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are kangaroos moderately social if they dont feel threatened? like could you raise one as a pet and box with it for fun? I hear their meat is good from some people, but my cousin who lives in Melbourne says it's not, what do you say?the_heart_attack wrote:
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
i got a few guns and go hunting heaps hear in aus.
we can go all year round, although deer is best and biggest around easter time here.
im lucky as canberra is surrounded by bush and have a few mates with good propertys within 30 mins of my house!!
the main thing we shoot though is roos (kangaroos) as they are everywhere and are a pain in the arse for farmers.
and to dispell any rumors about them they are not the nice animal everyone might think.
they growl at you like blood hungry pitbulls and can grab you with there arms and split your guts open with there claw on the legs (iv seen one do it to a dog)
but we also do alot of pig hunting for wild bores and sows, not that many round canberra but a few hrs drive away there is plenty in western N.S.W.
its comming into summer here in aus and we have daylight saving so its great time for shooting in the arvo's.
I agree. If you haven't gone hunting, you really don't know nature. People say "oh, i go for walks in the forest all the time" yea, but the animals are watching you while you do it. Ever notice that it is really quiet when you walk? I used to think nature was quiet, before i started hunting. Now, i know it's loud as all Hell. After a while of sitting still, the animals forget you are there, and go about thier business. To me, it's really fun to watch all the different kind of animals interact. Also, i would like to point out most hunters DO NOT use the "if it's brown, it's down" theory. I have let more small bucks(and does with fawns) walk than i can remember. Hunting is NOT just about shooting an animal, it's about the experience, and joy of nature.redfoxster wrote:
I love hunting, im leaving for the deer lease for 3 days tomorrow, then off home fro turkey day until school starts again in a little over a week. I think hutning is a great thing. Hunters have a greater appreciation of the outdoors and the environment, than the average person I would say. Most hunters also understand the importance of regulating populations of wildlife to prevent over population and resulting starvation. Its also great quality meat, far better than anything you can buy at the grocery store. The list goes on, it's jsut a very good thing. People say that some hunters just enjoy killing and do it for the thrill and there's no reason to hunt anymore. I'd just point out that those kinds og hunters account for less than 1% of outdoorsmen, and as for people that say its not neccessary anymore, well, perhaps not to put food on the table, but as a population control and way to raise money for conservation, its a great thing.
if you like eating leather...yeh go ahead eat roo!!redfoxster wrote:
are kangaroos moderately social if they dont feel threatened? like could you raise one as a pet and box with it for fun? I hear their meat is good from some people, but my cousin who lives in Melbourne says it's not, what do you say?the_heart_attack wrote:
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
i got a few guns and go hunting heaps hear in aus.
we can go all year round, although deer is best and biggest around easter time here.
im lucky as canberra is surrounded by bush and have a few mates with good propertys within 30 mins of my house!!
the main thing we shoot though is roos (kangaroos) as they are everywhere and are a pain in the arse for farmers.
and to dispell any rumors about them they are not the nice animal everyone might think.
they growl at you like blood hungry pitbulls and can grab you with there arms and split your guts open with there claw on the legs (iv seen one do it to a dog)
but we also do alot of pig hunting for wild bores and sows, not that many round canberra but a few hrs drive away there is plenty in western N.S.W.
its comming into summer here in aus and we have daylight saving so its great time for shooting in the arvo's.
Last edited by dshak (2005-11-17 22:19:12)
roo leather is real tough shit, alot of companies use it for there motorcycle leathers, arlen ness i think are advertising roo leather in there jackets.Burning_Monkey wrote:
I hear roo leather is great for making boots out of though. It's pretty much indestructiable. Kind of like oyster beard gloves.
I don't do much hunting, but I have no problem with it at all. As pest control or for food, I see nothing wrong with hunting.
I think I've seen boots made of the stuff too. I wouldn't mind getting a pair of those. Stuff wears like steal though from what I hear. Takes for ever to break in and makes your feet hurt like hell.the_heart_attack wrote:
roo leather is real tough shit, alot of companies use it for there motorcycle leathers, arlen ness i think are advertising roo leather in there jackets.Burning_Monkey wrote:
I hear roo leather is great for making boots out of though. It's pretty much indestructiable. Kind of like oyster beard gloves.
I don't do much hunting, but I have no problem with it at all. As pest control or for food, I see nothing wrong with hunting.
All too often non-hunters equate hunting with killing. Many believe to be a successful hunter that you must kill. Unfortunately, they do not realize that hunting is not about killing. What confuses the issue is the fact that nearly all successful hunters spend 99% of their time a field admiring wildlife and the outdoors in general.dshak wrote:
I think it would be a LOT more interesting if perhaps we could equip the deer with rocket propelled grenades, or at the very least teach them to lay claymores.
