Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6890|Warlord

rainynight65 wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Unscoped, with a sniper rifle? Barn: miss.
Let me put it like this - if the unzoomed rifle is pointed at a teamie, you will hit him with 99.99% probability.
Murphy's Law? Yeah, judging by how bad luck can be in this game that's when a shot like that would succeed.

rainynight65 wrote:

I managed to hit an opponent once with the unzoomed rifle, but that was at less than point blank range.
I've done it a few times in 300+ hours sniping in BF2, twice by accident (didn't mean to shoot at all), but it's a complete and total fluke unless the enemy is right in front of the muzzle... assuming there isn't a glitch out there related to this.
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6922|BC, Canada

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Err, snipers aren't suposed to come toe to toe with anyone, that's why they've got the guns that keep them at a distance.
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6804|Omaha, Nebraska!
i think snipers have always been easy to kill, after i stopped killin them with my aks i went pistol to pistol with most snipers
jonsimon
Member
+224|6758

Harmonics wrote:

Before 1.4 nerfed the bunny hopping, a good sniper could easily escape an ak101 weilding enemy or even kill him with the pistol, but now you're dead meat.

Snipers dont stand a chance coming toe to toe with other infantry now, where as before they did.

EA/Dice have totally killed this game. It's no longer fun to play and once again they've adjusted for the PFC noobs that couldnt kill someone pressing jump a few times.

Oh well.
Ohhh no, now I can't do cheap shit and I die a lot because I don't have any skill at all so I'm going to whine and bitch about it to a lot of people that don't care on an online forum and piss and moan about EA because they provided this great game for me to play that I'm still playing over a year after it came out but it sucks now because I can't be cheap.

Get over yourself man, I've never bunny hopped in my life and I get kills with every kit in any scenario. I'm not invincible, but I'm sure as hell dangerous.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7106|Alberta, Canada

I still egt pwned by snipers and there pistols, and their rifles. They somehow just shoot me right away, they use their rifles like a machine gun lol.
Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
+368|6957|San Francisco
1. Find point overlooking the field of battle, but far away from any instances requiring close quarters combat.
2. Scout the area and hide yourself well.  That ghillie suit isn't only there to be a fashion statement.
3. Use patience; aim, and shoot.
4. Relocate.
5. Repeat from step 1.

'Nuff said
BrOk_MoRdU
Psychotic Sniper Inc.
+76|6814|The Land of Claywhore

Harmonics wrote:

Before 1.4 nerfed the bunny hopping, a good sniper could easily escape an ak101 weilding enemy or even kill him with the pistol, but now you're dead meat.

Snipers dont stand a chance coming toe to toe with other infantry now, where as before they did.

EA/Dice have totally killed this game. It's no longer fun to play and once again they've adjusted for the PFC noobs that couldnt kill someone pressing jump a few times.

Oh well.
Hey, sniper killer! Put me on your leaderboard and find me ingame and we'll see how easy it is for you to kill me.I'll be waiting....
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6731
To some this topic up: their are two, and only two kinds of snipers, ones who are some bad but think they're tough, and ones who actually are tough. The creator of this topic falls in the former.

Long live 1.4, or well unless we get a 1.5
rainynight65
Member
+3|6706|KLD - ZA

Todd_Angelo wrote:

I've done it a few times in 300+ hours sniping in BF2, twice by accident (didn't mean to shoot at all), but it's a complete and total fluke unless the enemy is right in front of the muzzle... assuming there isn't a glitch out there related to this.
Try this if you haven't. Position yourself in front of a wall, one, maybe two meters away. Shoot the unzoomed rifle at the wall several times without moving and check the hitmark. It will differ with virtually every shot. An unzoomed sniper rifle is highly incalculable.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|6908

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Err, snipers aren't suposed to come toe to toe with anyone, that's why they've got the guns that keep them at a distance.
good point lol
ToXiC888
Cal players > BF2s
+40|6848|Columbus,Ohio-THE Ohio State U
What do u mean?  Snipers pwn in CQC... They either do 1 of two things.

