Defiance
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+438|7117

kilroy0097 wrote:

Then of course you have the cluster fuck on the Sniper side. Imagine that? You mean an entire team of loners that usually operate alone couldn't work together as a team? Tell me it isn't so!  *sarcasim*
From the webcast you see that the snipers weren't too chatty even on their best of rounds.

Must be in the blood
Des.Kmal
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+917|7064|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
The commentators were hilarious!! HAHA!!
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obstacle02
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+3|6962
First off,

Nyte wrote:

You know... a Medic team VS a team of any other kits would beat them.

We should have something like Sniper VS Support/Assault/Engineer/AT/SpecOps competitions.

Medic VS <insert kit here> would win all the time for Medics (Maybe... MAYBE Support could stand a chance if they go all out grenade spamming... but I still have hope that Medics would win that match too).


Engineers would probably lose to every kit. AT would probably lose to every kit except for Engineer. Assault would beat every kit except for Medics. SpecOps would beat every kit except for Snipers/Medics/Assault. Snipers would beat every kit except for Medics/Assault.  Trust me.
very true.

2nd, that video is like a train wreck, and it kills me inside to see the snipers doing that badly.

3rd, is there any hope of still having an american version? 'cause i was in for about 20 minutes, originally as reserve, and my ping was pretty horrendous.
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7285|Cheshire, UK

kilroy0097 wrote:

Can't say I was surprised at the outcome. Medics have better weapons for CQ fighting than Snipers. Even with the spaming of claymores Medics simply revive each other. So the ticket bleed will always be more for the snipers who can't save tickets by reviving. Then of course you have the point blank range fighting. All you have is your pistol against the L96 or the G36-E.

Then of course you have the cluster fuck on the Sniper side. Imagine that? You mean an entire team of loners that usually operate alone couldn't work together as a team? Tell me it isn't so!  *sarcasim*

Seriously, it's sad that a match up like this had to be done but simply put Snipers are not as useful as they want to think they are. Sure they are annoying, sure everyone hates running into claymores. But when it comes right down to it, Sniper don't win games they just help a little. Everyone else does the hard work. Cold hard facts.

Now I wouldn't mind seeing a few other match ups.

Spec Ops vs. Medics might be a little more fair. C4 bombs and accurate weapons might help.
Supply vs. Assault would be a pretty good match up.
We'll be holding more such events and also trying different pairings.

But lets not kid ourselves here, this match does not prove a damn thing about how either kit plays within a team. It shows how these teams played against each other on this occasion.

The very opening moves as the snipers, as US, advanced on Karkand city showed that they are much better when behind other troop types. This reliance on other kits is not an indication that they are no good in a team, it shows that they are best as part of a team. A fairer test is to play a match with any kit EXCEPT sniper against any kit EXCEPT medic; but that doesn't sound like so much fun.

It was the fun that we played for.

Defiance wrote:

From the webcast you see that the snipers weren't too chatty even on their best of rounds.
This is what lost it for the snipers in my opinion. I said before the match that the team with the better strats and comms would win and that was the case.

obstacle02 wrote:

3rd, is there any hope of still having an american version? 'cause i was in for about 20 minutes, originally as reserve, and my ping was pretty horrendous.
As I said in the cast, we want to do that and the guys at fragtv.net are telling me that they can hook DMZ-gaming up with a decent server to host it on.

Last edited by duffry (2006-07-16 02:46:04)

Entertayner
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+826|7016

Why not have the same kinda layout, 2 round kark, 2 round wake and have 2 squads on one team of sniper and two on the other team of medics and see which gets the most points overall? Maybe that would reveal more?
aqempty
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+6|6952|international waters
but kills with tanks helos and plnes should not count
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|7105|BC, Canada

aqempty wrote:

but kills with tanks helos and plnes should not count
pay attention there are no tanks, helos, or planes.
Entertayner
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+826|7016

I think he was replying to my post...
Trooper_Collider
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+25|7190
It was hell of a fun and I enjoyed the comments! Two thumbs up!!






Semper Fi!

