential hit on his hands. He decided to explore a sale of Stage6, and hired investment bank Montgomery & Co. to see who might buy it. He also started pitching VCs on the idea of funding it as a spinoff. Given the conflict of interest, he resigned as CEO of DivX - president Kevin Hell took over the company. Darrius Thompson, (DivX co-founder), Mark How (DivX VP Business Development), Mark Chweh, Chester Ng and about 20 other DivX employees joined him. All shared the title of “cofounder” at Stage6.

Montgomery spent the second half of 2007 pitching Stage6 to buyers, although there wasn’t much interest. But VCs were eager to buy in to the idea of a spinoff. By November they had commitments from Crosslink Capital, Sofinnova France and Mission Ventures to invest $20 million at a $90 million post money valuation. Another $5 million was committed from a strategic investor, plus $2 million more from “friends and family.” All in all, Stage6 was preparing to close a $27 million round. DivX was to retain 20% ownership in the new funded entity.

Not only was DivX to receive a substantial chunk of equity in the new company, they’d be able to get the operating costs, estimated to be around $1 million/month in CDN costs alone, off their books. And Stage6 was to give most of their 2008 revenues back to Divx as well.

Those revenues were not immaterial. Everyone who views a video on Stage6 must first download the DivX player. Packaged with the download was an option to download the Yahoo Toolbar. The revenue from Yahoo to DivX is around $16 million per year. Our sources estimate that half that, or around $8 million/year, was due to Stage6 downloads. And that share was growing - 2008 toolbar revenues may have been as high as $10 million, making Stage6 almost breakeven.

At a meeting in late November the DivX board was asked to approve the spinoff and venture financing. But at the last minute the board decided to cancel the spinoff and retain control of Stage6. It’s not clear why they did this - perhaps they were surprised at the valuation and wanted to keep control of the assets. Or perhaps the revenue from Stage6 was too material for them to let it go over the long run. From what we hear a massive battle of ego’s ultimately killed the deal. But when the decision was made, the key Stage6 founders resigned. DivX made a brief announcement about Greenhall’s departure, and added that it “expects to take additional time to consider the alternatives available to the Company related to the future of the Stage6 service.”

From that point everyone expected DivX to just continue to run the site. But over December and January they may have become concerned again about the costs of streaming the video and running the site without most of the key team there to look after things. Three weeks ago, we hear, DivX re-approached Greenhall and asked if they’d like to do the original deal. Greenhall declined.

So then DivX announced the closure of Stage6. When it shuts down all those millions of DivX downloads and associated Yahoo revenue goes away with it. At the end of the day DivX threw out the baby, the bathwater, millions of dollars in revenue and tens of millions of users. Their board and executive team, in short, look like fools. Investors seem to agree - the stock hit an all time low today.

DivX declined to comment on this post.
PhaxeNor
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I hope it won't shut down! It's the only thing I can watch when im on school now.. Since they have blocked youtube and flash doesn't work in proxy sites.

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