RGB|Apocalypse
Member
+1|7034

sheff1597 wrote:

Its not a mod. Like said before yes it is obviously using the same game engine as BF2, but its obviously going to be an updated and upgraded version. ...  They know about this bug, and im confident that it will be fixed. You could call it a total conversion, but it really isnt. Like I already said yes its using the BF2 engine clearly, but its also clearly definitly not BF2. Im not thinking that im going to be paying for a modded BF2, because its not, it is a totally new game. You should be thankful they're using the BF2 engine.  Its not "lame" Nikola Bathory, its economical, smart, and common pratice.
Erm.. What are you on dude. First you say its not a mod and not a total conversion then you said it obviously uses the BF2 engine? Then? What is it you want?!

sheff1597 wrote:

I dont think we'll have to worry about the red tag bug ether. It cant be fixed by a patch, because the error is too deep in the core coding. But even though there using the same engine with the bug, they can now fix it now that they have total acess to the entire code.
Erm.. again. Don't worry about the red tag bug? Cos it CAN'T be fixed? HUH? So what you do you mean now they CAN fix it cause they have access to the entire code? HAR? They had the code and developed the entire game from the ground up and still can't fix the bug after almost a year. So what do you mean?

sheff1597 wrote:

Its alot cheaper for them, and they can get the game out alot sooner since they dont have to create a whole new engine.
Wow sheesh.. More money to Dice/EA! Yay!... *rolls eyes* What it being cheaper to than has got to do with end gamer's benefit?
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|6979|Antarctica

sheff1597 wrote:

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

sheff1597 wrote:

I dont think we'll have to worry about the red tag bug ether. It cant be fixed by a patch, because the error is too deep in the core coding. But even though there using the same engine with the bug, they can now fix it now that they have total acess to the entire code. They know about this bug, and im confident that it will be fixed.
LOL, that would be great but don't count on it.  They are gonna rush BF2142 and it will prob have more bugs than BF2.
I dont see why there would be tons of bugs. They've been using and patching this engine for quite a while, they know whats in it and what is wrong with it. Now that they can basically start a new with it, they can pound out all the known problems with it, and hopefully get rid of many of the new ones that will likely appear. No im not saying its going to be perfect. No game is perfect on launch, and never get every bug ironed out of it, thats what patches are for. But I can say with confidence that the "red tag bug" wont be an issue. How could it be with all the work they've done to get rid of it in BF2? Im sure its the first thing they fixed for 2142.
Because they just want money, its easy to see with all their horribly supported expansion/booster packs.  Don't get me wrong, I hope they do fix stuff but I have a feeling its gonna be 99% the same bugs as BF2 if not more.
sheff1597
Member
+5|6899
Ok dont get me wrong, I understand the whole thing about EA always doing what ever it can to make more money. Every game EA has been a part of has tons of expansions and booster packs. Look at the Sims and Sims2. The Sims 1 had something like 8 expansion packs, riddiclous. So yes I understand why your saying your angry at EA for taking short cuts and saving more money. I just hope they put that extra cash into making the game better, but thats not likley.

As for the bug. From what I've heard they cant fix it in a patch for BF2. I dont know anything about coding a game or internal workings. But im assuming that they cant just re-write the core coding in the hundreds of thousands of copies of BF2 so they cant fix it 100%, although it is better now. But since they have the entire game, and arnt limited by just patching when they're developing 2142, they can fix it, and I sure as hell hope they do because 2142 looks amazingly fun.

