syntaxmax642
Member
+32|7051|Seattle

Knightnifer wrote:

Vista is 'more secure' says Gates
   
I can't be arsed to copy all of it or the most interesting stuff and then paste the link to the page it was found which i'm sure nobody will look at but... Here it is!

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6313981.stm


I think it will be great until they do something to make it "Better" but it will end up screwing half the Microsoft users all over the world.
What do you think?
zomg... Hax0r5
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6864|King Of The Islands

He sounds like the Windows Setup slides

Windows Just Got Better!

The Easiest Windows Yet!

The Most Secure Windows Ever!

Do More In Less Time


Time remaining: 8 hours, hell make it 10 to be safe, eh?
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7190|Dallas

Miller wrote:

Miller wrote:

Before you flame gates... think about things he has done other than make computer programs... If you can't think of any, you're a fucking moron.
Actually Bill never actually "made" an OS himself.  He stole the first, which he used to make the first and second Windows and after that he had enough money to hire people to write shit for him.

He's a business man.  In other words, a crook.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|7079
I can totally freeze any Vista machine in 60 seconds using nothing but preinstalled tools and applications.  There is some very bad coding in some of the new image preview related features in explorer.  It just freezes the screen and mouse cursor for at least 16 hours (that's how long I left it frozen to test it out) with the disk thrashing at full speed.... it doesn't actually bluescreen or crash, so there isn't a chance to get any exploit code running.  I'd tell Microsoft, but given that IE was exposed to known, unpatched vulnerabilities that had available exploits for 284 days of the last year I doubt they'd have time to worry about something as annoying as a total system freeze.  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/05/ie_unsafe/
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7186|San Antonio, Texas
This isn't totally off-topic but, Microsoft's stocks are down -0.05 / 0.16%. Apple's stock is down -0.39 / 0.45%...

Pretty bad since Microsoft JUST released a new OS...
=Robin-Hood=
A stranger in the dark
+213|7246|Belgium

Well,

Vista has to be more secure than XP if you follow the MAC logic.

The fewer users, the fewer viruses.

Number of users
XP > Vista > Mac

Number of viruses
XP > Vista > Mac

How do I just love to cut the Gordian knot.

As for speed of the vista: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/
The user friendlyness:     http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/23/ … ows_vista/
Vista compared to MAC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16873608/

R
(hopefully I will not be crucified by the MAC users now
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|7079
That benchmarking link doesn't seem to work in the UK... when I click it, it redirects to the UK site and the article is on a different URL so it 404's.  In the UK if it doesn't work, try this:

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/01/30/xp-vs-vista-uk/
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7163

=Robin-Hood= wrote:

Vista compared to MAC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16873608/

R
(hopefully I will not be crucified by the MAC users now
Lol, comparing a 10.4 OSX on a PowerPC processor to an x86 Windows Vista. Well, I can make those kind of comparisons too.
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7072|Peoria
I would just like to inform everyone here, that a friend of mine that lives 3 floors above me at school is a CS major and the CS majors at out school have access to a special microsoft software database where they can download microsoft products for free and get them before everyone else. Well, he called me in last week to show me his new PC running Vista: Business.


Without ANY programs running and on default settings, Vista was using 1/3 of his 1.7 GB of RAM.

WAIT FOR SP1 BEFORE YOU BUY!
=Robin-Hood=
A stranger in the dark
+213|7246|Belgium

Bernadictus wrote:

Lol, comparing a 10.4 OSX on a PowerPC processor to an x86 Windows Vista. Well, I can make those kind of comparisons too.
O noooo...

The cavalry has arrived.

Hey the whole thing is a users based story not a benchmark, anyways it has a happy-mac ending:

So I decided to switch again. From Vista, back to the Mac — to the brand new, white MacBook on which I told this story.
Darn them iMAC homies

R
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|7079

Elamdri wrote:

I would just like to inform everyone here, that a friend of mine that lives 3 floors above me at school is a CS major and the CS majors at out school have access to a special microsoft software database where they can download microsoft products for free and get them before everyone else. Well, he called me in last week to show me his new PC running Vista: Business.


