Well I know it hasn't actively supported any (like for instance Saddam Hussein, King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, Manual Noriega, Fulgencio Batista, etc. ad infinitum). You guys generally remove the cunt you put there in the first place.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Hmmmm... what has Ireland done to help free them from the brutal dictators?CameronPoe wrote:
Well you guys don't do yourselves any favours in the eyes of muslims do you? Blowing them up and all. And supporting people who blow them up. And supporting people who brutally dictate over them.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Ask any American if they would feel more safe going on vacation to Iran or more safe going to Australia. I think you know the answer.
Well, you stick to appeasement and isolationism.CameronPoe wrote:
Well I know it hasn't actively supported any (like for instance Saddam Hussein, King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, Manual Noriega, Fulgencio Batista, etc. ad infinitum). You guys generally remove the cunt you put there in the first place.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Hmmmm... what has Ireland done to help free them from the brutal dictators?CameronPoe wrote:
Well you guys don't do yourselves any favours in the eyes of muslims do you? Blowing them up and all. And supporting people who blow them up. And supporting people who brutally dictate over them.
No, its just too ironic to pass up. By the way, still no answers.Clark W Griswald wrote:
No, that was my point all along. What are you, his little sidekick?jonsimon wrote:
Why don't I ask if they'd feel more safe going on vacation to two places that are similar in political strife, regardless of muslim extremists? You're proposing I ask someone if they'd prefer a sandy beach, or Iwo Jima.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Ask any American if they would feel more safe going on vacation to Iran or more safe going to Australia. I think you know the answer.
Anyway, you sidestepped, diverted, whatever you recently accused Poe of doing, my questions.
I Totally haven't read this debate all the way through...just posting my old muslim cartoon pic
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Ok. How about U.A.E. .vs. Iran?jonsimon wrote:
No, its just too ironic to pass up. By the way, still no answers.Clark W Griswald wrote:
No, that was my point all along. What are you, his little sidekick?jonsimon wrote:
Why don't I ask if they'd feel more safe going on vacation to two places that are similar in political strife, regardless of muslim extremists? You're proposing I ask someone if they'd prefer a sandy beach, or Iwo Jima.
Anyway, you sidestepped, diverted, whatever you recently accused Poe of doing, my questions.
When I meant my questions, I meant the questions way back you just totally ignored, like the incidence rate of beheadings. Anyway, I, personally, wouldn't be too partial to either in particular.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Ok. How about U.A.E. .vs. Iran?jonsimon wrote:
No, its just too ironic to pass up. By the way, still no answers.Clark W Griswald wrote:
No, that was my point all along. What are you, his little sidekick?
Has anyone ever heard of a terrorist beheading a tourist BEFORE the invasion of Iraq? Just a question there.
Anyway, i truly believe that they are beheading people cause of the invasion - they are fighting an occupying force. Sure, beheading is brutal but its not like 100s of them have occured. Mostly toursists and journos are kidnapped and released later on.
Back on the topic of these cartoons, i say good on Iran. They have a sense of humour about them. If the west draws a cartoon of Mohammed, then why not expect a cartoon aimed at the Jews? Its a simple eye for an eye situation, and while many people think the eye for an eye policy is a bad one, its how this world works. And dont argue that the Muslims are bad cause they rioted over the Mohammed cartoon - i have no doubt that Israel would have bombed the shit out of a smaller country for less, let alone a riot.
Anyway, i truly believe that they are beheading people cause of the invasion - they are fighting an occupying force. Sure, beheading is brutal but its not like 100s of them have occured. Mostly toursists and journos are kidnapped and released later on.
Back on the topic of these cartoons, i say good on Iran. They have a sense of humour about them. If the west draws a cartoon of Mohammed, then why not expect a cartoon aimed at the Jews? Its a simple eye for an eye situation, and while many people think the eye for an eye policy is a bad one, its how this world works. And dont argue that the Muslims are bad cause they rioted over the Mohammed cartoon - i have no doubt that Israel would have bombed the shit out of a smaller country for less, let alone a riot.
