nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6325|New Haven, CT

blademaster wrote:

1.)According to your sources or experience serving in army, which infantry would dominate the rest?
2.)What makes any military units so skilled, toughness, skills, intelligence or something else?
3.) if  WW3 broke out, and you were drafted to go war, would you give your life for your country or run like a bitch?
4.) If you were forced to serve in military would you still serve?

5.)If you were to rebel against going to the army and your only chance to stay alive was to get tortured? would you still go to the war, and be exposed to some horrific stuff which would make you mentally unstable for the rest of your life.
1. U.S. Marines.

2. Training and intelligence (both brains and knowledge of combat arena) are the major factors which make the Marines the best. Obviously then, this is the answer.

3. I wouldn't give my life for my country. Patton, of course summed it up best.

4. I would fly.

5. How bad would the torture be?
KuSTaV
noice
+947|6513|Gold Coast
1. There are many, as France has some good equipment, training and is basically the UN, they have support for it too. The USMC is particularly good, but I say that they could have better training. China has the numbers in their army, as someone said. And the Aussies just own everyone else. No bias, but from what Ive heard from the regs at the army camp in Brisbane they say that the SAS guys are crazy, theyll do something that even the toughest soldier would not, E.g. (I think) HALO jumps from planes, you think of some crazy shit and they probably have done it. The regs are also good as they have excellent training. Everyone is tought first aid and can basically be a medic, but to the extent of basic field injury. They also navigate, and have to put up with 40+ degree celcius heat in some areas.

2. As I said, the training of the soldiers.

3. I would fight, but too much FPS guarantees I survive .

4. I would go and serve. I might end up joining the regular Aussie army when Im done with Uni.

5. Gimme my gun.
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Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6440|King Of The Islands

fadedsteve wrote:

Oh yea Australian Marines are also a very good infantry outfit as well. . .

Top four in a biased order lol

1. US Marines
2. British Royal Marines
3. Australian Marines
4. IDF
Australian Marines? WTF?
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
LostFate
Same shit, Different Arsehole
+95|6487|England
Well i would say personally that all european armies are better trained than the USMC

Royal Marine Commandos mabe? but no i would say The Parachute regiment simply because there all crazy bastards.

i'm joining (The Yorkshire Regiment) myself so yeah there obviously best

My platoon sergent went for sas selection he told me about it says its the hardest most difficult thing hes ever done hes from the Welsh Guards para platoon and trust me hes a hardnut motherfucker (he failed )   

He's goin back next year


SAS the best special forces in the world , a regiment in the Best army in the world.

Last edited by LostFate (2007-04-12 18:21:28)

Superglueman
Member
+21|6361|The Great South Land

bubbass wrote:

blademaster wrote:

3.) ...would you give your life for your country?
Absolutely.

blademaster wrote:

4.) If you were forced to serve in military would you still serve?
Absolutely. I'd enlist right now if I wasn't almost finished with college.
...and becoming a greedy business owner who treats his employees bad,doesnt pay tax, and hates the poor
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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I don't really know. I know that the top five are definitely  US, UK, Germany, France, and Israel but I don't know which order exactly.
Superglueman
Member
+21|6361|The Great South Land

paranoid101 wrote:

I would say the British Infantry (I know I'm biased), but for what they do with the lack of funding and equipment is fantastic and for just scare the shit out of your enemy its got to be the Gurkha's, not many things scared the Japanese in WW2 but the Gurkha's were one of them that did, I just really glad that the my government has finally given them full pensions.
As soon as i saw this thread i thought "Gurkha's!"...

...this guys right, i think they are known as cunning soldiers....with their  ol' Gurkha Curi's..which i think are machete/blade type weapons...

Where are they from, does anyone know...im guessing India?
XanKrieger
iLurk
+60|6660|South West England

blademaster wrote:

1.)According to your sources or experience serving in army, which infantry would dominate the rest?
2.)What makes any military units so skilled, toughness, skills, intelligence or something else?
3.) if  WW3 broke out, and you were drafted to go war, would you give your life for your country or run like a bitch?
4.) If you were forced to serve in military would you still serve?

