BF2S Forums What macro shall I make?????

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

1) Rapid Fire - Basically it spams the right mouse button at a very quick speed which means I can unload a whole clip of DAO-12 in around a second.  It's also great for pistols and any weapon that can be fired in single shot because you still get the fire rate but without the accuracy peanlties that fully-auto can give you.  It also means you can track your mouse smoothly on the target as you're not jerking it by pressing the left mouse button repeatedly.

No just no, this is cheating for people who don't want to admit they're cheating

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

2) Solo-Pilot TV - Allows me, when flying a chopper solo, to jump in the gunner's seat, switch to TV and fire.  Basically it presses F2, right mouse button

This I can't see a problem with, as it's a two handed operation normally it can be executed very fast anyway

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

,and then Rapid Fire (see above) for constant guiding.  This one is so much fun but takes practice to get used to.  The other day I was owning a two-manned chopper and they were getting very frustrated with me.

But that no, thats abuse of the game dynamics and it is my mind blatant cheating

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Anyway, what other macros do you think would be good to make?  I tried one that made me do that ghey rolly-polly thing but I use DAO usually so wasn't much use.....

"The ghey rolly-polly thing" that you are refering to happens anyway, theres no need for a macro for it, certain macros, such as one that instantly spots enemies (auto press q then LMB) sure, I have no problem with, but just play BF2 the way it was meant to be played, without aids from programs outside the game.

i got a automatic pistol shooter, BUT, when i shoot without it i shoot faster, much faster, and with the same accy, i dont want to get RSI or whatever....

you can see it like this: be happy people dont use macros that click left mouse when a certain pixel becomes the colour of someones head......

Sarrk wrote:

Mmmm, I wouldnt use a macro, seems unfair, but each has their own, just like volx has his cyborg hands........

OF COURCE IT DOSENT SEEM FAIR IT IS A MOTHER FUCKING CHEAT!!!!!!

Tor77 wrote:

You guys are women. You're like He-Bitches. Crying.

Macros aren't cheating - it's just an advantage. So it's not how the game was intended to being played? Does that mean you would NEVER drop a vehicle on a chopper when you're playing commander, because - dear Lord - that's not what vehicle-drops are for!

I love reading people saying you aren't good enough at the game because you use macros    Oh, and MY father is stronger than YOUR father!

EDIT: I don't use macros simply because I haven't explored it.

That is sooo true it's unreal.  The same people whining about macros are probably the guys that think it's cheating to use a macro but perfectly acceptable to run about using claymores as a primary weapon now they don't kill friendlies or sit in atnk/apc shooting a spawn point.

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

panderiz wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey you clearly are a nub.

MACROS ARE FOR NOOBS, get some skills

RSI = wanker, press the keys yourself, 'don't help' BAH you are clearly demonstrating your simple nature

note: you don't have to worry about ammo cause your kdr is less than 1! ROFL

I presum this is you http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/44395526/

I really wouldn't go slagging anyone else off with stats like yours.  Let me guess, Panderiz loads up game selects US team, Spec Ops, gets in tank and repeat.  Man you're the most one dimensional player I've ever seen!  At least I have a good mix of kills/time with other kits and armies you just use one kit, one army and one weapon - the "K improver for utter noobs" the tank!  Man you have 13,000 kills with armour I would be embarrassed!!!!

OMG are you retarded, or just 12?

You may play across most kits, but your fucking useless as ALL OF THEM!, EVERYONE OF THEM, oh except the noob tube.

You don't even have a overall kdr over 1, so basically your a waste of bandwidth and don't help your team.

Hmmm does it matter if I play US a lot, is there any advantage on the majority of maps for US? maybe only karkland but hell yet again you demonstrate the floor in your point.

Also asshat, I havn't played spec ops since around march, now I generally play assualt or medic, and depending on the state of the round AT or the odd sniper.  Also I hardly use armour any more, if you explore noob boy you'll see almost all my game play is now based around inf and capping flags.

I'd like to see disabled lables next to those players that use macros.

Finally, I don't play the game for stats, just to win the round and have fun, stats are just the result.

Last edited by panderiz (2006-05-30 07:05:05)

panderiz, if you're going to call someone 12 you should quit with the name calling, it doesn't help you.

I'm going to stop arguing this point. The only decision that really matters is that of the person enforcing whether it's a cheat or not. Plenty of people use macros, and there's no "protection" against it. If you honestly think you're going to change EAs cheating policy, have fun, but I play no part from here on.

GG.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-05-30 07:14:34)

Interesting debate.

