HURLEY
Ima Crunchatize you.
+170|6945|The Lou
https://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3743/screenshotso5.jpg

soo, if i know a guys fromo europe and hes a dick... and i said, your just some european asshole.... you wouldnt take any offence?
ht_fly
Member
+6|6728|Chicago
Vilham

Those websites suck!

If that is where you get all you economic information from, on the U.S. Economy, then you should shoot your teachers for teaching you a biased view of economic research.

There are way better websites that explain the U.S. Economy and what might be wrong with it and what is going good.

By the way, the inflation rate just went down, which is a aspect in measuring the economies performance.

I would also suggest you read the whole FT and wallstreet journal to also get a perspective on economies, and also watch the bond markets.

But you are right, If the US economy tanks, that means all of the worlds economies will take a hit too, in some degree. Since we are the largest purchaser of goods that are imported or consumer economy.

By the way, a lot of the crap on the internet is just crap! I could probably find articles on why two donkeys humping in Saskatchewan Canada and how the press covered it show how the US economy is going to tank because the production of Hungarian Salami does not have one of its main ingredients.

But then again, I could be full of shit!
BVC
Member
+325|6958

ht_fly wrote:

Now if we shared our cheese with the rest of the world with our other fine dairy products, it would bring a misty tear to my eye and then we would have no terrorist since most of the population would turn out to be lactose intolerant and sitting on the can.
We're already trying that tactic, its only making things worse
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7028|UK

ht_fly wrote:

Vilham

Those websites suck!

If that is where you get all you economic information from, on the U.S. Economy, then you should shoot your teachers for teaching you a biased view of economic research.

There are way better websites that explain the U.S. Economy and what might be wrong with it and what is going good.

By the way, the inflation rate just went down, which is a aspect in measuring the economies performance.

I would also suggest you read the whole FT and wallstreet journal to also get a perspective on economies, and also watch the bond markets.

But you are right, If the US economy tanks, that means all of the worlds economies will take a hit too, in some degree. Since we are the largest purchaser of goods that are imported or consumer economy.

By the way, a lot of the crap on the internet is just crap! I could probably find articles on why two donkeys humping in Saskatchewan Canada and how the press covered it show how the US economy is going to tank because the production of Hungarian Salami does not have one of its main ingredients.

But then again, I could be full of shit!
So the BBC talks crap yeah? CNN too i guess?? They are all talking about America entering a recession, the worlds top economists are saying it, Dont try to tell me you arent when you literally know very little about it.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6844|SE London

ht_fly wrote:

Vilham

Those websites suck!

If that is where you get all you economic information from, on the U.S. Economy, then you should shoot your teachers for teaching you a biased view of economic research.

There are way better websites that explain the U.S. Economy and what might be wrong with it and what is going good.

By the way, the inflation rate just went down, which is a aspect in measuring the economies performance.

I would also suggest you read the whole FT and wallstreet journal to also get a perspective on economies, and also watch the bond markets.

But you are right, If the US economy tanks, that means all of the worlds economies will take a hit too, in some degree. Since we are the largest purchaser of goods that are imported or consumer economy.

By the way, a lot of the crap on the internet is just crap! I could probably find articles on why two donkeys humping in Saskatchewan Canada and how the press covered it show how the US economy is going to tank because the production of Hungarian Salami does not have one of its main ingredients.

But then again, I could be full of shit!
Well Bloomberg, the Times, the G8 and Alan Greenspan all seem to think the US economy is headed for serious trouble. I'd listen to them.

I watch Bloomberg most days and have seen a lot of dicussions about how the US economy is on a knife edge - that is not to say it is doomed, it could easily be pulled back. The reversal of Bush's tax cuts would generate an additional $600 billion in revenue for the government, which would be a quick instant fix. It would not even be neccessary to bring taxes up to the levels they were before Bush cut them, just bring them up a bit, maybe to a halfway point and the economy would be fine - just don't leave it too late.

Bush has had record levels of deficit under his administration. Not just in one year, but many. Economic growth has helped to deal with this, but America's finances are slowly trickling away...

If the US's financial situation is sooooo great - why have the G8 asked them to exercise 'fiscal constraint' (source - Bloomberg.com), why has Alan Greenspan said if the deficit issue is not addressed immediately there will be 'severe consequences' (BBC) and why have the deficits under Bush been the largest under any US president ever?
HM1{N}
Member
+86|6906|East Coast via Los Angeles, CA

CameronPoe wrote:

I'd like American citizens to post the reasons they reckon people from Europe (and elsewhere) are generally disgruntled with USA at the moment. We (the rest of the world) can then iron out any misconceptions you might have. Do not post irrational garbage and do not drag this into some kind of flame war or else I'll delete the thread. I merely wish to break down any understanding barriers that might interfere with rational debate elsewhere on this forum.
1.  Because we blindly follow Israel like dogs
2.  Because they lost soldiers fighting in Iraq
3.  Because Bush is an idiot.
4.  Because we keep winning the Tour de France. 

