reefl3x
Member
+72|6606|United States
On my account "Roger_the_retard", I have pretty decent chopper stats. 7000-2000. My strong point is piloting, but i'm able to gun or solo with decent accuracy. Playing alot in Insomnia Dalian 24/7 and FHM Dalian has definately made me an A class pilot, but my only weakness is gunning.

My problem is hitting sliding choppers. What I mean by sliding is a chopper strafeing left to right, but really fast. I'm not sure if the hit box lags and I should aim behind the chopper a bit, or aim in front of the chopper.

I find hitting barrel rolls and just weird manuevers easier than hitting a slide. No matter how hard or fast I click, my missle never seems to want to connect with a sliding chopper.
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6664|UK
Erm click on either the far left or right of the screen to cause the missle to turn sharply maybe you'll hit it.
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6836|Finland

It's really difficult to hit a strafing chopper (a pilots observations). Flanking might work best, but is surely a bitch to master..
I need around tree fiddy.
cablecopulate
Member
+449|6942|Massachusetts.
That FHM server is the worst one I've ever played on.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6836|949

thats why you slide in a chopper battle...its harder to hit than barrel rolls
Dsp-CS-
Claymore magnet
+98|6910|Alaska

cablecopulate wrote:

That FHM server is the worst one I've ever played on.
lol yea, j10s pissed you off? you should try to DMOC or w/e its called, its a good server, just make sure that you are onthe right side with the right people and you will get a chopper pretty soon
cablecopulate
Member
+449|6942|Massachusetts.
No, the whole server was full of teamkillers. That time I joined you there was atrocious. Another time I saw there was like three people there, so I figured "cool, people will be fucking around with jets and choppers until the round starts." So I join, get in the chopper, get TVed, no biggie. Respawn, and go for the chopper, and an FHM member on my team gets in first, switches to gunner and kills me. Eventually I switched, more people joined, and it was the same thing. And all that before the round started! It wasn't even people just horsing around pre-round. It was just people being dicks.
GotMex?
$623,493,674,868,715.98 in Debt
+193|6967

Go for the tail. That's my biggest, most important tip. The tail area is forgiving with misses.

I have seen many missiles fly straight through the cockpit, but when I aim for the tail and then turn the missile towards the chopper right at the end, hits seem to register even when I miss by a bit.

Give that a try.

Last edited by GotMex? (2006-10-24 04:51:54)

adv3rsary
Member
+28|6920
hitting with guided missle i persume
only tips i can give you is, try to approach any chopper from the side
also aim for the tail as much as you can
you will almost never hit with a missle if you are face to face with a chopper
also another thing i find useful is shooting the missle and pulling it down and as it gets closer to the target suddenly pull it up and hit the chopper from the bottom (more surface area)... the top works the same.. shoot up and pull it down very fast at the last second..

good luck
Michael82
Member
+4|6986|Copenhagen, Denmark
Like other people said.

If you wanna hit a chopper, go for the tail. I'm a pilot myself and practicing my gunning. When i'm in my ace, i fly with **WM**BornKiller (or something). That guy hit's like 90 - 95% of the time... and i'm not talking about noob gunners, he hits things like the guy in the "Duck and Cover" video.

Another thing. When you talk about sliding... do you mean "strafing" (as a ground troop)?
elmo1337
Banned
+186|6763|The real world
steer it to the right then hit them in the side, allways works
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6836|Finland

elmo1337 wrote:

steer it to the right then hit them in the side, allways works

elmo1337 promised to stop with the internets and wrote:

Delete Xfire, Delete games, MSN and music on my pc only, no more game forums, no more contacts over the internets to people ive never seen before.

You wanna know why?

God was like, hey elmo
I was like, hey man
He was like, you should stop gaming
I was like, k
He was like: kthx, gg
Source

Last edited by DonFck (2006-10-24 04:59:33)

I need around tree fiddy.
MastersMom
YOUR mom goes to college
+61|6859
I'd consider myself to be a good gunner...not great, but good at least.  I agree that a strafing chopper is about the hardest target you'll come across.  My best advice is to start your missle as far infront of the strafe as possible and keep it that way.  If they're strafing to your right, then put your crosshairs to the extreme right to start off.  Don't ever at any point aim at the chopper itself.  Always aim ahead of where it's going because otherwise it's moving too fast and will get ahead of the missle and once that happens you're going to miss no matter what you do.  Basically your best bet is to get the missle in front of the choppers path and let them run into it.  It's still going to be a damn hard shot.  Hopefully your pilot is strafing at the same time so it's just as hard for them to hit you.  If this is the case and you can't land a hit, try to lite them up with cannon fire and if/when they go to repair take the shot from behind them.  Good luck.
DaZeD863
Member
+11|6755
i never gun... i have 7100 driver kill assists with 110 in the chopper.. but when i do i dont have a problem hitting sliding choppers... the biggest factor for me is distance from the other chopper... the further the better... also your processor will put the chopper about 1 sec ahaed of where it actually is.. so when i get close enough i aim at the back quarter of my target... when i do hit it looks like a miss.....