I must admit, a macro that would be q + LMB would be nice to add to my gamepad when flying, just because it is a real pain to try and do spotting when in the air.  Or to respond to requests for support (I play when my wife is asleep, so I tend not to use the mic very often).

I have fallen victim to a macro'd pistol user, and while it was annoying for two deaths, I learned to adapt, and got revenge often enough that the guy changed tactic.

That is what has happened since day one of this game; someone finds an advantage, exploits it, until someone else finds a counter,  or EA glitch patches the game to get rid of the advantage.

See many Jihad jeeps lately? Or sniping PKM'rs? I don't believe I have seen a single Assault Nade launcher used in weeks!

So someone will macro the enter / exit  for the AA soon; so what? Adapt to the changes in the battle.
Hmm... I think my Avatar name had a quote about that.... =P

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Not wrote:

On top of that, each mouseclick you hit has a potential to throw your aim off a bit. So yes, you're cheating. .

Yeah but you could easily set up a non-mouse button as your secondary fire without the macro and get the same effect.  i.e you have spacebar as fire and manually spam that as you guide your mouse.  You don't HAVE to use the left mouse button as fire.

Another interesting point is that with my joystick I got a BF2 flyer.  My joystick comes with profiling software so why would EA bundle advertisements ofr their game with a product that supports macros if it was against their rules?


Couldn't find any polls but these guys don't consider it cheating http://www.overclockers.co.nz/forums/sh … p?p=269664

"These guys" appear to be a macro community, strange they don't find it to be cheating! You've been recommended for an award! Basic Intelligence!

I said any professional or amateur official gaming system, like CAL or CPL or TWL etc. Not some random pro-macro forum community. No competitive gaming allows it because it's cheating. And I don't know about you, but my right index finger is my best clicking finger. I can hit the mouse button faster with it than I could any other finger, much less on my off hand. So no, I couldn't bind my fire to spacebar and hit it just as fast, not even close.

Stop trying to argue your way out of this. You're lame, you cheat, and any professional gamer will tell you the same thing.

As for the BF2 Profiler. Yeah I've got that for my joystick too, but it's for mapping the buttons for different games so I can load that up to the stick instantly, not for writing auto fire macros. Jesus Christ, some peoples' kids.

P00R_M3 wrote:

Defiance wrote:

Tor77 wrote:

Macros aren't cheating - it's just an advantage. So it's not how the game was intended to being played? Does that mean you would NEVER drop a vehicle on a chopper when you're playing commander, because - dear Lord - that's not what vehicle-drops are for!

That's why people are flipping out. They see it as an advantage, and that's supposedly cheating by giving yourself an advantage over other players.

But the same can be said of raw skill. If you have skill, you have the same advantage.

Raw skill takes a lot of practice and requires no other aids to have an advantage. Macros however, take no practice and no skill to gain an advantage. How can that be fair?

Good point.

Also I'd like to point out that both raw skill, and using a vehicle drop to crush someone are both possibilties that humans can do. It doesn't take a script to drop a vehicle. Sure, that's not what they were intended for, but that's improvisation. Raw skill may just be a blessing, or maybe it took a lot of practice as this poster said. A macro however has nothing to do with BF2, you're using a 3rd party device (program or not) to alter the game controls in a way they were not meant to be used. Change them all you want in the keymap to make it easier, but as soon as you introduce something that wasn't an intended element of the game (scripts and macros) you're cheating.

Try making your argument for an aimbot. "Well, it's not REALLY cheating because some people have good aim and well I don't, so I just use this to make up for it! Some people can do it so I should too! This just evens things out, right? I mean my eyes get tired so I can't always be bothered to aim correctly so I'll just let the hacks take care of it."

It's lazy, it's selfish, and above all else, it's pathetic. Cheating or not, you're a noob in the eyes of anyone with skill. Take that for what it's worth, but with you being a macro user, I'll assume it means nothing.

bind w+"kill" in console

@ =OBS= EstebanRey


I think it's a clever idea, i agree its just like pressing the keys together quickly (like youve done with the heli)


the rapid fire thing is pushing it abit.....but i repect you for trying things out, and as i said....very clever!

Not wrote:

I don't know about you, but my right index finger is my best clicking finger. I can hit the mouse button faster with it than I could any other finger, much less on my off hand. So no, I couldn't bind my fire to spacebar and hit it just as fast, not even close.

Then you haven't been brought up on games like Hyper Olympics (showing my age) where you have to press two buttons as fast as you can for your man to run.  I used to spend hours on that in the late '80s and my left hand index finger is just as quick as my right and my thumbs are pretty quick too.....