1. Jump around and throw grenades at their feet, causing them to kill themselves and u at the same time
2. Jump around and plant claymores at their feet causing them to kill you and themselves at the same time

But they never, ever do either of these two things

1. Pull out their pistol and fight like men
2. Pull out their knife to oblige you drawn knife/shockpaddles, but would rather spam nades or clays

I despise snipers in CQC cause their all pussies who need the help of explosives to kill you, and would rather commit a suicide in the act of killing you
dknessfalls
Member
+9|6707|Corona, California
snipers are only as good as the player, if you're slow to react then of course ur gonna get ur ass shot, point is, see an enemy, prone, zoom, and hit the head, or crotch (those 2 areas are 1 hit kills), at least the crotch are i think, i mean, you'd wish it was after a hit like that
Disodium
Member
+13|6776|Sydney

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Err, snipers aren't suposed to come toe to toe with anyone, that's why they've got the guns that keep them at a distance.
Nuff said.
VspyVspy
Sniper
+183|6936|A sunburnt country

BrOk_MoRdU wrote:

Hey, sniper killer! Put me on your leaderboard and find me ingame and we'll see how easy it is for you to kill me.  I'll be waiting....
QFE
X3M*Selkie
Member
+13|6840|Belgium

ToXiC888 wrote:

What do u mean?  Snipers pwn in CQC... They either do 1 of two things.

1. Jump around and throw grenades at their feet, causing them to kill themselves and u at the same time
2. Jump around and plant claymores at their feet causing them to kill you and themselves at the same time

But they never, ever do either of these two things

1. Pull out their pistol and fight like men
2. Pull out their knife to oblige you drawn knife/shockpaddles, but would rather spam nades or clays

I despise snipers in CQC cause their all pussies who need the help of explosives to kill you, and would rather commit a suicide in the act of killing you
I guess I don't belong to the average sniperprofile you've got in mind. I don't jump, I rarely use nades, Clays are ONLY for protecting my six when I'm in my hide-out and when I get a close encounter with an enemy when running around I go pistol or knife, always. My pistol is my primary/main weapon when running to my sniping hide-out, as going prone, scoping, aiming the sniperriffle takes to long.
Maybe that's the reason that I get killed to often by noobs throwing nades at me or noobtubing???
No offense, but the 'all' should be 'some'!
Marinejuana
local
+415|6848|Seattle

Canterwood wrote:

Wow half the people who posted in this shouldn't be allowed to talk.
qfe

sniper is fine for its purpose. every now and then two teams become entrenched (at the gatehouse and train accident, perhaps) and camp their base entrance to such an extent that it wouldn't be smart to simply jog in with your rifle. At these times if u spawn sniper and from long range identify and shoot at targets that are just sitting there camping you can get tons of kills fast. This is especially true on jalalabad during infantry only matches where the US has to start out crossing so much wide open space.

About 90% of the time, you are not doing your team a favor by spawning sniper. It is almost always more useful to your team to be doing something else. Keep in mind that the sniper rifle is inferior to the m16 in a firefight out to probably 70 m provided that cover is used effectively. I absolutely abuse snipers on a regular basis.

And on a side note, just know that if I spot you and you go to lay a claymore for me, I WILL be passed the claymore and killing you by the time it is armed. I just mention this because it is almost sad to watch this futile move attempted so frequently by snipers. At least learn to use your pistol and go out with a gun in your hand. They make me feel like I'm committing a war crime or something. Does anybody else sort of feel bad killing a sniper as he tries to throw out a claymore? I mean they almost resemble an arab woman in full traditional garb running around with a dinner plate in hand....

My point is just that too many people have no clue how to use the sniper kit.
Rimbo
Member
+1|6835|Inside ur armpit.
why would any sniper engage in close quarter combat?,they hide n shot fool.
Rimbo
Member
+1|6835|Inside ur armpit.
oh im a expert sniper and i hardly ever get involved with close combat,bollox to that better to leave that to infantry etc.
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6752|Gogledd Cymru

Harmonics wrote:

Before 1.4 nerfed the bunny hopping, a good sniper could easily escape an ak101 weilding enemy or even kill him with the pistol, but now you're dead meat.

Snipers dont stand a chance coming toe to toe with other infantry now, where as before they did.

EA/Dice have totally killed this game. It's no longer fun to play and once again they've adjusted for the PFC noobs that couldnt kill someone pressing jump a few times.