Seriously, as an American I think that people's perceptions of us as a "people" are way off.  Most people outside of this country are unable to differentiate between our politicians goals, and the American citizens ideology.

We may have a democratically elected government, but they don't always do as we wish (well, almost always they don't).
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6844|SE London

HM1{N} wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I'd like American citizens to post the reasons they reckon people from Europe (and elsewhere) are generally disgruntled with USA at the moment. We (the rest of the world) can then iron out any misconceptions you might have. Do not post irrational garbage and do not drag this into some kind of flame war or else I'll delete the thread. I merely wish to break down any understanding barriers that might interfere with rational debate elsewhere on this forum.
1.  Because we blindly follow Israel like dogs
2.  Because they lost soldiers fighting in Iraq
3.  Because Bush is an idiot.
4.  Because we keep winning the Tour de France. 

Seriously, as an American I think that people's perceptions of us as a "people" are way off.  Most people outside of this country are unable to differentiate between our politicians goals, and the American citizens ideology.

We may have a democratically elected government, but they don't always do as we wish (well, almost always they don't).
Didn't the guy who won the Tour de France this year cheat?

There are other reasons too, that have already been pointed out - wasteful ignorance and dismissive attitudes towards the rest of the world don't do anything for US popularity.

The problem is that a lot of Americans I've spoken to DO support Bush and his crazy foreign policy and the backing of Israel on anything at all - I could post some quotes from this thread and others but I don't think I need to, you know the sort of thing I'm talking about. The problem is that these 'less well regarded on the international stage Americans', shall we call them - are ruining the reputation of your country for all the rest of you, who are perfectly sensible civilised people.
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7005|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann
Floyd Landis used hax in the last tour de france dirty cheat..
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6804|Texas - Bigger than France

Bertster7 wrote:

Didn't the guy who won the Tour de France this year cheat?
Going for the patrotic award here,

He still won.  Rules?  What rules?  Those rules don't apply to us, Americans, Fuck Yeah!

Is this pretty close to how you think we are overseas?  Cuz it's not - HM1N got it right...
specops10-4
Member
+108|7005|In the hills

Bertster7 wrote:

JaMDuDe wrote:

I think the europeans dont like us because we have bad leadership, they dont like wars(we do like to kick some arse when there is good reason for it), and there are rumors spreading that say we went to iraq for oil and stuff like that. And they are becoming muslim so its part of their culture to hate us.
A swing and a miss.
Nice job adopting american jargon...
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6844|SE London

Pug wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Didn't the guy who won the Tour de France this year cheat?
Going for the patrotic award here,

He still won.  Rules?  What rules?  Those rules don't apply to us, Americans, Fuck Yeah!

Is this pretty close to how you think we are overseas?  Cuz it's not - HM1N got it right...
That's not what I said - I talked about a minority, an over exposed minority, who spoil it for the rest of Americans "who are perfectly sensible civilised people".
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6844|SE London

specops10-4 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

JaMDuDe wrote:

I think the europeans dont like us because we have bad leadership, they dont like wars(we do like to kick some arse when there is good reason for it), and there are rumors spreading that say we went to iraq for oil and stuff like that. And they are becoming muslim so its part of their culture to hate us.
A swing and a miss.
Nice job adopting american jargon...
I thought it appropriate.
smtt686
this is the best we can do?
+95|6893|USA
Why wont this thread die????
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6911

Why won't you die?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6804|Texas - Bigger than France

Bertster7 wrote:

Pug wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Didn't the guy who won the Tour de France this year cheat?
Going for the patrotic award here,

He still won.  Rules?  What rules?  Those rules don't apply to us, Americans, Fuck Yeah!

Is this pretty close to how you think we are overseas?  Cuz it's not - HM1N got it right...
That's not what I said - I talked about a minority, an over exposed minority, who spoil it for the rest of Americans "who are perfectly sensible civilised people".
It wasn't directed at you.  It was a general comment and something that agrees with your point...plus it's supposed to be a little funny.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6958|NJ
and cheating is a form of winning, even if it wasn't done by there "rules" he still beat everyone.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6844|SE London

Pug wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Pug wrote:


Going for the patrotic award here,

He still won.  Rules?  What rules?  Those rules don't apply to us, Americans, Fuck Yeah!

