Exactly what I was saying..:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
I could be wrong but I don't think he's accusing Americans of being afraid of guns. I guess the point was Americans have guns because they feel you need them to protect yourself against something. Something they must therefore be afraid of....usmarine2007 wrote:
I am not afraid of guns. What are you talking about? Just because you may be a pussy, don't assume I am.Vilham wrote:
You have to remember that in the USA they dont trust anyone else to protect them. That is why they insist on having guns. Man it must suck being afraid every day of your life...
I don't have a gun. 90% of my friends don't. And the ones who do, some use them for work (cops, FBI, etc) and the rest use them for hunting..:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
I could be wrong but I don't think he's accusing Americans of being afraid of guns. I guess the point was Americans have guns because they feel you need them to protect yourself against something. Something they must therefore be afraid of....usmarine2007 wrote:
I am not afraid of guns. What are you talking about? Just because you may be a pussy, don't assume I am.Vilham wrote:
You have to remember that in the USA they dont trust anyone else to protect them. That is why they insist on having guns. Man it must suck being afraid every day of your life...
But what will you do when the evil Muslims come to get you?usmarine2007 wrote:
I don't have a gun. 90% of my friends don't. And the ones who do, some use them for work (cops, FBI, etc) and the rest use them for hunting..:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
I could be wrong but I don't think he's accusing Americans of being afraid of guns. I guess the point was Americans have guns because they feel you need them to protect yourself against something. Something they must therefore be afraid of....usmarine2007 wrote:
I am not afraid of guns. What are you talking about? Just because you may be a pussy, don't assume I am.
Steal a police car..:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
But what will you do when the evil Muslims come to get you?usmarine2007 wrote:
I don't have a gun. 90% of my friends don't. And the ones who do, some use them for work (cops, FBI, etc) and the rest use them for hunting..:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
I could be wrong but I don't think he's accusing Americans of being afraid of guns. I guess the point was Americans have guns because they feel you need them to protect yourself against something. Something they must therefore be afraid of....
Mind if I ask a question?usmarine2007 wrote:
I don't have a gun. 90% of my friends don't. And the ones who do, some use them for work (cops, FBI, etc) and the rest use them for hunting.
Am i correct to assume you don't have a gun because you feel that the number of gun toting (Muslim, black white, whatever) people who will attack you is a minority and the authorities are doing as much as they can to prevent you from having to fear them?
Well, I keep a pitching wedge behind my door and one of those big ass mag lights under my bed, so with a little luck, that may protect me at home.....or not. As for being out in public, I ALWAYS look to see where alternate exits are. Police can only do so much, hell my sister is an FBI agent, but that does not make me feel more or less safe.crimson_grunt wrote:
Mind if I ask a question?usmarine2007 wrote:
I don't have a gun. 90% of my friends don't. And the ones who do, some use them for work (cops, FBI, etc) and the rest use them for hunting.
Am i correct to assume you don't have a gun because you feel that the number of gun toting (Muslim, black white, whatever) people who will attack you is a minority and the authorities are doing as much as they can to prevent you from having to fear them?
Yeah same here at a much smaller level, you keep your wits about you and watch for threats (although the threats i watch for a gangs of white youths) but for the most part you know the street is not going to blow up in your face and your sure as hell not going to let fear stop you going to the shop etc?usmarine2007 wrote:
Well, I keep a pitching wedge behind my door and one of those big ass mag lights under my bed, so with a little luck, that may protect me at home.....or not. As for being out in public, I ALWAYS look to see where alternate exits are. Police can only do so much, hell my sister is an FBI agent, but that does not make me feel more or less safe.crimson_grunt wrote:
Mind if I ask a question?usmarine2007 wrote:
I don't have a gun. 90% of my friends don't. And the ones who do, some use them for work (cops, FBI, etc) and the rest use them for hunting.
Am i correct to assume you don't have a gun because you feel that the number of gun toting (Muslim, black white, whatever) people who will attack you is a minority and the authorities are doing as much as they can to prevent you from having to fear them?
Well thats simply why were saying were not more concerned with the Muslim thing. Yes we may keep our eyes open for anything suspicious but no more than we would if say a bunch of guys were loitering by a bank. CCTV in the uk may be fucking ridiculous but it caught those London bombers so at least we know were being watched over as much as possible and the lessons learned by the police on 9/7 (don't shoot innocents etc) means they have better idea what to look for.
Schuss baby. . .
There are terrorists running Syria right now. . .Hamas is a terrorist organization that got fucking elected in Palestine. . . what r you talking about?? Iran is run by terrorists too!! Terrorists are very active in the political process! For christs sake, Muqtada al-Sadr wants to be the grand ayatollah of Iraq!!! BTW what "terrorist activities" have we been involved in? I mean this is all up to ones "interpretation", but jesus christ are you really gonna go there. . .USA a terrorist state? thats insulting. . .