5.)If you were to rebel against going to the army and your only chance to stay alive was to get tortured? would you still go to the war, and be exposed to some horrific stuff which would make you mentally unstable for the rest of your life.
1. Royal Marine Commandoes

2. History and the Training techniques from that history

3. I'd fight if the war was for the right cause, else i'd neglect

4. Yes

5. I'd go anyways, might as well go than be tortured, theres nothing a war wouldnt do to my mind that i havent done to myself already
Superglueman
Member
+21|6361|The Great South Land

KuSTaV wrote:

1. There are many, as France has some good equipment, training and is basically the UN, they have support for it too. The USMC is particularly good, but I say that they could have better training. China has the numbers in their army, as someone said. And the Aussies just own everyone else. No bias, but from what Ive heard from the regs at the army camp in Brisbane they say that the SAS guys are crazy, theyll do something that even the toughest soldier would not, E.g. (I think) HALO jumps from planes, you think of some crazy shit and they probably have done it. The regs are also good as they have excellent training. Everyone is tought first aid and can basically be a medic, but to the extent of basic field injury. They also navigate, and have to put up with 40+ degree celcius heat in some areas.

2. As I said, the training of the soldiers.

3. I would fight, but too much FPS guarantees I survive .

4. I would go and serve. I might end up joining the regular Aussie army when Im done with Uni.

5. Gimme my gun.
Rofl..how many bullshitters said they would "maybe when i finish Uni"
...oh yeah, u wont become the lawyer,doctor,politician,psyciatrist..etc...u'll join the army and get killed....yeah right..

The answer to how many would fight is how many are disenfranchised at the time...they are the only ones who'll go....the majority of western people have comfortable lives and ambitions and will find every excuse why "THEY" cant go.... besides, few really "believe" in western culture except the media(and their all homos)
Superglueman
Member
+21|6361|The Great South Land
China will win....







they have the J-10's
UnknownRanger
Squirrels, natures little speedbump.
+610|6346|Cali

blademaster wrote:

gCASEy200 wrote:

4.) If you were forced to serve in military would you still serve?
your an idiot.
stfu you pussy you would prob. run like a little bitch, stop crying and bitching about your pathetic life
/anger management?
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6711|England. Stoke

Superglueman wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:

I would say the British Infantry (I know I'm biased), but for what they do with the lack of funding and equipment is fantastic and for just scare the shit out of your enemy its got to be the Gurkha's, not many things scared the Japanese in WW2 but the Gurkha's were one of them that did, I just really glad that the my government has finally given them full pensions.
As soon as i saw this thread i thought "Gurkha's!"...

...this guys right, i think they are known as cunning soldiers....with their  ol' Gurkha Curi's..which i think are machete/blade type weapons...

Where are they from, does anyone know...im guessing India?
Nepal mainly.
And British troops are by far the best trained in the world, particularly the SAS, SBS, Royal Marines and the Parachute Regiment, oh and that new special forces recon regiment (cant remember exactly what they called).

Last edited by coke (2007-04-12 19:04:46)

77th|JonesMR
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+2|6264

Drakef wrote:

1.)According to your sources or experience serving in army, which infantry would dominate the rest?  I do not have the knowledge, nor do I particularly care.

2.)What makes any military units so skilled, toughness, skills, intelligence or something else? I assume experience and skill, but again, I would not claim to argue over something I know nothing about.

3.) if  WW3 broke out, and you were drafted to go war, would you give your life for your country or run like a bitch?  No, I would not serve, particularly if drafted.

4.) If you were forced to serve in military would you still serve?  As a conscientious objector, no, I would not serve if drafted.

5.)If you were to rebel against going to the army and your only chance to stay alive was to get tortured? would you still go to the war, and be exposed to some horrific stuff which would make you mentally unstable for the rest of your life.  Do you mean that my country would torture me for refusing to serve? I would rather that than serve in the military.
I find it rather interesting that there exists a conscientious objector who is a practiced Battlefield 2 player possessing a kill to death ratio much better than mine.  The primary part of being a conscientious objector is that military service violates ones conscience.  I would think that if violence went against someones conscience, one would not participate in it, even in make-believe.  This leads me to believe that the above cited individual is politically motivated, is not willing to place himself in harm's way, or is simply too lazy to serve as opposed to having a conflict that stems from conscience.  But I digress . . .

