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right now in California the Illegal aliens are really bad though, we had that protest last year half the kids in the school were gone and i live in northern california

I don't think America is in danger of imminent collapse, but Illegal aliens definitely not only bring in some crime and a lot of drugs, but they bring in with them possible terrorists, i can't remember where i got this from but they have been finding Quran's on the paths illegal aliens travel, and Qurans mean Muslims, which are possible terrorists.

No i'm not saying all muslims are terrorists

Rellim83 wrote:

So your saying that mexicans trying to get their kids a better education is going to ruin our country? Rome failed becasue a hostile army invaded....i dont really see the connection between that and a few mexicans trying to make better lives for themselves.

And you live in PA ans have no idea what it is like to live less than an hour from the border and how it is effecting everything around us.

Ether151 wrote:

Rellim83 wrote:

So your saying that Mexicans trying to get their kids a better education is going to ruin our country? Rome failed because a hostile army invaded....i dint really see the connection between that and a few Mexicans trying to make better lives for themselves.

And you live in PA ans have no idea what it is like to live less than an hour from the border and how it is effecting everything around us.

Well I do live close to the border. And its not what you claim. All these illegals are trying to get a better life. Why do they come here? Maybe because on the Statue of Liberty it says :
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
See Mexicans come hear for a chance to live the dream. The same dreams that so many of us take for granted. Look at the news and tell me the US isn't the greatest place on Earth to live and raise a family. The Us has become what it has due to all the different ethnicities coming together and forming a great nation.

Sure, now were all concerned about the terrorists sneaking in (by way of Canada last I checked) and wreaking havoc. But punishing the poor migrants and lumping them together with the 19 9/11 bastards is wrong.
BTW: Mexicans really do share the same ideas and goals of us here in the good old US of A. So more Mexican immigrants doesn't mean the death of the west. On the contrary it will infuse this country with people who are HUNGRY for a piece of the dream.

Last edited by rawls2 (2006-08-20 19:39:28)

rawls2 wrote:

Ether151 wrote:

Rellim83 wrote:

So your saying that Mexicans trying to get their kids a better education is going to ruin our country? Rome failed because a hostile army invaded....i dint really see the connection between that and a few Mexicans trying to make better lives for themselves.

And you live in PA ans have no idea what it is like to live less than an hour from the border and how it is effecting everything around us.

Well I do live close to the border. And its not what you claim. All these illegals are trying to get a better life. Why do they come here? Maybe because on the Statue of Liberty it says :
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
See Mexicans come hear for a chance to live the dream. The same dreams that so many of us take for granted. Look at the news and tell me the US isn't the greatest place on Earth to live and raise a family. The Us has become what it has due to all the different ethnicities coming together and forming a great nation.

Sure, now were all concerned about the terrorists sneaking in (by way of Canada last I checked) and wreaking havoc. But punishing the poor migrants and lumping them together with the 19 9/11 bastards is wrong.
BTW: Mexicans really do share the same ideas and goals of us here in the good old US of A. So more Mexican immigrants doesn't mean the death of the west. On the contrary it will infuse this country with people who are HUNGRY for a piece of the dream.

So, can you explain to be how having an open border policy will better serve the survival of our nation over th next 100 yrs?

Do you reject all laws or just those concerning the border?

Can you tell me if you are willing to sacrifice whatever social security you might have had so that illegal alien Mexicans can continue to receive benefits?

Last edited by ATG (2006-08-20 21:13:35)

I'm not for Illegal immagrants at all. But America isn't the number 1 country in the world so please stop with your grade school bable about that, last I read we ranked number 13 in best country's in the world to live in.


  The main problem with the illegals is that they are a drain on our resources, majority of them make more then minimal wage and their still cheaper then U.S. Citizen working. If you think the people are mowing the lawns for 5 dollars an hour you are way wrong. They are getting paid around 10-15 dollars and it's still cheaper then paying a U.S. citizen 8 dollars an hour.

Bertster7 wrote:

It's the same in a lot of countries. There are big problems with immigration in the UK and look how small the UK is, with a population of 60+ million.

Some immigration is always a good thing, unless your country has an unreasonable high population, the birth rate inthe west is declining and to keep populations steady a bit of immigration is good - just not too much.

You'd better watch out, could end up with your country being run by the Mexicans - look at Palestine, it's what happened there....