Apocalypse I dont understand what your getting at. If you want to call 2142 a mod or total conversion because its using the same basic engine as BF2, then fine go ahead and do it I dont care. But lots of games use the same engines. How many games use the Havok Physics engine? Do all those games have identical physics? No not even close. I know your going to say "well thats not the graphics/base engine in all games" yeah your right, but you need to understand my point.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6990|Riva, MD
The little floating robots that follow the squad leader are pretty cool, it's like a small reliable squad member that's alway there.  You can either have one with dual gatling guns like the one in Chuys vid or one that does a radar scan like the UAV.
sheff1597
Member
+5|6899
The radar scan robot sounds cool. The only problem with them is if your trying to sneak somewhere your easily spotted by the gun toting flying robot over you. Luckly its an optional tool that the squad leader can choose to deploy or not.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6879|Greenwood, IN
I have a couple questions I would liked answered.

1. Will the game support multithreading(Dual Core)?
2. Will it support widescreen resolution natively?
3. Will it require more than 2GBs of ram to run smoothly?

These are some of the questions I have thought about since it was announced.  I personaly would like them to add somethings to the game that us(BF2 Players) would like to see in the game.
ARCUK73
Member
+9|6830|UK

Spearhead wrote:

Why don't they remake BF1942, with the ranking system/award system, the new graphics engine, and improved WW2 weapons?
Yeeeeeeees Pleeeeeeeease!!! bring it on!! go back to the basics!! leave the future to Quake Wars.. i think that one is in the bag for them anyway!! so lets get back to WWII so much more could be done with it...
zomaardan
Member
+3|7017
if its a good game..
i wonder for how long..
like bf2 Ea know how to destroy a good plan/game...

so i would like to avoid EA for some years
and im hoping quake wars is a better game where activision is placing the players in the nr1 seat
TF501|Rocker
Member
+6|6848
soapbox

A lot of you guys are looking at this all wrong....

1) This has been in production for 2 years, and from what I have seen so far, this is the real target that DICE is shooting for --with BF2 being a quasi-along the way-semi-experiment.--

in other words BF2 IS the public BETA test -in a way-. BF2142 will be teh real deal, warts and all.

This is why you aren't seeing a whole lot of effort going into fixing the few minor (as far as playability) bugs in the current game. The damn thing is more popular than anything else out there, wake up.

IMO the the primary reason that Activision is proceeding with QW:ET so they can cash in with the EA haters union.

I've seen some footage btw and I, for one, am not impressed with what was shown. Combine that with the lack of character persistence and it spells -runner up- in my mind.

I expect the box to look f'ing awesome, however.

2)This is nothing like Star Wars or Mech Warrior

There will be NO lasers, plasma weapons, light sabres, or other energy beam weapons.
It's still bullets and bombs, just that they are probably going to be a little more lethal a little more accurate and a lot more fun. --I will miss my AK tho --

"Why futuristic" you ask with a frown ?
because it's the only way to introduce all those fun new toys without upsetting the 'It's not fkn realistic' BF1942 fanboys out there. 

Let's face it, WWII has been done to death, get over it and move on -- It's the 21st century.

As far as the walkers or Mech's are concerned, big deal, they will be very easily spotted and relatively slow moving. I am sure that veteran BF2 players would be up to a little challenge?

Teamwork will be the key. Rambo all you want, but expect to be at the bottom of the list.

The 'cloaking device' is not a way to remain invisible whilst camping. You cannot shoot or knife anyone while cloaked and you will still cast a shadow so you will not be completely invisible, however this should make getting from point a to point b at least possible using the Recon Class, given the hi techness of it all.

I fully expect to be knifed in the back quite a few times, and the knifer will add my dogtags to his collection.
Pretty f'ing cool idea, if you ask me. I expect to have my own collection as well.

3) New graphics rendering engines are great --about every 2 years or so--

I don't know about you but my rig runs this (BF2) engine fine and I would NOT like to upgrade my machine every six months to be able to play the next game in line.

Some of the emerging ones look fantastic -cough- Crysis -cough- but I don't expect that upcoming Single player game to be much more than a technology demonstrator with maybe a deathmatch or something.

