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DirectX 10.0 is only fully compatible with Windows Vista

The X2900 is out, the 8800 Ultra is out, and prices are getting lower everywhere. And a lot of people, coming up to summer, will be upgrading. With this guide, you can guarantee you'll get the best bang for buck! All prices are in $USD and £GBP

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There is no short answer as to what card you need, because you need to take a lot of things into consideration. If you are even entering the world of DirectX 10.0 graphics, you should have a system that is at least:

Processor: Core 2 Duo, AMD Athlon 64 X2, AMD Athlon AM2
Motherboard: Ability of speed 8x on PCI-Express Slot, for SLi or Crossfire 16x16 Dual PCI-Express
RAM: Minimum 2GB, otherwise DX10 is a serious overkill to your system
Operating System: Windows Vista
Power Supply: Wattage listed per card - AT LEAST 36A on +12V RAIL(s) {combined}*


*I cannot stress the power supply amperage (A) enough.

If you specifications are under this, I would seriously consider upgrading those core parts before entering the world of DirectX 10.0C - think of how long DX9 lasted, that'll be the same, if not more, with DX10. Okay, moving onto the actual cards now! I'll go through each of them, so if you are solely interested in one, you should find it here along with pictures (for easy reading):

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nVidia 8500GT : $85 - £50

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t143/leetkyle/8500gt.jpg

The 8500GT is primarily aimed for non-heavy graphics users (casual+ gamers, graphics design) who use Windows Vista and what to get the best use of translucent windows and the raved Aero theme. Recommended solely to non-heavy graphics users.

Review #1 (Phoronix)


Recommended Power Supply (Single): 400W
Recommended Power Supply (SLi): 500W


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nVidia 8600GT : $150 - £85*

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t143/leetkyle/8600gt.jpg

The 8600GT is a low-range gaming card, similar standard to today's 7400-7600 in both pricing and performance. Although many DirectX 10.0 games will be dominated at high-end cards, the 8600GT can just about cope! Recommended to budget casual DirectX 10.0 gamers.

* £85 stated because although on OcUK it is the cheapest, generally speaking, the cards will not perform as well and/or not last as long as others.

Review #1 (XS Reviews)


Recommended Power Supply (Single): 440W
Recommended Power Supply (SLi): 520W

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nVidia 8600GTS : $170 - £125*

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t143/leetkyle/8600gts.jpg

The 8600GTS is the next step to DirectX 10.0 Gaming. It has the ability to keep up to date with current DirectX 10.0 Games and Vista for quite a while. Definetely, on a budget, this card is recommended to gamers with a slightly higher budget. This card will perform well for many months, and will have the ability to play a lot of DirectX 10.0 games smoothly on designated (recommended) settings.

* £125 stated because although on OcUK it is the cheapest, generally speaking, the cards will not perform as well and/or not last as long as others.

Review #1 (Hexus)


Recommended Power Supply (Single): 470W
Recommended Power Supply (SLi): 550W

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nVidia 8800GTS (320MB) : $285 - £185

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t143/leetkyle/8800gts_320.jpg

Now we are onto a strong contender for gaming. Onto 8800s, these cards will perform well on DirectX 10.0 gaming - if you have the cash, I would recommend just squeezing it into the 640MB Edition (see below) to ensure that you can play them at good levels! Highly recommended to gamers on a good budget, and to those who don't want to upgrade for a while.

Review #1 (Trusted Reviews)


Recommended Power Supply (Single): 580W
Recommended Power Supply (SLi): 650W

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nVidia 8800GTS (640MB) : $380 - £230

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t143/leetkyle/8800gts_640.jpg

Preferred over the 320MB edition solely for the higher memory, this card should perform better at resolutions of over 1600x1200 compared to the 320MB edition. Highly recommended!

