BF2S Forums Racism is Invading the Forum

golgoj4 wrote:

Cougar wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:

No, a real man isn't one who has to hide in the hole of ignorance because he is either too stupid or too scared to leave. But have fun in there.

Are you trying to say that you hate no one?  At all?  There is no 1 group of people that you can't stand?  No category of people that annoy you?  At all?  Period?

fine. you got me. eskimoes. those fuckers club baby seals and thats just wrong. But seriously, No, i don't have any GROUP of people. Waste of time. Everyone is not the same, especially in the states. So its just fucking dumb IMO to lump everyone together. I make my call on an asshat by asshat basis. There are plenty of those in L.a., I don't need to single out a particular group. Maybe thats what you need. Assholes of all races in your hometown...
So yes, I dont have to hate any group of people categorically because I fear them for some mysterious reason. I DO hate the cocksucker on his cell phone in the fast lane on the 710 freeway when im trying to get somewhere, no matter what he looked like.

You hate racists.

Welcome to Prejudiceville.  Population - You.

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The truth of it is we all generalize. It is human. Our brain revolves around our own personal experience and what we have seen for ourselves. Should we make the effort to try and comprehend that there are things beyond that? Certainly. That does not change the fact that everyone pre-judges everything that involves the use of their brain. This is not limited to judging races or people. If we did not "prejudge" Man would have never learned to stop putting his hand in an open flame. Humans would have never understood that when they see a lion they had better get the fuck out of there. We are all prejudice, the only difference between us is the willingness to accept more of what we have not personally experienced or have been taught. Anyone who tells you otherwise is not being honest with you or themselves, and that is more dangerous than those who are open with their feelings.

I said prejudice, and there is nothing good about it.

Interpersonal hostility that is directed against individuals based on their membership in a minority group.  When this definition is applied, prejudice generally refers to existing biases toward the members of such groups, often based on social stereotypes; and at its most extreme, results in groups being denied life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness or, conversely, unfairly showing unwarranted favor towards others.

"Good" or "bad" does not exist in the subconscious.

I thought this was the Realm of Consciousness.

I guess what I am trying to say is that prejudice is nothing "negative" per se. As far as I am concerned, it can be both, good or bad. For example, if I was assuming that Sergeriver is a nice, friendly person, then I am obviously prejudging him without knowing all the facts, based solely on the little information I have gathered from the few comments he has made on this forum.

I could very well be wrong with that assessment i.e. prejudice, although I doubt it.
But since I don't know Serge very well, or rather, I really don't know him at all, all I can do is prejudge.
Nothing wrong with that, huh ?

The definition of "prejudice", as Serge brought it up from wikipedia, is therefore a little bit misleading, as it concentrates only on the "negative" aspects of prejudice, as exemplified in the same article:

wikipedia wrote:

For the purposes of this article, which is examining prejudice within a single, overarching, theoretical framework, it is important to define the word as follows: Interpersonal hostility that is directed against individuals based on their membership in a minority group

In other words, the wikipedia article from which serge quoted, specifically defined prejudice in a certain way, to suit a pre-formulated cause.

From the same article:

wikipedia wrote:

This is different from viewpoints accumulated though direct life experience, which are neither prejudiced, conditioned or necessarily instinctive: they are not pre-judgments but post-judgments. Some argue that all politically based views stem from a lack of sufficient life experience; this, however, provokes the question of how much life experience is required before a point of view is no longer regarded as prejudiced. If no amount of experience entitles a person to a viewpoint - if every is biased - then there can be no objectivity. Judgements based on experience may, however, be coloured by prejudice. One might imagine a continuum from "prejudiced" to "based on experience," with many, if not most, views coming somewhere between the two extremes.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice

To me, prejudice is essentially neutral.

Sergeriver wrote:

This is not about PC, it's about having good values.

hm, that's a tricky one. As you know, values vary in time, they change, and they are often very different in different cultures or sub-cultures. In the end, what it comes down to is if you believe that there is a fixed set of eternal values, that apply to everyone and everything, over all times. I'd say that's questionable at best.