I dont think so. Mexicans will never bite the hand that feeds them.

ATG wrote:

Bell High Schoolis the  4th largest high school in America and is 99% Mexican, 85% percent of which are born to the familes of illegal aliens

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

because illegal aliens

Blehm98 wrote:

Lets see, 9 of 10 illegal aliens

What's with the "illegal aliens" thing? Last time I looked they were Mexicans rather than little green men.

Rellim83 wrote:

Rome failed becasue a hostile army invaded

Lots of armies invaded and not so much armies but entire peoples. It wasn't a few people come over for a bit of pillage, it was mass migration by people displaced by Huns and various others.

Also, that Rome was living beyond her means economically may have had just a little bit to do with the collapse... (think of the US deficit here)

Well here in Europe we have reasonably relaxed borders as I haven't seen the first horsemen so I'm thinking we'll all be fine.

Rellim83 wrote:

So your saying that mexicans trying to get their kids a better education is going to ruin our country? Rome failed becasue a hostile army invaded....i dont really see the connection between that and a few mexicans trying to make better lives for themselves.

Two things wrong with your post, One is you forgot the word Illegal, and Second, The word Few should read Millions.

I'm dumbfounded by the whole thing.

IL-legal, means AGAINST the law. IF you're here against the law you need to be imprisoned until your country of origin takes you back, not given in-state tuition waivers and medical care on the backs of our taxpayers.

Fucking ridiculous.

We need an enormous electrified fence and I don't care who gets killed trying to crawl over it.

Go back to your country, LEARN ENGLISH, mail a resume to "JobSeekers USA" (or any number of 1,000 other similar services which will crop up), apply for a Visa and a taxpayer ID (social or similar), and come across when it's your turn.

Work hard, pay your taxes, get promoted, buy a house, move your family over, teach your children to value education and the opportunity that the Good Old United States of America has given you, and call yourself a success.

Sneaking across the border, living 20 to a shitty rent house, speaking a different language, getting paid in cash and hiding from the IRS, getting in legal trouble in bar fights (in Texas illegal immigrants are 12 times overrepresented in DWIs and alcohol related crimes), and refusing to become part of the culture of the United States is not an answer, it's bullshit. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of radio stations in Spanish, ATMs making me push "English", customer service lines making me push one for English, and so forth.

COME ON OVER, we LOVE anyone who wants to get here, roll up their sleeves, get to work, and become a team player. Don't fly the Goddamned flag of your OLD country, fly the flag of the GREAT nation that gave you the opportunity the live the way you're living. Don't fight the culture, join it. Learn the language, join the system, be a team player, and welcome to America. Otherwise, fuck off, I hope you get caught in the electric fence.

ATG wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

Ether151 wrote:

And you live in PA ans have no idea what it is like to live less than an hour from the border and how it is effecting everything around us.

Well I do live close to the border. And its not what you claim. All these illegals are trying to get a better life. Why do they come here? Maybe because on the Statue of Liberty it says :
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
See Mexicans come hear for a chance to live the dream. The same dreams that so many of us take for granted. Look at the news and tell me the US isn't the greatest place on Earth to live and raise a family. The Us has become what it has due to all the different ethnicities coming together and forming a great nation.

Sure, now were all concerned about the terrorists sneaking in (by way of Canada last I checked) and wreaking havoc. But punishing the poor migrants and lumping them together with the 19 9/11 bastards is wrong.
BTW: Mexicans really do share the same ideas and goals of us here in the good old US of A. So more Mexican immigrants doesn't mean the death of the west. On the contrary it will infuse this country with people who are HUNGRY for a piece of the dream.

So, can you explain to be how having an open border policy will better serve the survival of our nation over th next 100 yrs?

Do you reject all laws or just those concerning the border?

Can you tell me if you are willing to sacrifice whatever social security you might have had so that illegal alien Mexicans can continue to receive benefits?

The United States has always had an open border policy. Thats why its such a great place and why everybody wants to be an American.

I recognize all laws, however some more than others. When it comes to my ancestral people, I tend to want to bend the rules a little.

I tend to think the current state of morals in this country is a greater threat than millions of of illegals from Mexico.

Last edited by rawls2 (2006-08-21 10:25:34)

I think we pull out of Iraq and invade Mexico.  Then they have no where to go.  They will get an immediate incerease in wages, what more could they ask?  [ Humor ]