sidneysmut
Banned
+13|7018
My wife has the option to study for an MBA at Lancaster University in England (apparently the fourth best MBA in the UK, 28th in the world and number one for value for money, apparently!)

Now, to be perfectly honest, we are broke. I'm just finishing my teacher training course and she isn't working either. Perfectly, I would want us both to get start graduate jobs in September so financially we would be comfortable. However, we could just probably scrape through on my salary... just.

So, the question is, what are the benefits of her studying an MBA? Bear in mind we would have to get a loan to cover some of the cost of the course (approx 18500 pounds), so finanically, lifestyle, her career, etc, what are the benefits? And perhaps, if you could, what are the flaws/problems to her studying this course, excluding the financial implications?

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio
I was damn near broke for years getting all the knowledge and licenses in aviation that I could.  Now I am helping to start (close to launching) a brand new airline.

Do it.
pers0nah
Waste Kid
+271|7009|MANCHESTERRR

usmarine2007 wrote:

I was damn near broke for years getting all the knowledge and licenses in aviation that I could.  Now I am helping to start (close to launching) a brand new airline.

Do it.
Sorry? What do you mean by a brand new airline, Mr IfimthinkingrightyoucouldbethenextRichardBranson?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina
I'm looking at getting an MBA myself.  Good luck with your wife getting one. 

Considering what you've said about Lancaster, it sounds like you've definitely chosen the right school.

I agree that she should go for it.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

pers0nah wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

I was damn near broke for years getting all the knowledge and licenses in aviation that I could.  Now I am helping to start (close to launching) a brand new airline.

Do it.
Sorry? What do you mean by a brand new airline, Mr IfimthinkingrightyoucouldbethenextRichardBranson?
An airline that is not certified...but about to be.  = new

Funny you mention Branson.  We are taking two of his Virgin America planes.

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-02-23 15:52:57)

-=raska=-
Canada's French Frog
+123|7052|Quebec city, Canada
It depends on what is her main sector. For example, if shes already studied in engineering, then an MBA, to go up in the company could be usefull. However some employers decide to pay for the MBA studies of the employee, once he has already worked a few years and if the employer trusts him to be a good administrator for example.

But Ive seen some cases where engineers became president of their company without an MBA or any administration courses. Some employers prefer to choose a guy who has got experience in his company instead of choosing someone who has an MBA but has no experience.

IMO, taking MBA courses is a good thing, but once the concerned has already a stable career.

I would suggest that the benefits of an MBA are not worth it for your case.

edit : I have only talked about someone whose sector is completely different, and that wants to go up in the company. It really depends...

Last edited by -=raska=- (2007-02-23 15:57:12)

sidneysmut
Banned
+13|7018
yeah, okay, you may think she should go for it, but why though? does anyone have any stats, for example, about the difference an MBA can make to someone's career? Etc.
pers0nah
Waste Kid
+271|7009|MANCHESTERRR

usmarine2007 wrote:

pers0nah wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

I was damn near broke for years getting all the knowledge and licenses in aviation that I could.  Now I am helping to start (close to launching) a brand new airline.

Do it.
Sorry? What do you mean by a brand new airline, Mr IfimthinkingrightyoucouldbethenextRichardBranson?
An airline that is not certified...but about to be.  = new

Funny you mention Branson.  We are taking two of his Virgin America planes.
Any ideas for names yet?
sidneysmut
Banned
+13|7018

-=raska=- wrote:

IMO, taking MBA courses is a good thing, but once the concerned has already a stable career.
she has had a stable career with a major company but does not work for that company anymore.
-=raska=-
Canada's French Frog
+123|7052|Quebec city, Canada

sidneysmut wrote:

yeah, okay, you may think she should go for it, but why though? does anyone have any stats, for example, about the difference an MBA can make to someone's career? Etc.
imo, experience within a company > MBA

Last edited by -=raska=- (2007-02-23 16:01:23)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina
http://www.princetonreview.com/mba/rese … code=20850

Check this link out...  it's a good starting point.
sidneysmut
Banned
+13|7018

-=raska=- wrote:

sidneysmut wrote:

yeah, okay, you may think she should go for it, but why though? does anyone have any stats, for example, about the difference an MBA can make to someone's career? Etc.
imo, experience within a company > MBA
and if she already has experience, ample experience, but is now looking for a change to advance her career?
sidneysmut
Banned
+13|7018

Turquoise wrote:

http://www.princetonreview.com/mba/research/articles/decide/readyMBA.asp?adcode=20850

Check this link out...  it's a good starting point.
cheers!

going to bed now. but if people can leave their thoughts and i will catch up tomorrow.

thanks for all your quick input so far. keep your thoughts coming. all are appreciated.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

pers0nah wrote:

Any ideas for names yet?
One of Branson's former birds..

