Prove it! Show me the rule and I'll give you +1 karmasgt_mango333 wrote:
You and others keep comparing apples and oranges. BFS2 is played using peripheral HARDWARE. There are going to be differences in the response times in those peripherals just like there will be with any hardware config. The same will be true of connection speeds as well. External SOFTWARE, i.e. macros, are completely different. The only leeway I'm going to give you on this is for key bindings and that's it. Tying key bindings together into one key is cheating, plain and simple.=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
Using a keyboard is cheating mango! For example, with my joystick I get full anologue control of my soldier meaning that if I push the stick slighly forward, I will creep and I have to push it all the way to walk at full speed. Now let's say me and you meet at close range and we both start strafing; if I want to go left and right I have a delay in my soldier speeding up left, stopping then speeding up again to go right (this is realistic!!!) whereas you can spam the a & d keys and move left and right at stupidly fake speeds with no delay........
...although I could just set up a macro that makes me strafe at full speed I suppose
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You just did if that is the best argument you can give me for it being legal.=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
Prove it! Show me the rule and I'll give you +1 karmasgt_mango333 wrote:
You and others keep comparing apples and oranges. BFS2 is played using peripheral HARDWARE. There are going to be differences in the response times in those peripherals just like there will be with any hardware config. The same will be true of connection speeds as well. External SOFTWARE, i.e. macros, are completely different. The only leeway I'm going to give you on this is for key bindings and that's it. Tying key bindings together into one key is cheating, plain and simple.=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
Using a keyboard is cheating mango! For example, with my joystick I get full anologue control of my soldier meaning that if I push the stick slighly forward, I will creep and I have to push it all the way to walk at full speed. Now let's say me and you meet at close range and we both start strafing; if I want to go left and right I have a delay in my soldier speeding up left, stopping then speeding up again to go right (this is realistic!!!) whereas you can spam the a & d keys and move left and right at stupidly fake speeds with no delay........
...although I could just set up a macro that makes me strafe at full speed I suppose
I think you should use the "eat shit and die" macro.
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Isn't JoyToKey some kind of macro program?
You have spend nearly half your game playing time in vehicles so your "stats" are irrelevant in my eyes. Easiest way to build up a good K and get easy kills. So what if you haven't used a tank since March, your stats are based on your gameplay since you started the profile so if you can show me recent stats than I might be impressed. As with my profile which has on it all the time played when I first starting playing the game and has had a massive effect on my overall stats. Maybe I'll start a new profile and see what I'm really like but then I don't want to bow down to people like you who think they can gauge exatly how good you are by comparing stats without any regard to the fact they may include the players "learning period" or even if the same guy uses the profile (I have friends that use a joint profile as one is good in a tank and one is good on foot so the stats make them look a good all round player).panderiz wrote:
OMG are you retarded, or just 12?=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
I presum this is you http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/44395526/panderiz wrote:
=OBS= EstebanRey you clearly are a nub.
MACROS ARE FOR NOOBS, get some skills
RSI = wanker, press the keys yourself, 'don't help' BAH you are clearly demonstrating your simple nature
note: you don't have to worry about ammo cause your kdr is less than 1! ROFL
I really wouldn't go slagging anyone else off with stats like yours. Let me guess, Panderiz loads up game selects US team, Spec Ops, gets in tank and repeat. Man you're the most one dimensional player I've ever seen! At least I have a good mix of kills/time with other kits and armies you just use one kit, one army and one weapon - the "K improver for utter noobs" the tank! Man you have 13,000 kills with armour I would be embarrassed!!!!
You may play across most kits, but your fucking useless as ALL OF THEM!, EVERYONE OF THEM, oh except the noob tube.
You don't even have a overall kdr over 1, so basically your a waste of bandwidth and don't help your team.
Hmmm does it matter if I play US a lot, is there any advantage on the majority of maps for US? maybe only karkland but hell yet again you demonstrate the floor in your point.
Also asshat, I havn't played spec ops since around march, now I generally play assualt or medic, and depending on the state of the round AT or the odd sniper. Also I hardly use armour any more, if you explore noob boy you'll see almost all my game play is now based around inf and capping flags.
I'd like to see disabled lables next to those players that use macros.
Finally, I don't play the game for stats, just to win the round and have fun, stats are just the result.