Last edited by Trooper_Collider (2006-07-16 04:24:26)

elmo1337
Banned
+186|7005|The real world
Jezus christ, the 3rd guy sounds like mr.slave of southpark

And the first guy laught about everything, omg look, a medic, haha
Janis_Petke
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+49|7139|Brunei Darussalam

It was fun event! Hope theres gonna be more!
R0lyP0ly
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+161|7100|USA

EntertaineR_06 wrote:

Why not have the same kinda layout, 2 round kark, 2 round wake and have 2 squads on one team of sniper and two on the other team of medics and see which gets the most points overall? Maybe that would reveal more?
while i sympasize with what you are trying to bring about, I think that'll only show that revives own flag defends on the days that end in 'y'.
TehMyke
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Timelord_
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+25|6983
medics for sure!
Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|7198|Toronto, ON
You know, if EVERYONE had an M95 and shot at the black hawks coming in to take Wake Island, we would have won easily, 30 M95 shots = 30 bars of HP.

Now that I think about it, even on Karkand when the US were in the HUMVEES.


That would have probably won the match.
Alpha as fuck.
Brasso
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+1,549|7076

I'm assuming Medics won?
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chaosdragon001
Whee
+53|6955|Los Angeles, California

Nyte wrote:

You know, if EVERYONE had an M95 and shot at the black hawks coming in to take Wake Island, we would have won easily, 30 M95 shots = 30 bars of HP.

Now that I think about it, even on Karkand when the US were in the HUMVEES.


That would have probably won the match.
Yea, that's what I was afraid of happening, on wake though.. All you guys lined up along the beach with M95s... 3 shots from each is enough to take down all 3 of our blackhawks...

Yea medics won, 639-55
Entertayner
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Couple of points I'd like to make...

1. I wonder how many times the snipers got the bug where you shoot them straight on in the face and it does fuck all, for the medics this doesn't matter because they just fire another 29 bullets into you but wtf are we supposed to do?!

2. We are renowned for prone-spamming/bunnyhopping?! Have you seen the video yet?! My god!! If anyone else says i'm a bunnyhopping sniper I will come round to their house and rape their mum! Jeez!

GG To the medics in the end, your tactical play was better than ours but ultimately u won because u have an auto weapon and because you bunnyhop etc and because you have the revive function...

And don't say "but you have a one shot, one kill weapon" because you do aswell...

Last edited by EntertaineR_06 (2006-07-16 23:06:24)

Poncho
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+91|7153|NL
"hihihihih hahahah hohoho oh I gotta write that one down.. d-u-f-f-n-u-t-s ...hohoh hahaha"

rofl! but uhhh I didn't see any shooting really, I only heard duffry and some dude talking for 10 minutes until I had enough...

And... where are the screenshots of the scores? Who won? In other words... where are the stats?
ssonrats
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+221|7091

EntertaineR_06 wrote:

Couple of points I'd like to make...

1. I wonder how many times the snipers got the bug where you shoot them straight on in the face and it does fuck all, for the medics this doesn't matter because they just fire another 29 bullets into you but wtf are we supposed to do?!
This happend to me several times if my memory serves me well, also i remember someone storming off in a jeep and i headshotted him about 4 times and i got smoke every shot but no kill.
N)!(NDarkDragon
Banned
+158|6968
The tape was funny but uh. How the fuck did the snipers not win ONE round? Medics stomped them over and over again even on wake it was funny. Perhaps we should have a Medic vs Support contest after this?
usmarine
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+2,785|7207

Reading thru these posts, I see some sore losers trying to justify their defeat.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7099
I say we have an assault vs. support competition. That would make for some interesting fights, I think.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7207

Some of these ideas are good, but no heal or no ammo equal no win.

So the only even matches would be:

assault vs spec ops
assault vs engineer
assault vs AT
AT        vs spec ops

etc.........

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2006-07-17 06:48:13)

N)!(NDarkDragon
Banned
+158|6968

SargeV1.4 wrote:

I say we have an assault vs. support competition. That would make for some interesting fights, I think.
Indeed. Raining grenade spam and grenade launchers along with tons of flashbangs and smoke nades. Id think support would win though because of the unlimited ammo and grenade spamming. But assult would also stand a good chance with grenade launchers and flashbangs. On SF it would be even better though. Think of the tear gas and flashbangs and grapples and stuff would make one awesome game.

Last edited by N)!(NDarkDragon (2006-07-17 06:48:08)

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