Well the IRA did blow up Lord Mountbatten - Architect of the modern state of Israel.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Hmmmm... what has Ireland done to help free them from the brutal dictators?CameronPoe wrote:
Well you guys don't do yourselves any favours in the eyes of muslims do you? Blowing them up and all. And supporting people who blow them up. And supporting people who brutally dictate over them.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Ask any American if they would feel more safe going on vacation to Iran or more safe going to Australia. I think you know the answer.
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Ummmmmmm, how are you making a point that muslims are being bashed, by stating nobody was killed during the world wide cartoon riots, WHEN IN FACT, people were killed???CameronPoe wrote:
No that was a subpoint that was only ever going to be supplemental to my main point. The main point I want to get across is that this muslim bashing is just modern day jew bashing.lowing wrote:
Actually it does diminish the point you were making, since the point you were making was..........nobody was killed during those riots.CameronPoe wrote:
Oh sorry. I didn't realise you classified muslim deaths as actual deaths. My wiki source was obviously faulty. ACtually I missed the paragraph d'oh. You're right. Doesn't diminish the point I'm making. This thread is designed to *surprise surprise* demonise muslims and promote division between us and people of the muslim faith - unhelpful.
Oh...... but my point is just an opinion that a lot of people share. If an American goes to Saudi on vacation, they run a risk of being on TV with a sabre to their head just for being an American. If a Saudi comes to America on vacation, I doubt he worries about being on CNN with a blindfold on.jonsimon wrote:
When I meant my questions, I meant the questions way back you just totally ignored, like the incidence rate of beheadings. Anyway, I, personally, wouldn't be too partial to either in particular.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Ok. How about U.A.E. .vs. Iran?jonsimon wrote:
No, its just too ironic to pass up. By the way, still no answers.
As opposed to installation of dictators and removal at a later date.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Well, you stick to appeasement and isolationism.CameronPoe wrote:
Well I know it hasn't actively supported any (like for instance Saddam Hussein, King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, Manual Noriega, Fulgencio Batista, etc. ad infinitum). You guys generally remove the cunt you put there in the first place.Clark W Griswald wrote:
Hmmmm... what has Ireland done to help free them from the brutal dictators?
*cough* *bullshit* *cough*Iron_Sentinel wrote:
i have no doubt that Israel would have bombed the shit out of a smaller country for less, let alone a riot.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
You're totally over-emphasising the importance of something not that important. It was a side-issue responding erroneously to a jibe on Griswalds part.lowing wrote:
Ummmmmmm, how are you making a point that muslims are being bashed, by stating nobody was killed during the world wide cartoon riots, WHEN IN FACT, people were killed???CameronPoe wrote:
No that was a subpoint that was only ever going to be supplemental to my main point. The main point I want to get across is that this muslim bashing is just modern day jew bashing.lowing wrote:
Actually it does diminish the point you were making, since the point you were making was..........nobody was killed during those riots.
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Daniel PearlIron_Sentinel wrote:
Has anyone ever heard of a terrorist beheading a tourist BEFORE the invasion of Iraq? Just a question there.
Anyway, i truly believe that they are beheading people cause of the invasion - they are fighting an occupying force. Sure, beheading is brutal but its not like 100s of them have occured. Mostly toursists and journos are kidnapped and released later on.
Back on the topic of these cartoons, i say good on Iran. They have a sense of humour about them. If the west draws a cartoon of Mohammed, then why not expect a cartoon aimed at the Jews? Its a simple eye for an eye situation, and while many people think the eye for an eye policy is a bad one, its how this world works. And dont argue that the Muslims are bad cause they rioted over the Mohammed cartoon - i have no doubt that Israel would have bombed the shit out of a smaller country for less, let alone a riot.
It's the only point he has, can't he savor it while it lasts?CameronPoe wrote:
You're totally over-emphasising the importance of something not that important. It was a side-issue responding erroneously to a jibe on Griswalds part.lowing wrote:
Ummmmmmm, how are you making a point that muslims are being bashed, by stating nobody was killed during the world wide cartoon riots, WHEN IN FACT, people were killed???CameronPoe wrote:
No that was a subpoint that was only ever going to be supplemental to my main point. The main point I want to get across is that this muslim bashing is just modern day jew bashing.
Cheers.lowing wrote:
Daniel PearlIron_Sentinel wrote:
Has anyone ever heard of a terrorist beheading a tourist BEFORE the invasion of Iraq? Just a question there.
