MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|6777|EUR
I love sniping - sounds like its gonna get better, hopefully not overpowering thoe.
Phatso
The Moisture
+49|6697|South Africa
imho it'll promote squad play.

No one wants anyone else to have their tags (its like the biggest humiliation-proof that you got owned)
So people will stick with their SL's in order to see the camo'd bastids.

On the other hand, i'm gonna enjoy collecting dog-tags...
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|6690|arica harbour
thats good the cameo works and fun to use. 

in bf2 spec ops soldiers are " Elite soldiers specialized in stealth and sabotage".. well it does not take much to spot a spec ops running around the place. the best way to rack up a bunch of kills without vehicle whoring with spec ops is to neutralize your opponent without anyone seeing you. that goes the same for sniper.

i used to play Aliens versus predator 2 multiplayer back in 2001-2002. yeah the aliens can see a cloaked predator but the marines can barely see a cloaked predator. 90% of the time, predator owns marines.

the only problem is, the servers will be filled with cameo ninjas. please people, if you are in beta or are getting the game , please dont abuse it too much. look at what they did to the minigun in the blackhawk and the grenade launcher for the assault kit: they nerfed it bad because people would abuse it.

then again, i bet EA will tweak the cameo so people would not be super invisible and invicible.
JaM3z
Banned
+311|6712
the camo is worth a good laugh, i love it when a guy apears out of no where trying to knife me, only to get ripepd apart by my shotgun.

GG for camo nubs that thinks it makes them completly invisible.
[[[@lph@]]]_Templar
Member
+20|6459|UK

SargeV1.4 wrote:

It's hilarious to watch people get a fright and twitch resulting in them aiming at some random place making the kill even easier .
LOL! Im mainly sniper on BF2 so cnt wait to be the recon class on 2142
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6722|California

i seriously laugh at everyone that thinks they will be a good sniper in 2142
thefousteph
Member
+8|6733

B.Schuss wrote:

well, active camo on Recon makes proper squad play even more important. If you are infantry, always run around with a squad, so the SL can spot the enemy Recon ( via the drone ) or the Assault guy can revive you if you are knifed from behind. I figure that Lone Wolfes will have a hard time in 2142, if they aren't playing Recon themselves.

My guess is people will have to learn to pay better attention to what is happening around them and - more importantly - will have to learn to organize their defense of the Titan and the Silos in a more sophisticated way.
And I think that fits perfectly into the teamplay-orientated approach EA seems to take with some of the new features in 2142.

Learn - Adapt - Overcome.
I agree - if you work as a team, with other soldier near you a camo dude will be cold meat in no time once it has knifed or shot one your squad mate. Maybe he will be detected b4 even coming close to it's goal.

I hope it will not be nerfed down to a useless device.

Good topic! +1
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6691|Tampa Bay Florida

stryyker wrote:

i seriously laugh at everyone that thinks they will be a good sniper in 2142
I've heard the sniper rifles are pretty crappy.  Is that why you say that?

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-08-24 18:34:23)

fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6492|Menlo Park, CA

Spearhead wrote:

stryyker wrote:

i seriously laugh at everyone that thinks they will be a good sniper in 2142
I've heard the sniper rifles are pretty crappy.  Is that why you say that?
The sniper gun is not that great, its only one we have been using. . .  I think overall the weapons are a tad underpowered at the moment.  Its only a beta, I am pretty sure its not done being tweaked with. . .
JdeFalconr
Lex Luthor, King of Australia
+72|6544|Sammamish, WA

M_Harrower wrote:

I really don't want it to be nerfed and, as it is, I don't think it'll ruin gameplay.

There are a lot of drawbacks to camo. While using it:

-When sprinting you become slighty more visible

-You can't shoot

-It makes a noise

-You're not 100% invisible

-You can't change weapons

And it's only usable for a short amount of tme before it has to recharge.
Ok how to fix all these problems:

1. Dont sprint and this isn't a problem.

2. Dont shoot and this isn't a problem.

3. Don't get too close if it makes noise! Or use it in a loud place.

4. If you move slowly this drawback is minimized and from a distance it'll be tough to spot you.

5. Choose the weapon you want before you go invisible and it won't matter if you need to switch.
ShadowFoX
I Hate Claymores
+109|6533
Chances are it will get nerfed a lot of noobs are whinning again.
manitobapaintballa
Member
+32|6620
whos whining??? it better not get nerfed like seriously i got shot a few times because i was spotted
blacksheepcannibal
Member
+24|6754
yeah, itll get nerfed. too many idiots complaining about it. Hopefully, it will simple be that the time it takes to put on and take off the stealth will be increased by a second or two. That should balance it out.

Knowing DICE, they will probably drop the time it lasts, and increase the recharge time tho. sad. I do alot of stealthing around in BF2 as spec ops, I was looking foward to actually stealthing around in BF2142.
ez2kill
Member
+2|6474

Delphy wrote:

God, i'm going to hate invisible assholes c4ing my tank... grr.
hahaha!!!! Tank Whores everywhere are  pissing their pants!!!