Without ANY programs running and on default settings, Vista was using 1/3 of his 1.7 GB of RAM.

WAIT FOR SP1 BEFORE YOU BUY!
I've had it through the MSDN for a while too, been running it as my main OS at work for a couple of months, and it does actually a much nicer graphics API which means that beautiful desktop apps aren't very tricky to code.  You can use the glass over the entire application window if you really feel like it.  But I don't know if it's worth it, since they could have added that to XP if they really wanted.

As for the memory footprint, I doubt SP1 is gonna fix that... not unless they take all the crap they put in out again.  The memory consumption is a feature
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7197|PNW

Miller wrote:

Before you flame gates... think about things he has done other than make computer programs... If you can't think of any, you're a fucking moron.
And at the same time, I can't send links with the letters "PHP" in it over MSN. Reversed progress on MS's part. Anti-piracy policies will doom the versatility of the PC, even for those who wouldn't know a skull & crossbones from a dead skunk.

As for the growing efficiency of Windows PC's, I have a 3.11 rig set aside for word processing, because it gets things done faster and uses less system resources.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-01-30 16:02:02)

Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7072|Peoria

UON wrote:

Elamdri wrote:

I would just like to inform everyone here, that a friend of mine that lives 3 floors above me at school is a CS major and the CS majors at out school have access to a special microsoft software database where they can download microsoft products for free and get them before everyone else. Well, he called me in last week to show me his new PC running Vista: Business.


Without ANY programs running and on default settings, Vista was using 1/3 of his 1.7 GB of RAM.

WAIT FOR SP1 BEFORE YOU BUY!
I've had it through the MSDN for a while too, been running it as my main OS at work for a couple of months, and it does actually a much nicer graphics API which means that beautiful desktop apps aren't very tricky to code.  You can use the glass over the entire application window if you really feel like it.  But I don't know if it's worth it, since they could have added that to XP if they really wanted.

As for the memory footprint, I doubt SP1 is gonna fix that... not unless they take all the crap they put in out again.  The memory consumption is a feature
ooh, should have specified, I didn't mean SP1 would fix the memory issue, I meant that you should wait till SP1 to get rid of some bugs.


Memory issues can be solved by turning off the new features, like 3d browsing and real-time alt tabbing, but if you do that, your just running a suped up version of XP.
Sorcerer0513
Member
+18|6968|Outer Space
Lol and here was me reading your link and thinking it's time to buy a new operating system. Until I read what the prices in Europe are that is. LMAO!

Vista Ultimate Edition:
US - $378.99
UK - £353.99
Germany - €519.99

Fuck no.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7027|132 and Bush

[google]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3225513065326919443&hl=en[/google]

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-01-30 17:48:51)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6996|Portland, OR, USA

Cougar wrote:

Miller wrote:

Miller wrote:

Before you flame gates... think about things he has done other than make computer programs... If you can't think of any, you're a fucking moron.
Actually Bill never actually "made" an OS himself.  He stole the first, which he used to make the first and second Windows and after that he had enough money to hire people to write shit for him.

He's a business man.  In other words, a crook.
a very, very, rich crook..
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7027|132 and Bush

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Miller wrote:


Actually Bill never actually "made" an OS himself.  He stole the first, which he used to make the first and second Windows and after that he had enough money to hire people to write shit for him.

He's a business man.  In other words, a crook.
a very, very, rich crook..
You forgot generous and caring http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm also.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
naightknifar
Served and Out
+642|6987|Southampton, UK

Yeah - he is generous and caring sometimes but others he doesn't know what to say.
He is a geek way above his head in money, almost drowining in it.
I believe this is portrayed in "The Simpsons"
EVEN BETTER!! IT'S FRENCH!

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