/soapbox
T0tal-Annihilation
Member
+6|6959|Marietta, GA (near Atlanta)
BF2 is aweomse, EA/DICE indroducing a heavily modded edition and labeling it another game is pure BS.
They just want more oney and they don't really care about all of us who want BF2 to live on a few more years before totally being stomped from EA/DICE.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6896|Little Bentcock
+ Usable Toilets? What does that mean?
scorps
Member
+2|6895
i dont think its gonna be that good it kindda looks crappy  in the trailer
xX[Elangbam]Xx
Member
+107|6971
I'm confused with the new player screen where you can "customize your player". I saw like 4 kits. Is sniper in it, its all so fast
devilhammer
Member
+16|6868|San Marcos, Texas
Working toilets? are they serious?
thats hilarious!!!!
Cohammer
Member
+61|6811
WTF is with the toilets, what are u gonna do! "WE ARE OVERRUN WITH SHIT, GET TO THE WASHROOMS!!!!!"
BornToKill67
It's a good day to die
+18|6934|Canada Eh?
I think the toilets are just a joke...if there will be then itll probably be porta potties and you'll be able to use 'em as bunkers or cover.
SmilingBuddha
You laughin' at me, bitch?
+44|6922|Hong Kong
i dun get why ppl complain about bf2142. i hate ppl who r never pleased with what they hav and take everything for granted. DEAL WITH IT
BornToKill67
It's a good day to die
+18|6934|Canada Eh?
I like BF2142...im buying it for sure its just that I dont get why they put toilets...
Tor77
Ron Jeremy Apprentice
+84|6926|Norway
New trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php? … p;id=11587

...and an article by Colin Clarke - the Community Manager of DICE: http://pc.ign.com/articles/714/714867p1.html

...plus an interview with Marcus Nilsson - senior producer of 2142: http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager … Id=3151821
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6823|UK

someone ffs explain to me the plot behind it........Then again battlefield has no plot, just the americans fightin the chinese and middle east guys for no reason WHAT SO EVER.........ahhhhh how i love that country.....Anyhoooooooo all i can deduce is, only 25% of earth is inhabitable.......sooo, what, we fightin for that last truck load of woolen sweatrs or something?  N something about blowin up some big flying thing called the TITAN (bastards i've named my squad tht since the start of this game, n stole it of an irish guy) POINTLESS, who want's to play star ship troopers?

done and done tah v much
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6993|California

Bell wrote:

someone ffs explain to me the plot behind it........Then again battlefield has no plot, just the americans fightin the chinese and middle east guys for no reason WHAT SO EVER.........ahhhhh how i love that country.....Anyhoooooooo all i can deduce is, only 25% of earth is inhabitable.......sooo, what, we fightin for that last truck load of woolen sweatrs or something?  N something about blowin up some big flying thing called the TITAN (bastards i've named my squad tht since the start of this game, n stole it of an irish guy) POINTLESS, who want's to play star ship troopers?

done and done tah v much
PAC (pan asian coalition) vs. EU (europe, US) for land that isnt lost to the new iceage
xWSxCriminalx
Member
+40|6810

Stryyker wrote:

Then again battlefield has no plot, just the americans fightin the chinese and middle east guys for no reason WHAT SO EVER
Haha turns out battlefield is just like real life

Last edited by xWSxCriminalx (2006-07-03 15:57:05)

oxToonSxo
Member
+2|6981|Victoria, Australia
This what the toilets are for 



https://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060705.jpg

Last edited by oxToonSxo (2006-07-05 02:54:46)

DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6820|Doncaster, UK
Do we have an official release date for 2142 yet. The releases above say "Fall 2006" but play.com in UK are taking pre-orders for it for a release date of 30th November 2006.

http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/1015466 … oduct.html

Anyone got any more solid info yet?
Watermeleon
Member
+34|6807|I am located at my location
If EA says BF2142 is coming out Fall 2006, then it will probably be released sometime in 2008-2009.

I can't wait until it is released. The only thing I hoped it would have that it didn't was Eva Units. How could it not have Evas?

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