LOL what tactics are the Europeans using to fight terror??!! All I have seen is appeasement after appeasement, concession after concession. Why didnt you guys join us in Afghanistan to your fullest extent? If Iraq is quote "illegal" in your eyes, what the fuck is Afghanistan, a paint ball match??. . .cmon!
The invasion was not illegal. . .the man violated EVERY term of the surrender agreement in 91'. If you know your history, those documents (Saddam's government signed) allowed the USA to act with force if necessary if those terms were not abided by!! NOT only was the USA allowed to use force, but EVERY member of the coalition who invaded as well!!!
So Germany and France stuck by the laws/code of the international community huh. . .hmm you might want to rethink that argument, cause in case you didnt know those two countries were doing "back end" deals with your boy Saddam which they said and signed they wouldnt do.
An example of Europe's lack of action/concession. . .how bout pulling out troops in fear of being re-attacked (thanks Italy and Spain!). There is no commitment whatsoever, your countries would rather watch us go at it alone, and take verbal pot shots at us. That is what you are doing. . . THAT IS YOUR TACTICS for dealing with terrorism! Sympathize with them, and talk shit about us!! Am I at all wrong with that assumption as an American? cmon. . .
There are terrorists running Syria right now. . .Hamas is a terrorist organization that got fucking elected in Palestine. . . what r you talking about?? Iran is run by terrorists too!! Terrorists are very active in the political process! For christs sake, Muqtada al-Sadr wants to be the grand ayatollah of Iraq!!! BTW what "terrorist activities" have we been involved in? I mean this is all up to ones "interpretation", but jesus christ are you really gonna go there. . .USA a terrorist state? thats insulting. . .
LOL what tactics are the Europeans using to fight terror??!! All I have seen is appeasement after appeasement, concession after concession. Why didnt you guys join us in Afghanistan to your fullest extent? If Iraq is quote "illegal" in your eyes, what the fuck is Afghanistan, a paint ball match??. . .cmon!
The invasion was not illegal. . .the man violated EVERY term of the surrender agreement in 91'. If you know your history, those documents (Saddam's government signed) allowed the USA to act with force if necessary if those terms were not abided by!! NOT only was the USA allowed to use force, but EVERY member of the coalition who invaded as well!!!
So Germany and France stuck by the laws/code of the international community huh. . .hmm you might want to rethink that argument, cause in case you didnt know those two countries were doing "back end" deals with your boy Saddam which they said and signed they wouldnt do.
An example of Europe's lack of action/concession. . .how bout pulling out troops in fear of being re-attacked (thanks Italy and Spain!). There is no commitment whatsoever, your countries would rather watch us go at it alone, and take verbal pot shots at us. That is what you are doing. . . THAT IS YOUR TACTICS for dealing with terrorism! Sympathize with them, and talk shit about us!! Am I at all wrong with that assumption as an American? cmon. . .
/winfadedsteve wrote:
THAT IS YOUR TACTICS for dealing with terrorism! Sympathize with them, and talk shit about us!! Am I at all wrong with that assumption as an American? cmon. . .
BF2S.com has an ATG problem.....
do those who hate muslims on this forum have to turn their volume down when they hear the loading music for the MEC team?
I have no loading music. Music off FTW.sfarrar33 wrote:
do those who hate muslims on this forum have to turn their volume down when they hear the loading music for the MEC team?
LOL. NOBODY sympathizes with Islamic extremist terrorism so basically:usmarine2007 wrote:
/winfadedsteve wrote:
THAT IS YOUR TACTICS for dealing with terrorism! Sympathize with them, and talk shit about us!! Am I at all wrong with that assumption as an American? cmon. . .
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And PS faded - Germany were not doing 'back end deals', France was; and Europe did back the US in Afghanistan to it's fullest extent (it is a NATO mission after all). Come to mention it the US only suplied 20,000 troops for a mission in a country several times the size of Iraq over which they still have no control and Osama Bin Laden is still at large. /failorama
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Appeasement is just as bad.CameronPoe wrote:
LOL. NOBODY sympathizes with Islamic extremist terrorism so basically:usmarine2007 wrote:
/winfadedsteve wrote:
THAT IS YOUR TACTICS for dealing with terrorism! Sympathize with them, and talk shit about us!! Am I at all wrong with that assumption as an American? cmon. . .
