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2011-08-27 22:11:18

#3951

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6127|eXtreme to the maX

Reciprocity wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Mechanically there is more innovation in that single Russian designed pistol than the last 100 years of US pistol development.
Thank you for bringing "America sucks" to yet another thread. [rolls eyes]
that's how the ruskies won the cold war...their remarkably innovative target pistols.

We're talking about guns, not the cold war.

The fact is there has been no innovation since 1911, something the US military apparently agrees with since the adopted the Beretta.

Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!

2011-08-27 23:06:29

#3952

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6602|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Dilbert_X wrote:
The fact is there has been no innovation since 1911, something the US military apparently agrees with since the adopted the Beretta.

yes, indeed, because what is a military without super innovative sidearms? or maybe we just bought the cheapest hunk of 9mm eurotrash shit we could get because, oh yeah, military sidearms serve nearly no purpose.

2011-08-27 23:35:33

#3953

UnkleRukus: That Guy; +236|5057|Massachusetts, USA

Should let soldiers choose if they want one or not, and if they do they have to buy it. There's no restrictions on what you can purchase.

If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.

2011-08-27 23:37:02

#3954

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6127|eXtreme to the maX

The M9 went through pretty exhaustive testing IIRC, there were cheaper guns available too.

Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!

2011-08-28 06:28:02

#3955

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6020|Vortex Ring State

UnkleRukus wrote:
Should let soldiers choose if they want one or not, and if they do they have to buy it. There's no restrictions on what you can purchase.

erm massive logistical problems

imagine having to supplying 7-8 different types of ammo in the field, just for pistols

2011-08-28 06:32:22

#3956

UnkleRukus: That Guy; +236|5057|Massachusetts, USA

Trotskygrad wrote:
UnkleRukus wrote:
Should let soldiers choose if they want one or not, and if they do they have to buy it. There's no restrictions on what you can purchase.
erm massive logistical problems

imagine having to supplying 7-8 different types of ammo in the field, just for pistols

Purchasing a non standard caliber should require you to purchase your own ammo. Just food for thought.

If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.

2011-08-28 07:27:21

#3957

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6020|Vortex Ring State

UnkleRukus wrote:
Trotskygrad wrote:
UnkleRukus wrote:
Should let soldiers choose if they want one or not, and if they do they have to buy it. There's no restrictions on what you can purchase.
erm massive logistical problems

imagine having to supplying 7-8 different types of ammo in the field, just for pistols
Purchasing a non standard caliber should require you to purchase your own ammo. Just food for thought.

since when does the military force soldiers to purchase ammo anyways

2011-08-28 07:40:55

#3958

UnkleRukus: That Guy; +236|5057|Massachusetts, USA

Never said they did.

If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.

2011-08-28 08:29:35

#3959

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6020|Vortex Ring State

then it would encourage soldiers to be lazy and not practice with their sidearms?

2011-08-28 08:30:14

#3960

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6737

Trotskygrad wrote:
UnkleRukus wrote:
Trotskygrad wrote:

erm massive logistical problems

imagine having to supplying 7-8 different types of ammo in the field, just for pistols
Purchasing a non standard caliber should require you to purchase your own ammo. Just food for thought.
since when does the military force soldiers to purchase ammo anyways

Or just use pistols that use .45 ACP and let the operators decide what they want to use.

https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png

2011-08-28 11:43:58

#3961

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6020|Vortex Ring State

Cybargs wrote:
Trotskygrad wrote:
UnkleRukus wrote:

Purchasing a non standard caliber should require you to purchase your own ammo. Just food for thought.
since when does the military force soldiers to purchase ammo anyways
Or just use pistols that use .45 ACP and let the operators decide what they want to use.

what about spare parts

2011-08-28 11:55:26

#3962

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6737

Trotskygrad wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Trotskygrad wrote:

since when does the military force soldiers to purchase ammo anyways
Or just use pistols that use .45 ACP and let the operators decide what they want to use.
what about spare parts

standardized battalion pistols loooooool. at least there's some choice.

2011-08-28 13:58:28

#3963

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6613

UnkleRukus wrote:
Should let soldiers choose if they want one or not, and if they do they have to buy it. There's no restrictions on what you can purchase.

Hrm, okay.. fine...

I want THIS, in 12ga
(Or, something akin to an MP5K layout, chambered in 12ga, with an (obviously) slightly longer barrel)

https://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/58659.jpg

It is impractical to allow a regular army to arm itself with an irregular assortment of firearms.
Supply issues, ammo issues, training issues, etc etc.

Special Operations types, however, are another story.
They spend enough time and energy on training that a personal pistol would work for them.

Then again, with that much time and training, one could become extremely proficient in a unit-assigned weapon.