Personally, I believe I have good values, but I am also realistic. Different people believe different things.
Who am I to tell others what is good or bad ? That's what religions do, and that hasn't turned out very well, has it ?

I'm not a racist, I hate everyone equally.

Bubbalo wrote:

Australia, however, has had neither a civil war nor a genocide, but then Australia was started by the Brits who historically were murderous bastards, so I hardly think that counts.

Ahem:

http://www.australian-news.com.au/Aboriginal.htm
Aboriginal genocide had its beginning with Federal Liberal Party member William Wentworth's private members bill to amend the Constitution to remove the prohibition on the commonwealth making "special laws" relating to "the Aboriginal race".

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/sep19 … -s07.shtml
The genocidal practices perpetrated against Australian Aborigines were the outcome of policies adopted and implemented by all Australian governments from British settlement in 1788 until the present. A people who had virtually no contact with the outside world, were suddenly confronted with a hostile and alien force. Aborigines were forced out of their traditional homes, hunted like wild animals, poisoned or shot, and confined to the harshest and most desolate climes. The effect of British settlement upon these people led to near extinction within 120 years.

B.Schuss wrote:

I guess what I am trying to say is that prejudice is nothing "negative" per se. As far as I am concerned, it can be both, good or bad. For example, if I was assuming that Sergeriver is a nice, friendly person, then I am obviously prejudging him without knowing all the facts, based solely on the little information I have gathered from the few comments he has made on this forum.

I could very well be wrong with that assessment i.e. prejudice, although I doubt it.
But since I don't know Serge very well, or rather, I really don't know him at all, all I can do is prejudge.
Nothing wrong with that, huh ?

Thanks for your "prejudice".  Much obliged.  In this case you are assuming things (having a prejudice) in a positive way.  But prejudice can have a very negative meaning.  And that is what I'm talking about.  Many people have strong prejudice against Muslim people just coz a few extremists blow themselves and throw rockets into Israel.  But that kind of generalization is a bad prejudice.  Most Muslims are good people (positive prejudice).  The difference is that a positive prejudice can lead you to wrong conclusions, and the negative prejudice can spread the hate.

Good to see that you guys finally figured out the difference between racism and prejudice.

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Good to see that you guys finally figured out the difference between racism and prejudice.

Racism is a racial prejudice.

Cougar wrote:

Reading these forums lately has been like scratching my dick with a cheese grater.

You seem to have expertise in the field.

sergeriver wrote:

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Good to see that you guys finally figured out the difference between racism and prejudice.

Racism is a racial prejudice.

Well yes and no.

Racism is hate for someone based on their race, and often racists have prejudice towards the people they hate (like Nazis saying Jews are greedy). While prejudice is "pre-judging" people, and can be based on anything, you can have prejudice towards someone without hating them.

sergeriver:

If someone makes a comment about a Muslim , that snot considered a racism. I believe your scum bag teacher forgot to tell you that.

And as far as Muslims go, I believe the large portion of them(Muslims) are like sheeple. They never speak up and they only protest Death to the West.  Worst of all,they do NOT want to conform to your laws but only their 7th century laws. As far as am concerned.....Fuck em...!   Keep in mind . I only said most of them not all of them.

Pigskinn

Last edited by Pigskinn (2007-05-07 18:17:06)

I only speak the truth as i see it.
When was the last time you have seen a Muslim counter  protest against radical islom fascist pigs.  Please answer that question forme? ,,,,Please en lighting me.

Since we are on the topic of Facts.Is it true that shera law has been introduce within England  - so England can happy live with a 7th century law within a 21st century society.  I'm i wrong on that one too?

Last edited by Pigskinn (2007-05-07 18:40:31)

Well it won't be too hard to implement sharia law. They all have Ak's from birth, and you have is an uppity attitude to fight with.....lolz...