Anyway, i truly believe that they are beheading people cause of the invasion - they are fighting an occupying force. Sure, beheading is brutal but its not like 100s of them have occured. Mostly toursists and journos are kidnapped and released later on.
Back on the topic of these cartoons, i say good on Iran. They have a sense of humour about them. If the west draws a cartoon of Mohammed, then why not expect a cartoon aimed at the Jews? Its a simple eye for an eye situation, and while many people think the eye for an eye policy is a bad one, its how this world works. And dont argue that the Muslims are bad cause they rioted over the Mohammed cartoon - i have no doubt that Israel would have bombed the shit out of a smaller country for less, let alone a riot.
Wrong again Cam, I am the one that said the cartoon riots were "murderous", you then disputed it. I then proved you wrong.......There was no side issue to it.......It was all you and me......go back and look... I just did.CameronPoe wrote:
You're totally over-emphasising the importance of something not that important. It was a side-issue responding erroneously to a jibe on Griswalds part.lowing wrote:
Ummmmmmm, how are you making a point that muslims are being bashed, by stating nobody was killed during the world wide cartoon riots, WHEN IN FACT, people were killed???CameronPoe wrote:
No that was a subpoint that was only ever going to be supplemental to my main point. The main point I want to get across is that this muslim bashing is just modern day jew bashing.
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It was a side-point to the topic of the thread, and he admits his error. It's a moot point now.lowing wrote:
Wrong again Cam, I am the one that said the cartoon riots were "murderous", you then disputed it. I then proved you wrong.......There was no side issue to it.......It was all you and me......go back and look I just did.CameronPoe wrote:
You're totally over-emphasising the importance of something not that important. It was a side-issue responding erroneously to a jibe on Griswalds part.lowing wrote:
Ummmmmmm, how are you making a point that muslims are being bashed, by stating nobody was killed during the world wide cartoon riots, WHEN IN FACT, people were killed???
Has Poe got his hand up your arse so he can work your mouth?jonsimon wrote:
It was a side-point to the topic of the thread, and he admits his error. It's a moot point now.lowing wrote:
Wrong again Cam, I am the one that said the cartoon riots were "murderous", you then disputed it. I then proved you wrong.......There was no side issue to it.......It was all you and me......go back and look I just did.CameronPoe wrote:
You're totally over-emphasising the importance of something not that important. It was a side-issue responding erroneously to a jibe on Griswalds part.
Not really a side point, it is my point. They riot and kill over a cartoon, then do the same thing.jonsimon wrote:
It was a side-point to the topic of the thread, and he admits his error. It's a moot point now.
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Maybe you need to go back and look as well........who the hell are you anyway.....Camronpoe's spokes toadie??jonsimon wrote:
It was a side-point to the topic of the thread, and he admits his error. It's a moot point now.lowing wrote:
Wrong again Cam, I am the one that said the cartoon riots were "murderous", you then disputed it. I then proved you wrong.......There was no side issue to it.......It was all you and me......go back and look I just did.CameronPoe wrote:
You're totally over-emphasising the importance of something not that important. It was a side-issue responding erroneously to a jibe on Griswalds part.
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Still can't find the cartoons, bet their crap and unfunny anyways..
Found this http://vitalperspective.typepad.com/vit … _at_h.htmlIG-Calibre wrote:
Still can't find the cartoons, bet their crap and unfunny anyways..
Damn and here was me thinking they were going to be horrible, vile and offensive, not one of them strike me as being particularly in denial of the Holocaust TBH, in fact some are quite good..EricTViking wrote:
Found this http://vitalperspective.typepad.com/vit … _at_h.htmlIG-Calibre wrote:
Still can't find the cartoons, bet their crap and unfunny anyways..
Yeah, the "West Club" one is pretty true to life.IG-Calibre wrote:
Damn and here was me thinking they were going to be horrible, vile and offensive, not one of them strike me as being particularly in denial of the Holocaust TBH, in fact some are quite good..EricTViking wrote:
Found this http://vitalperspective.typepad.com/vit … _at_h.htmlIG-Calibre wrote:
Still can't find the cartoons, bet their crap and unfunny anyways..