on a side note a wild barrel roll is impossible to hit.. way better than strafing.. the problem comes when you try and keep the enemy chopper lined up or in view when rolling... i get hit every time doing that.. i just line up fire one dummy rocket to lull the enemy chopper into a false sence of security (dont know if it works but i know when i see one single rocket coming from the emeny i automatically assume its the tv).. watch my gunner fire the tv... pull up, out of contorl and into a barrel roll count to five... rinse.... repeat.....
reefl3x
Member
+72|6606|United States
I typically just play the range game, ranging out his missles, then barely getting  my gunner within range and letting him shoot, then backing out of range again. And if my gunner ever misses his missles alot and the other chopper decides to come at us, then to the rocket pods it is, or hope my gunner cant do something in a CQ fight. I do the same thing when I solo or gun.

I think the hitboxes lag a bit, because if I ever do a hit a sliding heli normally it looks like I wasnt even close, meaning I hit behind it....im sure the hitbox lags a bit.
Ubersturmbannfuhrer
I am a fucking homosexual
+211|6811|Parainen, Finland
Ok, I´m pretty good at shooting those helos down, but I must say that it´s easier to shoot a plane down than a chopper which is sliding fast and making fancy moves!!!!

BUT!!!

If you follow the moves a bit you will see the pattern the pilot is using, and that helps a lot in the future!
Then you just have to estimate where the chopper is going to be at the impact time, and if you see that you are about to miss, then click a far right or -left just before impact. If you are going to be a good gunner you have to have fast reflexes and skills in steering it in with right angle. Always approach the chopper from the front with low paced clicking, and just before impact steer it in with infernal clicking aiming at the tail.

In close range dogfights you have to do it a bit different. If you have a good pilot (Sturmpanzerjager) and he lines you up straight ahead you just have to click once, because the distance is so short that you don't have time for steering it any better. This is how I waste those sorry ass dick heads, works almost all the time!!!!

Oh, and take your shot immediately when you get your chance, you can´t dodge a good gunners missile, It must be him before you....  It´s just bad luck if his missile hits you the second after you wasted him...
As the time goes by you get a range meter inside your head that tells you when its time to fire, the most usual mistake people make is firing to early leading to his death...

There are lots of other stuff I´d like to tell you, but I know that you will find it all out in the end!!!!!

Good luck with hunting those pricks, and if you meet Mic.3 or Mastakillachilla2 and succeed in wasting them, tell them that Uber says hi!!!!
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6911|67.222.138.85

DonFck wrote:

elmo1337 wrote:

steer it to the right then hit them in the side, allways works

elmo1337 promised to stop with the internets and wrote:

Delete Xfire, Delete games, MSN and music on my pc only, no more game forums, no more contacts over the internets to people ive never seen before.

You wanna know why?

God was like, hey elmo
I was like, hey man
He was like, you should stop gaming
I was like, k
He was like: kthx, gg
Source
gg elmo
']['error
Banned
+630|6848|The Netherlands

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

DonFck wrote:

elmo1337 wrote:

steer it to the right then hit them in the side, allways works

elmo1337 promised to stop with the internets and wrote:

Delete Xfire, Delete games, MSN and music on my pc only, no more game forums, no more contacts over the internets to people ive never seen before.

You wanna know why?

God was like, hey elmo
I was like, hey man
He was like, you should stop gaming
I was like, k
He was like: kthx, gg
Source
gg elmo
Elmo is back in business
Twist
Too old to be doing this sh*t
+103|6727|Little blue planet, milky way
A lot of the posters seem to be missing, what I see as the crucial point in the question: the hitbox, where is it when the enemy helo is sliding ?

Well, There are a few things that you generally need to consider. I rarely gun anymore, because of my new internetconnection giving me too LOW pings (!) So you may consider my advice invalid if you wish. But read it and decide for yourself.

1) If the guy is "sliding", try hitting hit from a further distance, this will give you more time guide your missle
2) Communicate with your pilot (unless YOU'RE the pilot too), try to have him approach the enemy from another angle.
3) Generally, dont go head to head with a helo if you can avoid it. Why give him the opportunity to kill you ? You might as well sneak up on him unsuspectingly and kill him without mercy. Most pilots wont "slide" unles to circle prey or to avoid missles.
4) Play on servers where you ping is relatively close to the other players ping. if your ping is relatively low or high as compared to theirs, you will miss more often (graphics and hitbox dont move syncronously)
5) Aim for the large surfaces of the helo. This is NOT the front. Generally approach from high and a shot at the rotor blades is an almost certain kill (even if it goes trough the top hit box, you will often hit the rear hitbox (tail)). Side is also good. Many people say aim for the tail. This mostly works if the guy you're approaching has a higer ping than you. If he doens't you should try to go for the rotor.
6) If you HAVE to take a frontal shot, get distance to guide the missle high, and hit the helo with the missle going down through the rotor blades. If you cant get distance, then it's up to luck or ping where you have to aim. As many people have said, it's damned frequent the missile will go through the helo. I even have a SS of a gunners EYE, it was ofcourse a miss.

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