P.S That is how you post a reply without included pathetic, childish insults..........
Well I could see some good use for this tool.
I am looking for a way to do 2 things...
1: spot a plane from my jet... this tool could bind the following string to one of my joystickbuttons Q, mousclick.
2: switch from my primary gun to pistol and back with one button. Used to have this set up in my Urban Terror days... worked like a charm... Now I bave set up pistol and primary on 2 mousebutton which is a waste of one perfectly good mousebutton (which could me used for grenades). Don't know how this tool could help me with this?
I am looking for a way to do 2 things...
1: spot a plane from my jet... this tool could bind the following string to one of my joystickbuttons Q, mousclick.
2: switch from my primary gun to pistol and back with one button. Used to have this set up in my Urban Terror days... worked like a charm... Now I bave set up pistol and primary on 2 mousebutton which is a waste of one perfectly good mousebutton (which could me used for grenades). Don't know how this tool could help me with this?
Um what? So let's say I get arrested for eating a chocolate bar. I go to court and ask them where it is in law and they would have to release me as it isn't. In you view, it is cheating but no where in any EA/Dice literature does it say that it's cheating so you have the authority of the game makers do you then?sgt_mango333 wrote:
You just did if that is the best argument you can give me for it being legal.
i use that one, its the uber hax macro, it turns on GOD mode, gives you unlimited health and bullets and makes you invisible.LockerFish wrote:
I can't believe you got on here and advertised the specific macros you use to cheat at the game. Here's one I use a lot: alt+f4
rofl, name calling, just an valid assumption based on muppets analysis.Defiance wrote:
panderiz, if you're going to call someone 12 you should quit with the name calling, it doesn't help you.
NOW TO ANSWER THE MACRO DEBATE
MACROS ARE FOR WANKERShttp://www.ea.com/global/legal/tos.jsp
You will violate the Terms of Service if you (or others using your Account) do any of the following:
Use or distribute “auto” software programs, “macro” software programs or other “cheat utility” software program or applications. ·
Good spot on the TOS. Mass debate concluded
+1 for you.
+1 for you.
This isn't a court of law, this is a court of opinion and you have been found guilty. The only reason the macro hasn't been definitively outlawed is because there are legit macros that can be used. You're arguments continue to not hold water.=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
Um what? So let's say I get arrested for eating a chocolate bar. I go to court and ask them where it is in law and they would have to release me as it isn't. In you view, it is cheating but no where in any EA/Dice literature does it say that it's cheating so you have the authority of the game makers do you then?sgt_mango333 wrote:
You just did if that is the best argument you can give me for it being legal.
But for arguments sake I'll answer your question. Identity theft, internet scams, and computer viruses didn't have any laws against them either. They became illegal because they were wrong. Since you want me to be as specific as I have to be with my 5 year old, here you go: you're macros while technically not illegal are still wrong. There...now you have been vindicated...now you are justified to use your macros...but you are still a cheat in everone else's book who tries to build the community with fair play and integrity. Congratulations.
It says right in the ROE that the use of 3rd party software is a cheat. I'm pretty sure someone already pointed that out to you, but I guess you failed to read or understand what that meant. All you are trying to do is justify your use of something that without a doubt gives you an advantage over a player that is not using a macro. Pushing and holding a button for rapid fire is much different that repeated pressing a spacebar and analog controls vs. "a" and "d" (you more than likely have keyboard too and no one is stopping you from using it) so your whole keyboard is cheating thing is just dumb. Basically you are just spouting off a bunch of bullshit. Macros are cheating, but if you need them then use them. I haven't looked at your stats but what I've read about your stats, those macros don't seem to be helping you out all that much.
That TOS is bull. Firstly it applies to EA Online and not BF2. BF2 uses Gamespy for online accounts so you need to post theirs. Nice try though
pwnd +1 for upanderiz wrote:
rofl, name calling, just an valid assumption based on muppets analysis.Defiance wrote:
panderiz, if you're going to call someone 12 you should quit with the name calling, it doesn't help you.
