JimmyBotswana wrote:
phnxfrhwk wrote:
Oddly enough would you really want the world knowing where we keep them? If we did that then hell half of the US population would be down there trying to kill them (if it wasnt in Cuba anyways). The terrorists are probably a heck of a lot safer there with the CIA and the CIA's interrogation (which is probably just sodium penthanol anyways).
Ya. Sure. That's what the "terrorists" need to worry about. US citizens storming the prisons and killing them. What are you high? This isn't 14th century Europe and Americans aren't armed with torches and pitchforks.
First of all, we don't even know who is in there. Sure, they could be terrorists, or they could be political prisoners. These are secret prisons. The government doesn't tell us who is in there. Stalin said his prison camps were full of terrorists and counter-revolutionaries. In reality they were full of people he deemed to be enemies, people opposed to him, political prisoners. When the government incarcerates people it deems to be enemies of the state and doesn't tell the people who they are or what they have done, that is the definition of tyranny.
Good post Jimmy i think the same way.
I find it funny when ppl just say, "hey this doesn't affect my life who cares if there are secret prisions or not", i wonder what the german people think about the nazi camps at that time, i bet +/- the same. So as long as your life goes the way you want they can bend the constitution, torture ppl, target civilians in wars, attack sovereign country's and so on.
Thats the way things go and they only change when ppl realise their lifes are affected and that is went shit hit the fence, for the germans that time was when they realised they were loosing the war and bombs where falling from the skies like rain then they started thinking is it really good for me to continue with the nazi goverment? Well you know they did this and that.
In only one of this ways are americans going to get some sense into their heads.
That is if they get one too many soldiers killed at wars, when you know that one of your buddies, son, father is killed in the war you can change your opinion on war very fast like appened in vietnam.
The economy crashes because of war wage so people are getting fired and start thinking well this isn't working.
Other way is for someone to stop them.
After lots of posts i've seen i realised only 1thing, most of the american people just don't care about if other people get killed, put to prison tortured etc, they just wanna get on with their life living the old fashion american way.
As long as it doesn't affect me i don't care that is the american slogan. In europe ppl think a little bit diferently and i'm glad of it because this way of life just makes me sick.
Your president is caugh lying and lying and lying and you say "who cares" and even worst you believe somethings he says, how can you believe the word of a man that lied so many times? Would you believe your neighbour if he lied as often as Bush?
A lot of stuff from the 9/11 didn't came out too but who cares right? Why bother get into details? It's only some thousand people and most of it you didn't even knew.
Question "what did iraq had to do with 9/11 mister bush?"
Response "Nothing"
After he said it otherwise before...
So question yourselfs american and think for a while, did this this man that lied 100times told you the truth about 9/11? was it really the talibans? Does iran got or will get nuclear weapons? Is there a 2nd 9/11 plan so that america can attack iran?
That last one i can aswer and the response is yes but gess what i'm not the one who's going to die on it so if i were american i would say "who cares if the CIA sponsoring taliban carries out attacks on it's how ppl" that is americans problem.
But i'm not like that, people should care and question things but they don't and it's just sad because that's the way some people really are.
Sorry about going off topic a lot just couldn't help it.