I'm one of those people who supports hunting only if it is a means of feeding oneself. Killing something, ANYTHING, for sport is just about the worst action another living thing can take in my opinion. I also find the above post to be unbelievable... you just don't know nature until you've shot and killed it. give me a friggin break. please.
I especially liked the part about nature undisturbed... that is except for the guy with the 22 trying to find things to murder.
Now if you will excuse me I'm off to meet with the other hippies...
Last edited by -=1stInF.|Slappey (2005-11-18 01:28:54)
Yea, it does, i used to have a pair back in the day. however, once i had em worn in, i loved em.Burning_Monkey wrote:
I think I've seen boots made of the stuff too. I wouldn't mind getting a pair of those. Stuff wears like steal though from what I hear. Takes for ever to break in and makes your feet hurt like hell.the_heart_attack wrote:
roo leather is real tough shit, alot of companies use it for there motorcycle leathers, arlen ness i think are advertising roo leather in there jackets.Burning_Monkey wrote:
I hear roo leather is great for making boots out of though. It's pretty much indestructiable. Kind of like oyster beard gloves.
I don't do much hunting, but I have no problem with it at all. As pest control or for food, I see nothing wrong with hunting.
The reason people equate hunting with killing is because the definition fo hunting is to "pursue and then kill". I also think that hunting is fine if you're doing it for the food, but I don't really think you can call it "sport" until you give the deer the same weapons you have. I understand what you mean about the experiencing nature aspect of it, but ultimately the goal of hunting is killing animals. If that weren't the goal, they wouldn't call it hunting, they'd call it "Nature experiencing". That's my position. I don't like hate everyone that hunts, but I don't consider it a sport or a respectable activity.-=1stInF.|Slappey wrote:
All too often non-hunters equate hunting with killing. Many believe to be a successful hunter that you must kill. Unfortunately, they do not realize that hunting is not about killing. What confuses the issue is the fact that nearly all successful hunters spend 99% of their time a field admiring wildlife and the outdoors in general.dshak wrote:
I think it would be a LOT more interesting if perhaps we could equip the deer with rocket propelled grenades, or at the very least teach them to lay claymores.
I'm one of those people who supports hunting only if it is a means of feeding oneself. Killing something, ANYTHING, for sport is just about the worst action another living thing can take in my opinion. I also find the above post to be unbelievable... you just don't know nature until you've shot and killed it. give me a friggin break. please.
I especially liked the part about nature undisturbed... that is except for the guy with the 22 trying to find things to murder.
Now if you will excuse me I'm off to meet with the other hippies...
Just wonderin here, have you ever sat in the wood for 4-5 hours, all the while remaining perfectly still? If not, then you won't understand what i am talking about(then again, if you have done that, you probably wouldn't have misunderstood my post). As i said in my other post, it's not the shooting that makes hunting so addicting, it's the experience. Seeing nature the way it truly is, when man isn't around. Virtually all of the hunters time is spent observing their quarry's habits, movements and learning about the animals environment. In other words a nature walk with a goal. Maybe you should re-read my last post, but this time, with an open mind. You say you don't mind hunting if it's to feed(which i fully agree with), but then you call it murder. When anyother animal kills for food, is that also concidered murder?
And just because you don't always agree with hunting doesn't make you a hippie, it makes you a lover of wildlife. Just like most of us who hunt.
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I wasnt Gonna say this but. " There You Go Again "dshak wrote:
I think it would be a LOT more interesting if perhaps we could equip the deer with rocket propelled grenades, or at the very least teach them to lay claymores.
I'm one of those people who supports hunting only if it is a means of feeding oneself. Killing something, ANYTHING, for sport is just about the worst action another living thing can take in my opinion. I also find the above post to be unbelievable... you just don't know nature until you've shot and killed it. give me a friggin break. please.
I especially liked the part about nature undisturbed... that is except for the guy with the 22 trying to find things to murder.
Now if you will excuse me I'm off to meet with the other hippies...
Exactly. If it's all about experiencing nature, why are you packing a rifle?dshak wrote:
I spent one summer doing observation and tracking of bighorn sheep for the national park service when I lived in colorado, so to clarify... yes I have spent hours on end in nature either looking for or watching animals. I don't think you need to conclude your experience by blasting their heads off to truly know what its like.
id love to go for a shoot in NZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tyferra wrote:
I love hunting, I don't get to do it often though. I live in New Zealand which is a bloody paradise for hunting, we always seem to get rich Americans over here. It's like tramping, but with a purpose.