Oh well.
hmmm let me see here hmm OH YEAH

Snipers have a little thing called a pistol just pump the bastards full of lead with that thing
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6752|Gogledd Cymru

Marinejuana wrote:

Canterwood wrote:

Wow half the people who posted in this shouldn't be allowed to talk.
My point is just that too many people have no clue how to use the sniper kit.
Im glad im not (well i hope im not) of them
DirtyMexican
I knife Generals
+278|6800|Search Whore killing fields
Spam claymores and when your out of claymores run in with knife
Chillin&killin
Member
+27|6938|Manchester,England
in 300 hours of sniping yesterday was probably the easiest sniping in a long time. in IO medics would run dive to revive teamate and their just sittin ducks.

as for being killed it was no different.

@ thread starter im no noob sniper either, but found it just as easy
iFro
Member
+1|6761
fog at maps like karkand, Jalalalalalalal....lalalbad - huge disadvantage for snipers, cuz all weapons can kill in one shot and hit registration system by DICE isnt too good, good ping will win. We r all talking about distance and etc. lets talk about view distance wich is same for "simple infantry" and sniper even if he s zoomed. I saw lots of duels PKM vs L96A1 aaand PKM won, players was skilled. Ive heared lots of words about "bunnyhoping for noobs",  noobs aka newcomers, newbies... know nothing about it, theyve just came to BF2 and learning trips from other players, which plaing better.

Last edited by iFro (2006-09-07 03:43:26)

Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6890|Warlord

ToXiC888 wrote:

What do u mean?  Snipers pwn in CQC...
You should have stopped right there. Although I would have added a 'can', since obviously not everyone does.

ToXiC888 wrote:

1. Jump around and throw grenades at their feet, causing them to kill themselves and u at the same time
2. Jump around and plant claymores at their feet causing them to kill you and themselves at the same time

But they never, ever do either of these two things

1. Pull out their pistol and fight like men
2. Pull out their knife to oblige you drawn knife/shockpaddles, but would rather spam nades or clays
Do you like to make sweeping generalisations about other kits too?

Jesus dude, a total vehicle whore like you should be careful about pointing fingers for being cheap.

ToXiC888 wrote:

I despise snipers in CQC cause their...
It's 'cause and they're.

ToXiC888 wrote:

...who need the help of explosives to kill you...
So you never use your grenades? Oh yeah, since you've only spent about a quarter of your total time actually 'fighting like a man' you don't really need grenades, do you?

ToXiC888 wrote:

...and would rather commit a suicide in the act of killing you
Nobody would rather commit suicide than kill the other guy and come out alive.

Me? I'd rather shoot them with my rifle then pull out the pistol to finish them off in really close-up encounters... if it weren't for scope lag (Every. Single. Game) and the 5% of shots that don't register, even at ranges like 1m, seemingly just when it's least convenient.

ToXiC888 wrote:

2. Pull out their knife to oblige you drawn knife/shockpaddles, but would rather spam nades or clays
Back to this bit, oblige you? If someone comes at me with the knife and I see (or hear) them that's their problem; they get shot


Marinejuana wrote:

About 90% of the time, you are not doing your team a favor by spawning sniper. It is almost always more useful to your team to be doing something else.
Well at least you didn't do the usual and talk in absolutes.

Marinejuana wrote:

Keep in mind that the sniper rifle is inferior to the m16 in a firefight out to probably 70 m provided that cover is used effectively.
But then you went and made the mistake of saying this. This may be true of many, even most, players using the sniper kit in the game, but it's not a rule or anything, "Sniper rifles are inferior to M16s in BF2".

Marinejuana wrote:

I absolutely abuse snipers on a regular basis.
Looking at your stats that may be true as you seem to be much better than average as infantry, but don't apply your standard to everyone. I'm not that good but I regularly outscore a dozen/two dozen guys on my team using LMGs, carbines or assault rifles; I can also often score faster than most of them can; again, regularly (see links in my post on page 2).


Rimbo wrote:

why would any sniper engage in close quarter combat?,they hide n shot fool.
'Cause some of us like to cap and defend flags, directly support our squad etc.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6726|cuntshitlake

allfive6 wrote:

Sniper are always easy kills has only noobs play sniper
http://bf2s.com/player/43386237/ <-------- says a TOTAL vehicle Whore. 74% of kills in a vehicle?!?!?
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg

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