BF2S Forums UK sailors captured at gunpoint by Iran

Braddock wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

I say they send in the Royal Marines to rescue them, then bomb the piss out of Iran.

You have serious delusions regarding how much America can take on its plate militarily. Hitler had similar delusions when he took on Russia.

I said Royal Marines. 


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Braddock wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

I said Royal Marines.

You think Britain's going to act without American help?

They did in the Falklands.

They'll be returned within 48 hours no doubt. Just some posturing on Iran's behalf, nothing to get excited about.

usmarine2007 wrote:

Yawn.

Good comeback, I can't top that.

RicardoBlanco wrote:

They'll be returned within 48 hours no doubt. Just some posturing on Iran's behalf, nothing to get excited about.

Maybe not 48 hours (it's a weekend and a religious holiday in the Islamic calendar) but I agree it's nothing to get excited about and will be resolved soon I think.

usmarine2007 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

SoC./Omega wrote:

I think Iran is asking for a war......

Either that or it's asking for the soldiers of theirs that the US and UK kidnapped...

If I didn't know any better, I would say you are justifying this event.

If someone kindaps your soldiers then imo that is just cause for retaliation. An eye for an eye.

Try thinking about it from their perspective...........

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-23 07:56:49)

I wonder if Iran waited to do this after Ahmadinejad got his Visa.


I guess it's time we send in the Spartans.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-23 08:24:22)

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

In order to protect the 15 captured Brits, US and UK should negotiate with Iran and exchange prisoners.  Their safety is the most important issue here.  Let's hope this ends without problems.

That sounds like a page out of the Palestinians book.

Yuppers, Iran is just buying time, again, to avoid the UN sanctions. How could the UN unanimously vote for sanctions if one of its members was at war with them? Remember the Prussians (the Iranians') created the game of chess. It will be very planned out, if this was to be the start of something militarily; Iran know that the UK & US have so many distracting domestic issues at this moment.

Braddock wrote:

You have serious delusions regarding how much America can take on its plate militarily. Hitler had similar delusions when he took on Russia.

I find it utterly amazing with some of the peoples of the internets, trying to put out there their own assessments of US Department of Defense capabilities. OK maybe not amazing, just utterly moronic. By the way, how did you come to that conclusion? BBC,NBC, CNN Intl., New York Time, etc.??

JahManRed wrote:

Iran will probably claim they were in Iranian waters and the UK will say otherwise, they will release them within a week. Its just a publicity stunt to show the Iranians and their allies that the British/American army can be taken on and overwhelmed. Even if the numbers were unbalanced.

I agree that it is just publicity. It is important to try and instill confidence when the entire world is comming down on you.

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

Remember the Prussians (the Iranians') created the game of chess.

Prussians? They were German, what do they have to do with this?

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Either that or it's asking for the soldiers of theirs that the US and UK kidnapped...

If I didn't know any better, I would say you are justifying this event.

If someone kindaps your soldiers then imo that is just cause for retaliation. An eye for an eye.

Try thinking about it from their perspective...........

Yeah just like the Israelis did when some of their troops were captured....

coke wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

If I didn't know any better, I would say you are justifying this event.

If someone kindaps your soldiers then imo that is just cause for retaliation. An eye for an eye.

Try thinking about it from their perspective...........

Yeah just like the Israelis did when some of their troops were captured....

Eye for an eye sounds like the beginning of a nonstop cycle of violence to me.

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

Remember the Prussians (the Iranians') created the game of chess.

Prussians? They were German, what do they have to do with this?

OK I stand corrected, I misspoke. It was the Persians, not Prussians. Thank you.

LOLtastic!

erm,letsget a ferw facts straight. the captured sailors were doing a legitimate inspection of a merchant vessel suspected of smuggling cars (I don't know if the search bncovered any cars). in IRAQI waters. not Iranian. then they were surrounded by IRANIAN ships. and forcibly taken prisoner and escorted into Iranian waters. in 2004, apparently ( I don't know the facts) the sailors were in Iranian waters, in which case iran had every right to capture them due to self defense. but in 2007, the soldiers were in iraqi waters. thus, if iran doesn't return the soldiers promptly, it is an act of war.and the US has little choice about helping Britain in a defensive war, due to NATO. the Falklands war was Britain defending a crown dependency, which did not trigger NATO. whereas, if the Iranians press this, then it is an act of war against the UK proper, which would trigger the NATO treaty, as it would have been an act of war against a member state,  not to mention the commonwealth would PROBABLY send soldiers to help ( as it did in the two world wars) and then it would be Iran V half the world. remember, this was in riaqi waters, not iranian. you now what has happened? the Iranian ambassador was summoned by the foreign secretary. the UK government is right pissed off over this. also, the Iranians have managed to unify the parties into supporting one cause. they are ALL demanding the release of the sailors and ALL equipment seized UNHARMED. as in, the sailors and equipment must not be harmed at all (i.e. they cant' return the sailors with any body parts hacked off). this is serious. if this is a publicity stunt, then they have messed it up.  as they have given a legitimate reason for war with iran. and if they are hoping china will help them avoid any sanctions in the security council ( the UK troops were apparently authorised to be there by the security council, no i can't quote the resolution) then they are likely to see just how bad things can get. as China isn't likely to stand for this, given it was an attack on foreign soil against soldiers carrying out legitimate orders in a place they are in legitimately, and were not a threat to the iranians. and CameronPoe, the only iranian soldiers that have bene taken prisoner by the US have been in iraq, i believe, trying to support the insurgency. thus, taking them prisoner is in fact legitimate, as thye posed a threat to US forces. while this was apparently not an act of self-defense, but an act of war.