BF2S Forums Bullying in schools

1. - Your son owns
2. - Most schools dont do shit regardless of whats going on
3. - bullies only bully people that don't strike back? So stand up for yourself and dont take shit from them.

Easy one.

I dropped out in 9th grade because I was picked on so much.  I missed a hundred days in 8th grade for the same reason. 

After home schooling (If you could call it that) for a year and a half, I came back to start school again half way threw tenth grade.  First day back, well, first few minutes, I am in home room and the same kid who gave me so much grief said "So how long before you drop out again"?

I never been in a fight or even hit anyone in anger before.  It took two teacher to pull me off this kids.  I beat the living shit outa him.

Got promptly suspended (However the principle knew the situation and I got off REALLY light.

When I came back I was the most popular kid in school, and buy my senior year, I ran that school.  Never got into another fight afterwards.

Point being, you give it to one guy once and stand your ground, even if another guy thinks he can beat you, 99% of the time he will not try it because he knows you will fight back.

You cannot reason with bullies, they only understand force.  And even if you get beat, you have proven your point and it will stop.

Good for you son!  I told my daughter don't ever let anyone lay there hands on you and if they do, make sure they cannot use there hand again for a while.

Teach your kids ninjitsu and they'll be fine.

I think that as a father you acted perfectly.  You did the best to resolve it yourself but when it came down to it it was a social interaction that your son would have to learn for himself.  Schools and parents can only watch so much and see so much, they can't stop all interactions and will not be there all the time.

I was a camp counselour for a summer camp a few years back.  It was a pretty cheap camp run by the city I lived in so we got a lot of the kids that came from A) Broken homes or B) got kicked out of the nice privately run camps in the city.  I was fine with that but we got one kid who was just a runt.  He would get picked on by EVERYBODY.  He was a smartass too so that didn't help his situation.  I felt bad for him and looked out for him as best I could but one day, just as what happened with your son, he'd had enough and he beat the jesus outta some kid.  No one ever picked on him again and he even picked up a few friends because of it (the kids who got picked on by the same kid).

Nice one dude
Go your little un
Unfortunately fighting back does seem to be the only way to stop bullying (but it does get you respect )
Teachers/schools do sweet FA
Nice that his dad came and apologised as well
I hope you made him do it through the letter box

Last edited by Jinto-sk (2006-11-17 05:49:18)

tbh im not sure what i would advise.

i got bullied in school ( i was quiet, small and introverted lol) and it was pretty damn awfull if the truth be known.

i guess it could have been a lot worse tho.  mind u i did bllx all work in school and i prolly learnt more after i left ( i read loads and loads :S )  i now dont really like taking any shit off peeps unless its warranted,  i guess i look at it this way:  if someone is giving me grief and i get pissed off and its blatantly obvious im getting wound up and they carry on and it kicks off as a result, i think in all honesty they have only themselfs to blame really ( i still think this is fair even if it was me being a knobber and getting a shoe in as a result tbh).

as an aside  im 30, 6'2 and look 20 odd ( i still get asked for ID lol ) all the goons from school are overweight bald and stupid...i win .  well most of em anyway.

hope ur kids cool anyways ...bit of a rant there, kinda like free therapy really lol.

Well, it's a classic story. But in retrospect, I dont think it's wise to teach your kid that "might makes right". You may end up with YOUR kid becomming the bully ! An even worse situation than being the victim (IMO), because as a victim, you have certain rights, and the system stands for YOU, not the bully.
It's always hard to comment on an individual situation, but your kid (and you) beating someone up isn't the way to go. I know because I've been there myself. This kind of thing leads to severe disciplinary problems, and tends to hurt his (your) personal life in the end.
Then again, I'd never EVER suggest to take it lying down.
Personally, I might have DEMANDED of the teachers that they send the repeat offender home from school for a week to cool down. If the school would not take appropriate action, I would have chosen the path you chose, to talk to the childs parents. I realize that not all people are "normal thinking" in lui of a better way to phrase it.  But still, you need to seek "justice" in a manner which shows your child that the system works, that you have police, military and goverment for a REASON. And once reasoning ends, THEN you call in that entire support system. Teaching someone to take the law into ones own hands looks nice in movies like "rambo". But try to imagine someone going bonkers with a granade launcher in downtown seattle. I really doubt that anyone WANTS to talk a guy like that down.

In essence. Might does NOT make right. The system is there to protect the weak, care for the infirm, and serve society. You should have given the system a chance to work for you (and your kid). I'm not saying that standing up for himself isn't a good thing, I'm just saying that teaching him that this is how to SOLVE problems, is wrong.

To use a famous quote "God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the courage to change things that we can, and the wisdom to tell the difference".

Your job is to give your kid a balance of serenity, courage and wisdom. Time will tell if you did the right thing, and I pray that you did, but I hope that when it's my kid in the same situation, that I'll have more patience to settle the matter peacefully. I know that sounds like shit comming from a guy (like me) who likes to shoot big guns, do macho bullshit, and generally make a nuisance of himself, a guy who was once in the same situation myself when I was a kid. But in the end, parenting is something wholy different and seperate from your personal life, likes and dislikes. Whatever you do or dont, your child is your legacy and your contribution to the world, and you need to ensure that your child has the best possible future and social skillset to make his/her way in the world of tomorrow. Being an army brat yourself (?) you know the kind of discipline and respect that the army instills in its troops, and this has probably helped you a lot throughout your life, I know discipline and respect has helped me, and countless of others. And while you may want your child to one day join the army, you should still as a responsible parent instill these good and positive values in your child, regardless of his or her future career choice.
Take as an example the father of the "bully". A totally unresonable man by your description, I'm sure you would not want your child or yourself to become such a person. As such, values are important. So in the end, it's up to you to make sure that your child has learned the "right" leason from all of this.

Best of luck in your future parenting.

loonitic wrote:

1. - Your son owns
2. - Most schools dont do shit regardless of whats going on
3. - bullies only bully people that don't strike back? So stand up for yourself and dont take shit from them.

Commie Killer wrote:

Ive done worse, a kid TRIED to steal my money from me last year. I broke his nose and jaw, cracked 3 of his ribs, and broke his wrist, after I was done with that I continuously kicked him in the face until 7 teachers tackled me at once, it was very funny in the opinion of everyone who watched it.

Good for you

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Teach your kids ninjitsu and they'll be fine.

ToiletTrooper wrote:

Dammit! That post is just way too long, im not gonna read that!

If its way too long why post just fuck off and post your spam else where ...fucking troll!


As for the Son of Dieselboy... Well done....   my son  had the same problems when we were based in Cyprus  and he had to go to a Cypriot school.......  He fought back because I told him to....(after the third time and me seeing the teachers and them not doing anything I told them he would fight back......and I got suspended from the school when he did !! )

Apparently to wrongs dont make a right..... I agree...but a black eye and a broken nose made it right lol....

So well done....  its just a shame that too many parents have the same atitude that diesel found

Bullies are to be ignored until it gets physical, at which point, beat the shit out of them as long as they throw the first punch. And don't kill them.

That's my view.