Review #1 (Driver Heaven)


Recommended Power Supply (Single): 585W
Recommended Power Supply (SLi): 660W

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nVidia 8800GTX : $550 - £360

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t143/leetkyle/8800gtx.jpg

Now, it's time for the queen. The 8800GTX will keep you in high level DirectX 10.0 gaming for quite a while yet! It's high price is, well, yes, high. Performance is only beaten by its older brother, which I'll get to in a minute. This card is highly recommended for any enthusiast.

Review #1 (VR-Zone)
Review #2 (XS Reviews)
Review #3 (Neoseeker)


Recommended Power Supply (Single): 620W
Recommended Power Supply (SLi): 750W


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nVidia 8800 Ultra : $670 - £450

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t143/leetkyle/8800ultra.jpg

The King. It's insanely pricey, it's insanely powerful, it is, insane. Boasting unbeatable architecture and performance, if you have this much cash and you really want to blow it all on a card, this is it. It is, in fact "god-like!"

Review #1 (Guru3D)
Review #2 (Hexus)


Recommended Power Supply (Single): 750W
Recommended Power Supply (SLi): 1200W


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ATi HD Radeon X2900XT : $410 - £250

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t143/leetkyle/x2900xt.jpg

The X2900 really shouldn't be bought. I had high expectations but it just doesn't beat even the 8800GTS 640MB, and it is more expensive. So, if you are in any way smart, and not a total die-hard fanboy, go with nVidia.

Review #1 (VR-Zone)


Recommended Power Supply (Single): 750W
Recommended Power Supply (SLi): 1200W


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.. so, that's about it! Do take this into consideration when purchasing a new card - I hope you enjoy reading it and finding out what card is best for you, be it price or performance!

- kyle.

Things you need to know:
I am in no way favouring either companies personally. As much as I love ATi, all of my reviews will be completely non-biased. Prices listed may not be the cheapest, it is just that 'newegg' and 'OcUK' are the easiest to navigate through! USD and GBP only. These reviews should be taken into consideration when buying a new card, but I hold no responsiblity for any errors in purchasing your graphics, and/or any type of failure.

This review may not be used without my authorization. Any stealers will be dealt with accordingly.

Last edited by leetkyle (2007-06-28 07:59:43)

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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What's the difference between single and SLI? Also good info.
Also does DX10 work on XP at all, or do you definately need Vista.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-06-08 15:04:05)

kylef
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Single = One Card
SLi = Two cards basically fixated together (not literally), giving much better performance
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6220|Escea

Ah, so when you buy SLI cards they're basically two cards?
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|6753|Scotland

Stickieeeeeeeeeeeed!

Unless you want it to be seen better, tell me please
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6491|N. Ireland
Yeah, most nVidia cards of the same model (new ones) can be put into SLi. Motherboards must allow SLi though! You are buying 2 physical cards, but 'all the graphics' go into the game you are playing etc.
Zimmer
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+1,688|6753|Scotland

M.O.A.B wrote:

What's the difference between single and SLI? Also good info.
Also does DX10 work on XP at all, or do you definately need Vista.
Yes it will work with XP fine. Just that Vista has already been integrated with DX10, so it will work BETTER with Vista. But you shouldn't worry about that.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|6841|Alberta, Canada

Nice thread man, I've been looking forward to something like this.
Too bad I didn't think of this

M.O.A.B wrote:

Ah, so when you buy SLI cards they're basically two cards?
Not necessarily. You buy an SLi-capable mobo and then you can use 2 or more video cards. You still have to buy the cards separately.
The cards have to be SLi capable too.

Last edited by Ryan (2007-06-08 15:08:58)

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6220|Escea

Neat thx guys.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-06-08 15:07:52)

RoosterCantrell
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M.O.A.B wrote:

Ah, so when you buy SLI cards they're basically two cards?
You buy ONE card and it goes in ONE slot, you can connect Two cards in Two slots on yoor motherboard via a small connector if you buy TWO cards seperate.  Thats SLI



If you look at the 8800 Ultra, I believe its capable of Quad SLI.