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/win
Just explain to me how any of us are proposing appeasing Islamic extremism. Please state in clear unambiguous terms.usmarine2007 wrote:
Appeasement is just as bad.CameronPoe wrote:
LOL. NOBODY sympathizes with Islamic extremist terrorism so basically:usmarine2007 wrote:
/win
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/win
What is Ireland doing to try and prevent acts of terror?CameronPoe wrote:
Just explain to me how any of us are proposing appeasing Islamic extremism. Please state in clear unambiguous terms.usmarine2007 wrote:
Appeasement is just as bad.CameronPoe wrote:
LOL. NOBODY sympathizes with Islamic extremist terrorism so basically:
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/win
It has improved its border security and special branch is monitoring Imams and activities at all Mosques. Na Garda Suíochana are also co-operating with Interpol and intelligence agencies to track those deemed to possibly represent a threat to national, European and US security. The houses of those suspected of extremist activities are sporadically and habitually raided.usmarine2007 wrote:
What is Ireland doing to try and prevent acts of terror?CameronPoe wrote:
Just explain to me how any of us are proposing appeasing Islamic extremism. Please state in clear unambiguous terms.usmarine2007 wrote:
Appeasement is just as bad.
/win
PS You responded to my question with a question, not an answer.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-19 08:16:50)
Besides which, not preventing it is not the same as appeasement..........................
Some people on here think leaving Iraq would stop all the insurgent attacks. Some people say because the US is involved in many operation world wide, that is why we (and our allies) are attacked. They claim that if we just pulled out of every country we are in, terrorism would stop.CameronPoe wrote:
It has improved its border security and special branch is monitoring Imams and activities at Mosques. It is also co-operating with Interpol and intelligence agencies to track those deemed to possibly represent a threat to national, European and US security.usmarine2007 wrote:
What is Ireland doing to try and prevent acts of terror?CameronPoe wrote:
Just explain to me how any of us are proposing appeasing Islamic extremism. Please state in clear unambiguous terms.
PS You responded to my question with a question, not an answer.
If there was a terror attack in Ireland by a group traced to lets say Indonesia, what would Ireland do in your opinion?
Which people? I'm not aware of any who feel that.usmarine2007 wrote:
Some people on here think leaving Iraq would stop all the insurgent attacks.
Yep. As a very powerful nation who frequently uses that power, you attract alot of attention.usmarine2007 wrote:
Some people say because the US is involved in many operation world wide, that is why we (and our allies) are attacked.
Again, which people?usmarine2007 wrote:
They claim that if we just pulled out of every country we are in, terrorism would stop.
Irrelevant in the context of Iraq, as Iraq had not link to the attacks on the US which sparke the War on Terror. In fact, so far as I'm aware, the only stuff they're known or proven to be involved in was Palestenian nationalist terrorism.usmarine2007 wrote:
If there was a terror attack in Ireland by a group traced to lets say Indonesia, what would Ireland do in your opinion?
hahausmarine2007 wrote:
I have no loading music. Music off FTW.sfarrar33 wrote:
do those who hate muslims on this forum have to turn their volume down when they hear the loading music for the MEC team?
yeah this despite the fact the music is not muslim lol
Again...not talking about Iraq.Bubbalo wrote:
Which people? I'm not aware of any who feel that.usmarine2007 wrote:
Some people on here think leaving Iraq would stop all the insurgent attacks.Yep. As a very powerful nation who frequently uses that power, you attract alot of attention.usmarine2007 wrote:
Some people say because the US is involved in many operation world wide, that is why we (and our allies) are attacked.Again, which people?usmarine2007 wrote:
They claim that if we just pulled out of every country we are in, terrorism would stop.Irrelevant in the context of Iraq, as Iraq had not link to the attacks on the US which sparke the War on Terror. In fact, so far as I'm aware, the only stuff they're known or proven to be involved in was Palestenian nationalist terrorism.usmarine2007 wrote:
If there was a terror attack in Ireland by a group traced to lets say Indonesia, what would Ireland do in your opinion?
usmarine2007 wrote:
Some people on here think leaving Iraq would stop all the insurgent attacks.
Duh. But in the example for Ireland, which is not in the same paragraph, I am not talking about Iraq, and I think Cam can see that.Bubbalo wrote:
usmarine2007 wrote:
Some people on here think leaving Iraq would stop all the insurgent attacks.
Bollocks. No one has said that.usmarine2007 wrote:
Some people on here think leaving Iraq would stop all the insurgent attacks. Some people say because the US is involved in many operation world wide, that is why we (and our allies) are attacked. They claim that if we just pulled out of every country we are in, terrorism would stop.CameronPoe wrote:
It has improved its border security and special branch is monitoring Imams and activities at Mosques. It is also co-operating with Interpol and intelligence agencies to track those deemed to possibly represent a threat to national, European and US security.usmarine2007 wrote:
What is Ireland doing to try and prevent acts of terror?
PS You responded to my question with a question, not an answer.
If there was a terror attack in Ireland by a group traced to lets say Indonesia, what would Ireland do in your opinion?
The US presence in Iraq is causing lots of bloodshed. If the US left Iraq hell would break lose. This is total and utter shambolic situation and good luck to the people who are trying to solve it. Seriously, how do you solve a lose/lose situation.
The number of Terrorism attacks would maybe drop slighty if the US actually did something about its foreign policy but who knows, you've pissed off that many people the attacks would probably continue out of sheer hatered.
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