Last edited by ez2kill (2006-08-25 12:00:45)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6495|N. Ireland
I thought you weren't allowed to give out BF2142 secrets? .....
saber66
Member
+12|6457
it is a cool idea and concept...but like he said, it does run out of juice and it does take time to recharge, so you arent a ghost for a long time, and your camo does run out

i think they will find a way to make it so people that use it arent god like and can cuase massacres
_The.Don_05
Im super serial
+58|6585|England

stryyker wrote:

i seriously laugh at everyone that thinks they will be a good sniper in 2142
Lol I will join you in that laugh, as they shall change their mind when they get the game!
Proxus
Member
+4|6456
honestly i havent been RDX'd(c4'd) by a cloaker yet lol, and iv been tankwhoring since i got in

Yes the sniper rifles suck balls, and the unlock rifle isint a huge improvment.
And with APM(claymores) sliding around like you droped them on ice, and falling through 80% of the catwalks and ramps, your best bet as a sniper ATM is to eqip RDX and active camo so you can snipe/c4 vehicles if they come to pester you, and cloak to relocate...

but mid range is ideal for the current rifles because if you go long distance, the scope movement from your breathing gets insanely bad.(and the rifles arent that accurate /cry)
Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6454|UK
People should seriously play the beta before they shout nerf because its not overpowering at all im not going to break the NDA or shall i say break it more than already in this thread but i think its perfectly balanced and thats coming from someone who hasn't even got it yet Ive been killed once by a recon walking up to a tank i was in and killing me but in the open areas it would be impossible for anyone without active camo to get close to a tank with a gunner so i think it works perfectly unless you want tank whores all over.

Then when your on a titan yes if your really really good you could maybe kill a few people but i think if a squad is covering its self if one person goes down i personally would probably see it and they look a bit like predator so you can see them when they move and they have a shadow i believe. On top of that they have to uncloak to stab then re-cloak so spot them then and your whole squad knows where they are through net bat so it ain't as straight forward as killing 10 people in a row with out any problems so i think people should chill out until they find out.
Andoura
Got loooollllll ?
+853|6640|Montreal, Qc, Canada
i think this is not a good think, being invicible gives something more do other people... to me everybody should be normal no invisible shitty stuff
Home
Section.80
+447|6849|Seattle, Washington, USA

JdeFalconr wrote:

M_Harrower wrote:

I really don't want it to be nerfed and, as it is, I don't think it'll ruin gameplay.

There are a lot of drawbacks to camo. While using it:

-When sprinting you become slighty more visible

-You can't shoot

-It makes a noise

-You're not 100% invisible

-You can't change weapons

And it's only usable for a short amount of tme before it has to recharge.
Ok how to fix all these problems:

1. Dont sprint and this isn't a problem.

2. Dont shoot and this isn't a problem.

3. Don't get too close if it makes noise! Or use it in a loud place.

4. If you move slowly this drawback is minimized and from a distance it'll be tough to spot you.

5. Choose the weapon you want before you go invisible and it won't matter if you need to switch.
Ok, if we follow your 1-4 rules there is basically no point to the camo, because you won't get any kills. And to number 5, camo is an item. You have to equip it to use it.
Zukabazuka
Member
+23|6687
hmm 1 squad full with snipers and a the SL have the portable UAV your squad can become pretty deadly.
starman7
Member
+15|6726
A, the UAV would make any attempts at stealth laughable.  And if somebody suspected that there was an invis squad, I think that the commander's UAV can detect them.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6527|South Florida

SargeV1.4 wrote:

the recon's camouflage device absolutely rules. People can barely see you at all, certainly not if they don't know you're there. the camo does run out of charge in the end but it recharges quickly. You can sneak up on people so easily. Just stay down a little bit and you can walk straight up to an enemy tank, plant some C4, and run. of course camo makes knifing really easy, but it's great fun. You can also walk right past the enemies in the corridors of the titan to blow up the consoles without trouble.

the only problem are the guns, untill you unlock the carbine (fourth unlock) you're stuck with a sniper rifle so sneaky knife kills are a must. Capping silo's is easy, no one will stop you on the way there and if you plant some C4 on any entrances to a silo you can quickly switch from camo to the detonator and blow up anyone that approaches. The carbine itself is great though, I love it. Very accurate.

You can switch from camo to a gun pretty quickly, so don't be surprised if a soldier appears out of thin air in front of you and shoots you down before you can even aim at him. It's hilarious to watch people get a fright and twitch resulting in them aiming at some random place making the kill even easier

all in all the camouflage is a great tool and it's one of the few things I'm really happy about in BF2142.
I agree man, what i usually do, is when you launch into the air out of an apc, and you just hit the ground, i hold the camo real quick, so that when the dust cleares, im already invisible. Then ill get around back of a missle silo, switch to my lambert, and pop out and blast down some people.

But, i think we need to clear some things up for the people here who think "Oh the camo is so gay cause it will be TOO good and people will over use it..."
You have to switch to the Camo and HOLD down the button to stay invisible, you CANNOT go invisible then switch weapons, cause as soon as you switch weapons, your visible again.

Anyways, i agree the Camo is an excellent edition to the game. To bad there isnt a better weapon then the lambert for the Recon kit. :-\
15 more years! 15 more years!
starman7
Member
+15|6726

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Anyways, i agree the Camo is an excellent edition to the game.
Just a little typo there, it's an "addition" to the game.  English can be confusing, no?

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