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1155108/L/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skybus_Airlines

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-02-23 16:12:49)

-=raska=-
Canada's French Frog
+123|7052|Quebec city, Canada

sidneysmut wrote:

-=raska=- wrote:

sidneysmut wrote:

yeah, okay, you may think she should go for it, but why though? does anyone have any stats, for example, about the difference an MBA can make to someone's career? Etc.
imo, experience within a company > MBA
and if she already has experience, ample experience, but is now looking for a change to advance her career?
whats her main "sector" (damn cant figure out how to say it in english... you know I mean her original studies... lol) ?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina

-=raska=- wrote:

sidneysmut wrote:

-=raska=- wrote:


imo, experience within a company > MBA
and if she already has experience, ample experience, but is now looking for a change to advance her career?
whats her main "sector" (damn cant figure out how to say it in english... you know I mean her original studies... lol) ?
Sector works...  "field" is also used in this context.
-=raska=-
Canada's French Frog
+123|7052|Quebec city, Canada
yes "field" thank you that was the word I was looking for.. why not some karma
ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6901|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND

usmarine2007 wrote:

pers0nah wrote:

Any ideas for names yet?
One of Branson's former birds..

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1155108/L/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skybus_Airlines
How can you afford these planes?

And also most airlines go bust after their 1st year in business, so good luck dude
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

ELITE-UK wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

pers0nah wrote:

Any ideas for names yet?
One of Branson's former birds..

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1155108/L/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skybus_Airlines
How can you afford these planes?

And also most airlines go bust after their 1st year in business, so good luck dude
I know.  Been there before.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7098|UK

sidneysmut wrote:

My wife has the option to study for an MBA at Lancaster University in England (apparently the fourth best MBA in the UK, 28th in the world and number one for value for money, apparently!)

Now, to be perfectly honest, we are broke. I'm just finishing my teacher training course and she isn't working either. Perfectly, I would want us both to get start graduate jobs in September so financially we would be comfortable. However, we could just probably scrape through on my salary... just.

So, the question is, what are the benefits of her studying an MBA? Bear in mind we would have to get a loan to cover some of the cost of the course (approx 18500 pounds), so finanically, lifestyle, her career, etc, what are the benefits? And perhaps, if you could, what are the flaws/problems to her studying this course, excluding the financial implications?

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
If you are both recent graduates as you seem to imply, then the MBA is pointless.  Employers look for a number of years work experience before one undertakes a MBA.  In fact i think it's irresponsible for a leading institution like Lancaster to offer a MBA to a relative new graduate.

LBS look for 5, Warwick look for 3 etc.  After my bachelors i applied to do an MBA (Durham University Business School) and after the stopped laughing at me they informed me i was better suited to the MA in Management.  There you have it, first hand experience.

Get a job, make some money, pay off your debts, then think about an MBA i.e. get your future employer to pay for your it, as your should have progressed to a reasonable senior role for a MBA to be beneficial at the juncture in time.

Last edited by m3thod (2007-02-23 16:23:21)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
nonexistentusmc
Member
+26|6872|Queens, NYC
As mentioned above, field is the biggest factor when it comes to furthering your education level. Certain job requirements will require certain levels of degrees in certain subjects, and some jobs will require certain levels of experience, and some jobs will require both. A friend of mine has no high school diploma, she dropped out, but she's worked ever since she was 15 years old, living on her own(no parents, no family). No, she's not a hooker or stripper. She now works in an office, making 60K a year, all because of experience. I on the other hand have some college done, no degree yet, and the Reserves, but with no working experience, so I only make 25K a year. So, it all depends on what you're going for. No one wants to hire a person holding a masters but doesn't know what to do when the sh!t hits the fan due to lack of work experience. Books aren't everything.
pers0nah
Waste Kid
+271|7009|MANCHESTERRR

usmarine2007 wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

How can you afford these planes?

And also most airlines go bust after their 1st year in business, so good luck dude
I know.  Been there before.
so where do you come in? have you bought the planes?
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

pers0nah wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:


How can you afford these planes?

And also most airlines go bust after their 1st year in business, so good luck dude
I know.  Been there before.
so where do you come in? have you bought the planes?
Basically, making sure the planes do not fall out of the sky.  (Maintenance, mechanics, parts, engines, etc)
pers0nah
Waste Kid
+271|7009|MANCHESTERRR

usmarine2007 wrote:

pers0nah wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


I know.  Been there before.
so where do you come in? have you bought the planes?
Basically, making sure the planes do not fall out of the sky.  (Maintenance, mechanics, parts, engines, etc)
ah right! Is it just you or a team?
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

pers0nah wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

pers0nah wrote:


so where do you come in? have you bought the planes?
Basically, making sure the planes do not fall out of the sky.  (Maintenance, mechanics, parts, engines, etc)
ah right! Is it just you or a team?
I am the only one in my department.  We started out with 11 people in this airline.  Today we are at 104.  We plan to be around 1000 pretty soon.

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