NoTank4U
Member
+2|6129
player of clan zeitlos cheating or not?
http://files.filefront.com/AimbotNikkiwmv/;8055290;;/fileinfo.html

Last edited by NoTank4U (2007-07-14 18:27:23)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6704|67.222.138.85
You can't just delete the old post and make a new one. Don't do it again.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6672|Florida, United States

As I said in your last thread, yes, he's hacking.

*reposts the MythBusters 'Confirmed' sign*
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6461|meh-land
probably hacking, most obviously signified at the end when he killed the guy, pointed his gun somewhere else but didn't stop shooting.  thats the true hallmark of aimbotters, when they don't stop shotting as they are snapping

however, you need to learn how to video aimbotters better..
I.M.I Militant
We Are Not Alone In Here
+297|6717|Melbourne, Australia
why do so many people hax in clan matches.. i spose there is more of a point to do so in clan matches then pub but

they should have enough maturity to leave it out of Clan matches
I.M.I Militant
We Are Not Alone In Here
+297|6717|Melbourne, Australia

Blehm98 wrote:

probably hacking, most obviously signified at the end when he killed the guy, pointed his gun somewhere else but didn't stop shooting.  thats the true hallmark of aimbotters, when they don't stop shotting as they are snapping

however, you need to learn how to video aimbotters better..
its a real shame actully it would be good to have first person view of the aimbotter that would help alot more but i dont think you need such evidence for this case its pretty blatent
Doggehspike
~Ð~
+41|6490
Animation bug while strafing left.

Here's a short video I made:

http://files.filefront.com/zomghaxwmv/; … einfo.html

Notice that it only happens while strafing left, and during your video I only saw her strafe left.
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6461|meh-land
and the fact that at range the person continued firing through the snap?  Normal players NEVER do that unless the two targets are seriously 5 feet away from each other
Doggehspike
~Ð~
+41|6490
So she kept firing for an extra second? That doesn't prove she hacks.
geNius
..!.,
+144|6440|SoCal
Don't be ignorant.  That's a hack.
https://srejects.com/genius/srejects.png
Doggehspike
~Ð~
+41|6490
Believe what you want.
Andoura
Got loooollllll ?
+853|6636|Montreal, Qc, Canada
gene_pool
Banned
+519|6619|Gold coast, Aus.

geNius wrote:

Don't be ignorant.  That's a hack.
No its not. its an animation glitch. I got done for the same thing:

Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6461|meh-land
You weren't aiming at anyone, you just had a gay animation glitch.  A snap to a person, and a snap somewhere else, especially to another person, especially while firing, is a strong indicator for an aimbot.
Doggehspike
~Ð~
+41|6490
You don't understand do you? She isn't snapping to the person she's already lined her shot up but when you actually shoot while strafing left it looks like she's snapped to the target.
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6461|meh-land
Let me tell you something

There is not one 'GOOD' player out there who, when shooting at people more than a couple degrees apart, will shift aim while still shooting.  No one.  It is plain stupid, because you lose too much accuracy in between.  It is essentially one of the easiest things to see in an aimbotter, although its harder to see nowadays, now that aimbots are better, but it is still the same.  If someone shifts targets without stopping shooting, they are almost 100% for sure hacking.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6392|The Gem Saloon

Blehm98 wrote:

they are almost 100%
so would that be like 95%?
gene_pool
Banned
+519|6619|Gold coast, Aus.

Blehm98 wrote:

Let me tell you something

There is not one 'GOOD' player out there who, when shooting at people more than a couple degrees apart, will shift aim while still shooting.  No one.  It is plain stupid, because you lose too much accuracy in between. .
I do 


This is the sort of thing you look for in a hack.

http://files.filefront.com/hackswmv/;77 … einfo.html

And, you may be surprised but that person isn't using hacks. That person is me. Sometimes i snap to directions where i get hit whilst firing to people, and judge by UAV. Hes not hacking, lol.
Doggehspike
~Ð~
+41|6490
Look closely. (I think I know what part of the movie you mean.)

The guy runs out from the box room, she throws a nade at him but he hides behind the tree - his team mate comes out and gets killed by the nade. She's strafing left so it looks like she's aiming somewhere else and she shoots so it snaps to where she was really aiming. She doesn't kill more then one person in any of those clips with a gun.

If you download the movie you'll see more clearly.
Ricerckt93
Member
+69|6650
That sudden snapping towards the enemy has me convinced.

Happened not once, but several times.

The other players didn't do that.
Jbrar
rawr
+86|6539|Winterpeg, Canada
That account's only been created a month ago, not that it's a big deal. But usually hackers try their shit on new acccounts.
geNius
..!.,
+144|6440|SoCal

Ricerckt93 wrote:

That sudden snapping towards the enemy has me convinced.

Happened not once, but several times.

The other players didn't do that.
https://srejects.com/genius/srejects.png
Sgt.Gene
...
+215|6761

Blehm98 wrote:

Let me tell you something

There is not one 'GOOD' player out there who, when shooting at people more than a couple degrees apart, will shift aim while still shooting.  No one.  It is plain stupid, because you lose too much accuracy in between.  It is essentially one of the easiest things to see in an aimbotter, although its harder to see nowadays, now that aimbots are better, but it is still the same.  If someone shifts targets without stopping shooting, they are almost 100% for sure hacking.
I shift aim while firing. For instance, if I am facing one enemy, Ill shoot and try to kill, while I am shooting if another enemy enters and engages me, I will switch to him and kill him off first, then switch back to the one I was shooting before. It is better to take out a fully healed enemy first and finish off the first guy last, as he will have less health.

gene_pool wrote:

Sometimes i snap to directions where i get hit whilst firing to people, and judge by UAV. Hes not hacking, lol.
I do this also.
gene_pool
Banned
+519|6619|Gold coast, Aus.

Ricerckt93 wrote:

That sudden snapping towards the enemy has me convinced.

Happened not once, but several times.

The other players didn't do that.
Oh god... how many times... Those snappings were ANIMATION glitches.
Arnie_Ze_Austrian
Member
+55|6140
If it's a glitch then surely it's easy to prove?  Sometimes demo files (for various games) have limited amounts of data and interpolate so snapping can be exaggerated, but it looks very sus to me.  That's some pretty conspicuous snapping.

And, you may be surprised but that person isn't using hacks. That person is me. Sometimes i snap to directions where i get hit whilst firing to people, and judge by UAV. Hes not hacking, lol.
You 'snap' directions accurately while looking at the UAV whilst firing at other targets?  There's a big difference between switching targets and snapping directly to 'em.  I'm a UAV whore so sometimes I will look at walls and stuff as I'm figuring out the direction someone on the UAV will be coming from (or to line up a gren on a hidden enemy) but I won't be snapping around like crazy.  None of the people I play with have ever exhibited behaviour where they snap all over the place.  If it's not a game bug (and is instead a demo bug) then surely significantly more people would've been accused?

I think it's rather curious that both of you guys have sigs full of hack accusations and you got your stats wiped, though.
If it's a bug, then I'm sure you guys can easily can prove it.  It'll be interesting to see whether you do, though.  Please do.

Last edited by Arnie_Ze_Austrian (2007-07-15 00:02:10)

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