1).  I have the utmost respect for all of the US infantry forces (Army of all varieties and Marines).  Soldiers from the Republic of Korea have also earned my respect.  I briefly observed Soldiers from Australia, Britain, and Estonia as well, but could not make an informed comparison of "how they stack up" compared to US and ROK forces.

2).  The number one quality you need in any military unit is a warrior spirit.  When you boil it down, all armies exist to kill people and break things when a government fails to get what it wants and really wants it.  An interesting fact about current US forces is that they are all volunteers (no mandatory service required, no draft in place).  Somewhere, deep down, everyone in the US military wants to be there.

3).  I like to think about it like Patton did:  make the other guy die for his country.  I already serve and do it without reservation.

4).  Hard to say.  I chose this lifestyle; no one forced it on me.

5).  I was lucky and did not have to kick down any doors, encounter another man, face to face, and decide whether or not I needed to take action that may end his life.  I, along with many others, paid honors to men and women who did that and did not make it home.  I don't think I'm mentally unstable, but I couldn't tell you how I would be on the other end of it.
Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|6778|UK
RM's & USMC
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6763

Milk.org wrote:

RM's & USMC
Yep.  Put those two on a mission together.......................forget about.  The enemy would not stand a chance.
Desolater
Member
+13|6228|Maryland, USA
Marines take the cake, just in shear numbers and equipment if by nothing else (even though they would kick as 1:1 ratio).
-101-InvaderZim
Member
+42|6845|Waikato, Aotearoa
hmmz - NZSAS for sure.

NZ Army are the best light infantry in the world. Understated, quiet and get the job done. Dont feel the need
to proclaim to the world how good they are - just let their actions speak for themselves.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6407|North Carolina

blademaster wrote:

1.)According to your sources or experience serving in army, which infantry would dominate the rest?
2.)What makes any military units so skilled, toughness, skills, intelligence or something else?
3.) if  WW3 broke out, and you were drafted to go war, would you give your life for your country or run like a bitch?
4.) If you were forced to serve in military would you still serve?

5.)If you were to rebel against going to the army and your only chance to stay alive was to get tortured? would you still go to the war, and be exposed to some horrific stuff which would make you mentally unstable for the rest of your life.
1. I'm guessing us.
2. We spend so much on training and equipment that I would hope that our soldiers are the best.
3. Fuck no...  I'd run like a bitch to Canada -- unless it was a World War, and then I'd just go with the flow.
4. Only if this was a society wide policy, where everyone of age had to serve a term in the military or in the World War scenario.
5. I'd take service over torture any day.  I'd rather be the torturer than the tortured.
yuckfou09
hide your terrorists ^,^
+94|6678|Ft. Drum, NY
so far i've noticed that 99.8% of people are just saying their countries armies. I would have to say as of now the legion has a tough training regiment but my vote would have to go with the Royal marines. But dont get me wrong, USMC is damn tough I just picked the RM's cause i didnt want to pick from my country. US Army is only good for relieving those marines. lol
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6722|California

I don't think special forces are considered "infantry"...

If we are talking about best Special Forces, SAS wins.
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6488|Melbourne

1: Australian Army (ARA)
2: Leadership, Quick Thinking, Equipment & Moral
3: Yes, Currently Joining the ARA now.
4: Yes.
5: Would fight, anyway.
~ Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
77th|JonesMR
Member
+2|6264

stryyker wrote:

I don't think special forces are considered "infantry"...If we are talking about best Special Forces, SAS wins.
Well, anyone who straps on 100+ pounds on their back and moves over 20 kilometers in four hours deep in enemy territory with only one meal a day (at best) is a pretty hooah (oorah for all the Marines out there) infantryman in my book.  I think special operation forces from just about any country does intense training like that.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6552|CH/BR - in UK

blademaster wrote:

1.)According to your sources or experience serving in army, which infantry would dominate the rest?
The USA Marines, probably (as much as it hurts to admit that)
2.)What makes any military units so skilled, toughness, skills, intelligence or something else?
Spontaneous reacting, intuitiveness, taking the initiative, and as said above, equipment and morale
3.) if  WW3 broke out, and you were drafted to go war, would you give your life for your country or run like a bitch?
I'm swiss... Swiss-Brazilian, that is - and I can't imagine Brazil in a World War.
4.) If you were forced to serve in military would you still serve?
I have to do military service for Switzerland. So - I guess.
5.)If you were to rebel against going to the army and your only chance to stay alive was to get tortured? would you still go to the war, and be exposed to some horrific stuff which would make you mentally unstable for the rest of your life.
I'd rather kill than be killed (or tortured) - survival instinct.

