BF2S Forums Do you feel like you affect the win or loss of your team?

Hmmm, nice question. I hope I do make the difference on the team I'm playing for.

I don't believe that a persons stats relfect how they help their team. My stats on all three of my accounts might not reflect the best stats in the game, but I know that I contribute positivley to the victories I have attained, and I also know that I have helped for the downfall of my team on occasion. So to answer the origional post, I do feel like I affect the win or loss of my team.

a good player can definitly win a round - maybe it depends a little on the map - a good j-10 pilot on wake can do the whole job (i do and i do not carrier rape for that)
or take karkand for example - a good (usmc)-player does not fight the entire round at the hotel - he will go behind the frontline and capture some flags - this definitly helps a team to win

imo there are 2 ways to win round as a single player - kill people like there's no tomorrow (for example with jet on wake or with tank on karkand) or capture/defend as many flags as you can without going for a lot of points or kills (so pointfarming won't help your team) - sometimes these 2 ways can be combined for example when you go infantry-rampage on sharqi, ghost town or karkand - this are the best round - murderous frenzy at its best

i think its the other way, where if your team is winning, its easier to do better. like wise if your team is losing, its not hard to do really bad. ive had those days.

When I command on ghost town, regardless for which team (SAS or Spetz) my team wins... thats just how it works.

Another example: I know I've gotten 67 points and we've won by 67 tickets... I know I attributed to that win.

My win to loss ratio sucks but I also don't really care if my team wins or loses, unless I'm commanding or if it's a really close game the whole way.

You can't only look at k/ds for how good a player is.  Anytime I see anyone over a 2:1 the first thing I check is the percentage of their kills that come from vehicles, which is usually pretty high.  It doesn't take much to have a high k/d in a tank.

But on the topic, I feel like I make a difference on my team if I end up close to the top of my team's score.  If i have a bad round, it doesn't seem to me like I am helping.

Last edited by Mouse315 (2006-06-21 11:50:56)

Stats can be very deceptive with regard to W/L.  Just last night I spent an entire round on Oman as Engineer keepting USMC arty up.  There were two MEC Special Ops players determined to keep our arty down, but I hung near it, repaired it when down, and killed or slowed the progress of the enemy bent on destroying it, placed AT mines to keep enemy vehicles from approaching so that Spec Ops would have to approach on foot.... etc.  I ended up with something like 5 kills to 3 deaths and 8 repair points.  Not a stellar round, but I kept our arty  up 90% of the round and nobody else on my team was interested in repairing it.  The round was a narrow win for us, and I'm convinced we'd have lost by a mile had the arty been down all round.

Hmm where to start, either he switches to the winning team all the time or just rapes the hell out of the other team who knows. 79% of his kills are in vehicles. Take that away and you have a CRAPPY player who cant do anything outside of a jet or tank. 1259 kill assists are the most of his few team points he doesnt have many revives, heals, or ressuplys so hes not much of a team player. He only has basic first aid, ressuply, and engineer so he doesnt heal, repair, or ressuply much (though he still needs time for vet ressuply). Team: Kills, Damage, & Vehicle Damage      886 / 341 / 328 I assume he TKs for vehicles ALOT. His win loss stat probably comes from his constant raping with jets and armor that make the tickets go down like lightning. I rest my case.

Yup, completely agree.

For me, it's about gunning for the back flags and capping them.  Almost everytime I've succeeded in capping a back flag, we manage to turn the ticket ratio around and win the game. 

What pisses me off though, is after taking the back flag and getting killed later, autobalance then switches me to the other team!!!...  And I end up getting a loss.

Last edited by Ilocano (2006-06-21 12:31:31)

Yes, I usually affect the win/loss of my team.

That is of course if my team aren't braindead.

I have a bad KD ratio, but my WL ratio is higher.  I don't think your stats have anything to do with how often you win.  You can suck balls, but somehow always manage to be on the winning team. Or vice versa.  I have played some rounds where I look at my flag caps and flag cap assists and I think to myself, "If had not been playing this round my team would have lost without all those caps."  On the other hand, I have played rounds where I felt completely useless, sometimes even a hindrance to my team.

It all depends on how you play.  If you have half of your teams falg caps, then of course you have a great affect on how much your team wins.  If you run around and TKing and crashing jets the whole round, you are probably helping your team to lose.  But you could also be a lonewolf sniper sitting around waiting for some action to come your way the entire round (embarrassed to admit I've done it).  If this is the case, then you aren't having much of an affect on anything, besides taking up a spot on the server.

g78 wrote:

Might want to lay off the LSD/weed/crack cocaine (delete as appropriate) there son...

Let's take a close look at your tale of woe...

"my missile curvs away from his vehicule"
"jet firing from the reactor"
"Mounted machine gun with firepower of a A-10 with no limit range"
"APC that control any weapons around him to fire at the same target as him with the same firepower"

I've been reading this board for a while and this is the first time I've seen complaints which are even remotely like yours!

Most of the shit you describe is server-side, how can that possibly be hacked??

As for the APC, wtf is the T-X playing BF2 now????????

Its not really a complaint, more like things i did saw. and some of my teamate saw for themself also. Yes maybe it was a admin, i really did'nt ask them. And personally i dont care how it works. But i did see it, i do have some picture of this but they arent really talking of themself, a movie would have been a hell better. But fraps tends to eat up a bit too much ressources on my old pc.  Am not making excuses, you may not believe me, i really dont care. As for the drugs, probably a overdose of aspirin when i see those things throwed at me.

All i'm saying is do your homework so you know what kind of hacks are actually out there that you might come up against... the things you describe aren't listed anywhere as far as I can tell from a bit of googling.

I am bad luck and I suck,soon as I join the team I'm on goes to shit.

I guess if you die less than you kill you are already affecting the win or loss of your team....but if the team consists mostly out of idiots even the leetest jetwhore can't win the round by himself.