Two pairs of two cards.

I read an article about it.  rediculous.

( I could be wrong about THIS CARD but Quad SLI is out there or coming soon)
kylef
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To be very technical, it really is the cips that made SLi. I believe the 7950GX2 has 2 chips, so when you SLi them, you have 4 chips, making quad SLi.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6672|Florida, United States

RoosterCantrell wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Ah, so when you buy SLI cards they're basically two cards?
You buy ONE card and it goes in ONE slot, you can connect Two cards in Two slots on yoor motherboard via a small connector if you buy TWO cards seperate.  Thats SLI



If you look at the 8800 Ultra, I believe its capable of Quad SLI.

Two pairs of two cards.

I read an article about it.  rediculous.

( I could be wrong about THIS CARD but Quad SLI is out there or coming soon)
I've never even seen a mobo with 4 PCI-E ports.  That's insanely expensive.
Microwave
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Quad SLI - taking overkill to the next level.


Won't be used capability wise for a long time.
ghettoperson
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Kyle, where are you getting the figures for the PSU's from? Cause the numbers seem to jump around a lot.
kylef
Gone
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ghettoperson wrote:

Kyle, where are you getting the figures for the PSU's from? Cause the numbers seem to jump around a lot.
Most from pro-outervision. I had to take into account card + other data. as in, an 8500 will only use 100W or so, but with other components etc.. as listed from top of the post.
ghettoperson
Member
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leetkyle wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Kyle, where are you getting the figures for the PSU's from? Cause the numbers seem to jump around a lot.
Most from pro-outervision. I had to take into account card + other data. as in, an 8500 will only use 100W or so, but with other components etc.. as listed from top of the post.
I meant some of them with SLi seemed to go a little high. Oh well.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6491|N. Ireland

ghettoperson wrote:

I meant some of them with SLi seemed to go a little high. Oh well.
Note the recommended. Much better safe than sorry I guess. Certainly for 8600GTS upwards!
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6579|SE London

Zimmer wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

What's the difference between single and SLI? Also good info.
Also does DX10 work on XP at all, or do you definately need Vista.
Yes it will work with XP fine. Just that Vista has already been integrated with DX10, so it will work BETTER with Vista. But you shouldn't worry about that.
No. DX10 does NOT work in XP. It will never be officially supported by XP. There are 3rd party projects trying to make a DX10 API for XP, Wine (who made a version of DX for Linux) are doing one for example.

However, that will not prevent you from using any DX10 card in XP - but only running DX9c or lower. The new effects that are the main point of DX10 can be supported in XP using OpenGL stuff, but that's not of much use because games all use DX9/10.

You cannot run DX10 content in XP.
kylef
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Bertster7 wrote:

You cannot run DX10 content in XP.
I'm afraid he's right. Yet another reason to move to Vista, eh!? <3 mah ultimates edition
Microwave
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+515|6652|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK
Does anyone know to a point of near certainty whether you can use dx10 on xp?


I've heard both spoken as if they are the absolute truth....
kylef
Gone
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james@alienware wrote:

Does anyone know to a point of near certainty whether you can use dx10 on xp?


I've heard both spoken as if they are the absolute truth....
Man, read the post above you!
Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6200
Stay away from the 8500/8600 series.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6579|SE London

james@alienware wrote:

Does anyone know to a point of near certainty whether you can use dx10 on xp?


I've heard both spoken as if they are the absolute truth....
I know, with absolute and definite certainty, that DX10 is for Vista only.

It may be possible to run DX10 content on XP at some point, but never officially.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6579|SE London

leetkyle wrote:

james@alienware wrote:

Does anyone know to a point of near certainty whether you can use dx10 on xp?


I've heard both spoken as if they are the absolute truth....
Man, read the post above you!
Maybe put it in big bold letters in the OP?
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6491|N. Ireland

Bertster7 wrote:

Maybe put it in big bold letters in the OP?
good idea..

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