-konfusion
pj666
Member
+16|6367|Sydney, Australia
There is no such unit as the Australian Marines. The USMC is a 4th branch of the US forces, separate to the Army, Navy and Air Force. Australia only has those 3. We have Royal Marine Commandos, who are a small specialist recon, pathfinder assault unit, much like the British version. For the US, think Rangers with more SEAL than parachuting.

"The best" comes down to training, professionalism, and "warrior spirit" like someone says. Units that are willing to die for each other tend to hang tough, and win. If you run for the hills before fighting for your buddy, your unit will break and run in any real fight.

Whether they are volunteers affects this. Conscript armies tend to be full of people that don't want to be there. They can still produce good figthers, but it is a factor that has to be overcome. Th performance of Australian conscript reserve units on the Kokoda campaign in WW2 is an example, but they did regard themselves as the last line of defence which tends to bring the best out of even reserve troops.

Australian infantry are, from regular to SAS, regarded as amongst the best in the world. This isn't just me being jingoistic. This is feedback from other militaries world wide. American COs in Afghanistan are said they want more Asutralian SAS when asked who they would take more of. Rommel is WW2 is reputed to have said if he could ;pick an Allied unit to have, it would be the Australian troops he was fighting. The infamous Rats of Tobruk. Go research that on Wikipedia.

With no disrespect to US forces, some regular infantry will be there because the Army is a leg up from a poor background. Therefore, they won't be the best material. However, training tends to weed people out, and those that go on to "better" units will by definition be the better soldiers. The "war on terror" for the last 6 years has probably put some of these people off joining up, beause of the guarantee you will have to fight, rather than just get an education.

The British army is regarded as having probably the best overall "professional" army in the world. They have extensive experience in urban fighting, and dealing with "insurgency", from 30 years of Northern Ireland.

Assuming you pick a "regular" infantry unit to take on a similar unit from elsewhere in the world, in an even situation with limited or no support (i.e. the US overwhleming firepower, or Chinese overwhelming numbers,  won't play), I'll take the Poms.

France? What were you thinking?!?!?!?!?!!?
Drakef
Cheeseburger Logicist
+117|6363|Vancouver

77th|JonesMR wrote:

Drakef wrote:

1.)According to your sources or experience serving in army, which infantry would dominate the rest?  I do not have the knowledge, nor do I particularly care.

2.)What makes any military units so skilled, toughness, skills, intelligence or something else? I assume experience and skill, but again, I would not claim to argue over something I know nothing about.

3.) if  WW3 broke out, and you were drafted to go war, would you give your life for your country or run like a bitch?  No, I would not serve, particularly if drafted.

4.) If you were forced to serve in military would you still serve?  As a conscientious objector, no, I would not serve if drafted.

5.)If you were to rebel against going to the army and your only chance to stay alive was to get tortured? would you still go to the war, and be exposed to some horrific stuff which would make you mentally unstable for the rest of your life.  Do you mean that my country would torture me for refusing to serve? I would rather that than serve in the military.
I find it rather interesting that there exists a conscientious objector who is a practiced Battlefield 2 player possessing a kill to death ratio much better than mine.  The primary part of being a conscientious objector is that military service violates ones conscience.  I would think that if violence went against someones conscience, one would not participate in it, even in make-believe.  This leads me to believe that the above cited individual is politically motivated, is not willing to place himself in harm's way, or is simply too lazy to serve as opposed to having a conflict that stems from conscience.  But I digress . . .
Battlefield 2 has nothing to do with actual violence. It is a game, a contest.

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