NOW TO ANSWER THE MACRO DEBATEMACROS ARE FOR WANKERShttp://www.ea.com/global/legal/tos.jsp
You will violate the Terms of Service if you (or others using your Account) do any of the following:
Use or distribute “auto” software programs, “macro” software programs or other “cheat utility” software program or applications. ·
Oh, so the EA ROE doesn't mean anything then?=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
That TOS is bull. Firstly it applies to EA Online and not BF2. BF2 uses Gamespy for online accounts so you need to post theirs. Nice try though
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Good thing for us that we don't have to scour through internet sources to prove that you are a douchbag, all we have to do is direct someone towards your posts...
Yes, post it then. The link that other guy gave is for EA Online which is something different....Jenspm wrote:
Oh, so the EA ROE doesn't mean anything then?=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
That TOS is bull. Firstly it applies to EA Online and not BF2. BF2 uses Gamespy for online accounts so you need to post theirs. Nice try though
Will that work for you? Maybe if you read it for the 2nd time it will sink in.MuseSeeker wrote:
...or cheats for the purposes of giving yourself an unfair advantage over other players.
This would include but not limited to:
* § MSX and other 3rd party software. <<<<<<
* § Modification of weapons code, aka Tank turrets exploit.
* § CVAR hacks which would make players appear Neon
* § CVAR hacks that let players see thru walls or buildings
* § Mini-Map hack so all players are visible
* § Modification of Player Names which would alter their size or colors.
* § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.
from ROE - "Noobsville" is an acronym changed by these forums.
The EA ROE is from EA and you say it is OK.. The EA TOS is ALSO from EA, but is not OK... I don't get it...
*edit* nice shepard... pwnd again!
*edit* nice shepard... pwnd again!
Last edited by Jenspm (2006-05-30 08:37:07)
http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/forums/ … .php?t=251
edit: too slowROE wrote:
§1.3 You may not change (hack) any core games files, load into memory or employ external programs or cheats for the purposes of giving yourself an unfair advantage over other players.
This would include but not limited to:
* § MSX and other 3rd party software.
* § Modification of weapons code, aka Tank turrets exploit.
* § CVAR hacks which would make players appear Neon
* § CVAR hacks that let players see thru walls or buildings
* § Mini-Map hack so all players are visible
* § Modification of Player Names which would alter their size or colors.
* § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.
Last edited by tupla_s (2006-05-30 08:38:20)
That would make teamspeak a violation then as that is 3rd party softwaretupla_s wrote:
http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/forums/ … .php?t=251edit: too slowROE wrote:
§1.3 You may not change (hack) any core games files, load into memory or employ external programs or cheats for the purposes of giving yourself an unfair advantage over other players.
This would include but not limited to:
* § MSX and other 3rd party software.
* § Modification of weapons code, aka Tank turrets exploit.
* § CVAR hacks which would make players appear Neon
* § CVAR hacks that let players see thru walls or buildings
* § Mini-Map hack so all players are visible
* § Modification of Player Names which would alter their size or colors.
* § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.
Give the guy a break seriously.....
if you don't like it, leave it, it's his business, if you consider it cheating he's "only cheating himself"
it's not techinically illegal so just let it be, he's just making use of what he has and using that to his advantage
THE END!
if you don't like it, leave it, it's his business, if you consider it cheating he's "only cheating himself"
it's not techinically illegal so just let it be, he's just making use of what he has and using that to his advantage
THE END!
TS doesnt give you an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
It's not an unfair advantage... everybody that don't have it can use VOIP=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
That would make teamspeak a violation then as that is 3rd party softwaretupla_s wrote:
http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/forums/ … .php?t=251edit: too slowROE wrote:
§1.3 You may not change (hack) any core games files, load into memory or employ external programs or cheats for the purposes of giving yourself an unfair advantage over other players.
This would include but not limited to:
* § MSX and other 3rd party software.
* § Modification of weapons code, aka Tank turrets exploit.
* § CVAR hacks which would make players appear Neon
* § CVAR hacks that let players see thru walls or buildings
* § Mini-Map hack so all players are visible
* § Modification of Player Names which would alter their size or colors.
* § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.
Nor do my macros, look at my statsShEpArD_oF_rOt wrote:
TS doesnt give you an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
P.S Teamspeak gives a pleyer a million times more advantages than my macros, I use both and trust me if I had to lose one it'd be the macros.......
Last edited by =OBS= EstebanRey (2006-05-30 08:44:24)
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