Is this pretty close to how you think we are overseas?  Cuz it's not - HM1N got it right...
That's not what I said - I talked about a minority, an over exposed minority, who spoil it for the rest of Americans "who are perfectly sensible civilised people".
It wasn't directed at you.  It was a general comment and something that agrees with your point...plus it's supposed to be a little funny.
Yeah I know - but there I was stereotyping you as a 'typical' ranting American - lol. I did get and appreciate the humor behind it.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

and cheating is a form of winning, even if it wasn't done by there "rules" he still beat everyone.
So could I if I cheated.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7028|UK

cpt.fass1 wrote:

and cheating is a form of winning, even if it wasn't done by there "rules" he still beat everyone.
lol ok then next year ill do the Tour de France in an F1 car and win!!! wooop that makes me better than everyone else...
smtt686
this is the best we can do?
+95|6893|USA

ghettoperson wrote:

Why won't you die?
wow
HM1{N}
Member
+86|6906|East Coast via Los Angeles, CA

Bertster7 wrote:

Pug wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Didn't the guy who won the Tour de France this year cheat?
Going for the patrotic award here,

He still won.  Rules?  What rules?  Those rules don't apply to us, Americans, Fuck Yeah!

Is this pretty close to how you think we are overseas?  Cuz it's not - HM1N got it right...
That's not what I said - I talked about a minority, an over exposed minority, who spoil it for the rest of Americans "who are perfectly sensible civilised people".
OK, so you just hit it on the head: if you recognize the over exposed minority, why can't the rest of Europe?

Kinda seems like the Europeans "shallowness", or inability to see the truth about this subject is the real cause?
ht_fly
Member
+6|6728|Chicago
Vilham

reread my post again. I was criticizing your research skillz not your outcome.

What the hell does BC Canada have authority over US economy.

You guys really jump the gun a lot.

I was not bashing your outcomes, just your research websites.

By the way I did not mention cnn or bbc. So why bring it up.

Bloomberg is a good source, so is the FT and Wall street Journal.

So is HBR, Forbes, Money, Business Week and a host of other periodicals.

Damm. your research just plain sucks!

Remember not your outcome on the economy, just the websites you listed suck.

So, get over it and learn how to do better research.

If you so good good a predicting economic performance, then why does the FED raise interest rates?
If you can answer that, then you know your shit.

If you can tell me why Bush let the dollar slide?
Then you can be the Zen master of economic outcomes and be the opinionated wall street jerk!

Other then that, learn how to research, beside using a search engine.

Then again, I could be full of shit!
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6958|NJ

Vilham wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

and cheating is a form of winning, even if it wasn't done by there "rules" he still beat everyone.
lol ok then next year ill do the Tour de France in an F1 car and win!!! wooop that makes me better than everyone else...
Yes, well lets face it even if they give the gold to the second place guy, he was still the second place guy and not the winner. Hahahahaha so it's a win by default but not an actual win.. cheapens it in my eyes.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6811|Southeastern USA

zombiguy wrote:

It's a shame people judge a country by the way it's leader f***s things up totally! (can't really say i blame you though) It's not like we don't know he's an idiot, by now most of the country knows this, the smart ones tried to get him out of office last election and now the idiots are seeing the errors of their ways, too late.
and if you think his daddy's not really pulling the strings, your in denial!
My bank account sez you're wrong, he spends a little too much (as does congress), and he's a little slow on the whole illegal immigrant thing, but the economy is good, and we are finally fighting the terrorists on their own soil instead of ours.

bloomberg is ass, the times have long since lost all credibility, and deficit does not = economy

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-08-17 11:08:22)

cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6958|NJ
We've neve actually fought the terrorist on our soil which is why 9/11 happened.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7028|UK

ht_fly wrote:

Vilham

reread my post again. I was criticizing your research skillz not your outcome.

What the hell does BC Canada have authority over US economy.

You guys really jump the gun a lot.

I was not bashing your outcomes, just your research websites.

By the way I did not mention cnn or bbc. So why bring it up.

Bloomberg is a good source, so is the FT and Wall street Journal.

So is HBR, Forbes, Money, Business Week and a host of other periodicals.

Damm. your research just plain sucks!

Remember not your outcome on the economy, just the websites you listed suck.

So, get over it and learn how to do better research.

If you so good good a predicting economic performance, then why does the FED raise interest rates?
If you can answer that, then you know your shit.

If you can tell me why Bush let the dollar slide?
Then you can be the Zen master of economic outcomes and be the opinionated wall street jerk!

Other then that, learn how to research, beside using a search engine.

Then again, I could be full of shit!
Those sites i provided are perfectly fine, they provide news to world events...

Also you seem to have accepted that America is in economic trouble, so why are you still arguing, seems to me your one of these people that just want to argue about anything.

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