And, with Special Operations training tempo, they've probably figured out which pistols are accurate and reliable.
So, you're back down to one or three unit preferred pistols again.
Cream rises to the top, so to speak.
No need for expensive General Officer & contractor driven weapons trials - go ask the SOCOM groups "Hey, you all have put a few million rounds downrange. What works, and what is trash?"

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2011-08-28 18:18:24

#3964

SonderKommando: Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....; +564|6681|The darkside of Denver

Went shooting with my dad and best friend today.

We sighted in his new Traditions muzzle loader. That thing hits fucking HARD and FLAT. Not to say recoil was bad, but that slug just decimates whatever it hits. Then we had fun with the our AK's, my Glock 17, my buddies S&W .40, and his .357. Good day!

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/12050/Dad%20and%20Ryan%20at%20Left%20Hand.jpg

2011-08-28 18:45:17

#3965

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6020|Vortex Ring State

those bulgy AKs?

2011-08-28 19:41:09

#3966

SonderKommando: Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....; +564|6681|The darkside of Denver

Trotskygrad wrote:
those bulgy AKs?

Romanian WASR10's

2011-08-28 20:33:26

#3967

signa: ~~~~~; +50|6750|Michigan, USA

rdx-fx wrote:
Hrm, okay.. fine...

I want THIS, in 12ga
(Or, something akin to an MP5K layout, chambered in 12ga, with an (obviously) slightly longer barrel)

the only thing close to that is going to be a Tromix saiga 12g.

https://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/composition/attachment/b1f54415d104681bc9631d95d9a2c253/296764/saiga_12k_tromix.jpg?thumb=1

2011-08-29 11:40:21

#3968

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6736|US

Dilbert_X wrote:
Reciprocity wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:

Thank you for bringing "America sucks" to yet another thread. [rolls eyes]
that's how the ruskies won the cold war...their remarkably innovative target pistols.
We're talking about guns, not the cold war.

The fact is there has been no innovation since 1911, something the US military apparently agrees with since the adopted the Beretta.

No. Just no.

There are PLENTY of US pistol designs.
The M9? There are lots of reasons, some questionable, why that was chosen.

2011-08-29 11:55:45

#3969

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6589|Mountains of NC

RAIMIUS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Reciprocity wrote:

that's how the ruskies won the cold war...their remarkably innovative target pistols.
We're talking about guns, not the cold war.

The fact is there has been no innovation since 1911, something the US military apparently agrees with since the adopted the Beretta.
No. Just no.

There are PLENTY of US pistol designs.
The M9? There are lots of reasons, some questionable, why that was chosen.

M9 - Beretta - Italian manufacturer

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg

2011-08-29 11:57:11

#3970

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5495|Ventura, California

Buying a handgun tomorrow (hopefully, if I have time that is)

Not to sure which one I'll get. Something cheap no doubt.

Last edited by -Sh1fty- (2011-08-29 11:57:30)

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-08-29 11:57:40

#3971

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6589|Mountains of NC

Dilbert_X wrote:
SEREMAKER wrote:
Not sure what point you're making but whatever.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AcAkFWLq4Ts/R_TSFFR2mJI/AAAAAAAAAF0/N8CYm5qRoT4/s320/WWSSGM1911.jpg

2011-08-29 12:02:08

#3972

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5495|Ventura, California

Dilbert_X wrote:
The M9 went through pretty exhaustive testing IIRC, there were cheaper guns available too.

IIRC they were shit and all my friends who used them hated 'em.

Edit: and don't fix what isn't broken. the browning M2 .50 has been around for over half a century. the 1911 and browning are still around for a reason.

Last edited by -Sh1fty- (2011-08-29 12:03:03)

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-08-29 12:19:57

#3973

Monkey Spanker: Show it to the nice monkey.; +284|6273|England

Here ya go shifty a few hundred dollars for a 1911.

Quote of the year so far "Fifa 11 on the other hand... shiny things for mongos "-mtb0minime

https://bf3s.com/sigs/f30415b2d1cff840176cce816dc76d89a7929bb0.png

2011-08-29 12:22:27

#3974

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,736|6758|Oxferd Ohire

isnt nvidia better?

2011-08-29 12:27:47

#3975

NeXuS: Shock it till ya know it; +375|6363|Atlanta, Georgia

-Sh1fty- wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
The M9 went through pretty exhaustive testing IIRC, there were cheaper guns available too.
IIRC they were shit and all my friends who used them hated 'em.

Edit: and don't fix what isn't broken. the browning M2 .50 has been around for over half a century. the 1911 and browning are still around for a reason.

Pro: M9's are very reliable, easy to break down, easy to clean, easy to maintain.

Con: Stopping power....

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