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SharkyMcshark wrote:

"And then people say 'oh my god this is really bad, how could this happen?'... Well you've got a lot of guns lying around, and they do have a limited range of household applications..." - Dylan Moran

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

cmon u cant deny the fact that america has a massive number of shooting compared to other developed countries... i mean is it possible ur lax gun laws have something to do with it??
any deranged kid in the USA can get his hands on a gun..

using Australia as an example (yer were all convicts blah blah) u just dont see a 16 yr old in the city getting his hands on a gun.
and u know wat... we have tighter gun laws... and we have ALOT less gun related deaths.

(in fact really the only gun related deaths in australia are accidents and the new wave of depressed farmers commiting suicide)

Prepare to be told that the answer is that EVERYONE should be carrying guns. EVERYONE.

usmarine2005 wrote:

SharkyMcshark wrote:

"And then people say 'oh my god this is really bad, how could this happen?'... Well you've got a lot of guns lying around, and they do have a limited range of household applications..." - Dylan Moran

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

cmon u cant deny the fact that america has a massive number of shooting compared to other developed countries... i mean is it possible ur lax gun laws have something to do with it??
any deranged kid in the USA can get his hands on a gun..

using Australia as an example (yer were all convicts blah blah) u just dont see a 16 yr old in the city getting his hands on a gun.
and u know wat... we have tighter gun laws... and we have ALOT less gun related deaths.

(in fact really the only gun related deaths in australia are accidents and the new wave of depressed farmers commiting suicide)

Prepare to be told that the answer is that EVERYONE should be carrying guns. EVERYONE.

Ya ya STFU you idiots.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st … -2,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,308961,00.html
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=227449

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

cmon u cant deny the fact that america has a massive number of shooting compared to other developed countries... i mean is it possible ur lax gun laws have something to do with it??
any deranged kid in the USA can get his hands on a gun..

using Australia as an example (yer were all convicts blah blah) u just dont see a 16 yr old in the city getting his hands on a gun.
and u know wat... we have tighter gun laws... and we have ALOT less gun related deaths.

(in fact really the only gun related deaths in australia are accidents and the new wave of depressed farmers commiting suicide)

First of all read all of my post regarding the Australian comment... maybe pay attention to the one that says " I have nothing but props for the Aussies". Secondly of course we have more shootings in terms of absolute numbers. You would have to multiply your population about 14 times to equal the numbers the United states has. The difference in homicide rates per capita isn't enough for me to give up my freedoms.

Murders (per capita) http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_m … per-capita
United States:: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
Australia::: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people

yes but that is talking about murders isnt it?? not specifically guns... sure we find otherways to kill each other in australia.. but id rather that then every phycotic person having access to a semi auto rifle (or something like that)

and even with ur numbers when were talking about GUN related deaths america takes the cake... all of europe combined does not have as many gun related deaths as america... and me thinks theres more ppl in europe than US of A

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

im sorry usmarine but i dont have time to link every gun murder in america in the last year... would take me weeks

Nor did I from around the world.  But when you say "we never"...it makes you look like a douchenozzle.

please inform me when i EVER said the words "we never"

usmarine2005 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Nor did I from around the world.  But when you say "we never"...it makes you look like a douchenozzle.

please inform me when i EVER said the words "we never"

"using Australia as an example (yer were all convicts blah blah) u just dont see a 16 yr old in the city getting his hands on a gun."

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

please inform me when i EVER said the words "we never"

"using Australia as an example (yer were all convicts blah blah) u just dont see a 16 yr old in the city getting his hands on a gun."

and none of the stories had anything about a 16 year old shooter...

and i didnt say never ... by "u just dont see etcetc" i mean it is extremely uncommon. not impossible

usmarine2005 wrote:

SharkyMcshark wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Ya ya STFU you idiots.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st … -2,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,308961,00.html
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=227449

Hey look, you can find four whole stories.

Does the fact that every fortnight at least once I hear on the radio "Today in *insert American town here* a gunman opened fire in a school/shopping mall/busy street" not warrant some feeling that theres a problem?

Heres some figures for you:


     Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

                  Homicide     Suicide     Other (inc Accident)

USA (2001)             3.98    5.92   0.36
Italy (1997)               0.81     1.1     0.07
Switzerland (1998)   0.50   5.8     0.10
Canada (2002)           0.4     2.0     0.04
Finland (2003)      0.35     4.45     0.10
Australia (2001)     0.24     1.34     0.10
France (2001)             0.21     3.4     0.49
England/Wales (2002)  0.15   0.2     0.03
Scotland (2002)     0.06     0.2     0.02
Japan (2002)              0.02     0.04     0

gtfo with wiki stats

DrunkFace wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Murders (per capita) http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_m … per-capita
United States:: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
Australia::: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people

I don't see your point? It is still 3 times higher Per capita.

And that's nothing to be concerned about?

SharkyMcshark wrote:

1. They're not wiki stats.

2. You can't dismiss them because you don;t like what they show (that there IS a problem).

Just because you had fun playing with guns in the army marine it doesn't mean that they're not part of the problem here.

usmarine2005 wrote:

SharkyMcshark wrote:

1. They're not wiki stats.

2. You can't dismiss them because you don;t like what they show (that there IS a problem).

Just because you had fun playing with guns in the army marine it doesn't mean that they're not part of the problem here.

1.  Source next time

2.  I did not dismiss anything

3.  The problem is not guns

usmarine2005 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

yer the problem isnt guns... its every nutjob in america having access to guns

I take it you are young??

When I was young, we had MUCH easier access to guns as there were far less restrictions, and stuff like this did not happen.  So tell me guns is the problem again.

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

yer the problem isnt guns... its every nutjob in america having access to guns

I take it you are young??

When I was young, we had MUCH easier access to guns as there were far less restrictions, and stuff like this did not happen.  So tell me guns is the problem again.

so u think ur helping the problem by making guns accessable... sure theres factors that makes ppl crazy. but giving them a gun to express there anger doesnt seem wise