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DesertFox-
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A friend mentioned to me a murder-suicide in Pennsylvania over a snow shoveling dispute. There's security cam video/audio of it that is fairly decent quality. The people in the video seem disagreeable, and the clarity of the sound makes it very upsetting to watch. However, equally as distressing to me is the comments of people taking the "they fucked around and found out" or "they deserved it" attitudes. It should be so much of a higher bar to even think about using a gun to resolve a dispute, but a sizable amount think it's appropriate over a snow dispute? Even if there's been issues in the past, it's still an unacceptable escalation.

I don't understand how people act as if a fully armed society is "polite". There would still be plenty of angry people trying to quickly get their gratification. I don't want to find different routes to work to go around the everyday shootouts. I don't want to have to be armed to defend/be on equal ground with some unhinged manchild. The lack of respect for human life and having some basic fucking decency is appalling.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Most gun rights people are cowards and manchildren. I have never been in any situation where I felt I needed a gun to protect myself. The people who talk about guns creating polite societies are always right wingers with warped ideas of respect and manhood. Respect of course in their mind is a one way road where everyone should be deferential to them.
unnamednewbie13
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+1,888|5690|USA

Not sure if this is the right thread for this stuff, but:

Gun with "old ammunition" blows up on shooter, aftermath.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1449kJKxlMQ

The video is what it is, I guess, but diverting from that content into the comments, I run across a bit of an awkward reply chain:


Don Stanford
7 hours ago
I am a retired Police officer with nearly 30 years experience. I've pretty much seen it all. But this is incredible. Thank god your father was there. They train us that when it really gets bad you fight for your life and never give up. Well this is where I see you. This is one of the most intense and incredible instances of survival I've ever seen or heard of. So glad you are on the mend. Look forward to your future videos. Get well friend.

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Pathetic.
Pathetic.
4 hours ago
Thanks for your service, Don.

4


Daniyil S
Daniyil S
3 hours ago
Thanks for the service Don

2


Gary Finnstrom
Gary Finnstrom
1 hour ago
as a former first responder I want to thank you for your service on the streets the training does kick in found that out when shot in the upper left leg next to the artery 357 158gn gold dot hollow point God was with me that night and made it easier to survive ....
The downside was it ruin my St Patrick's Day celebration however the pain meds made up for it
my son called my mother told her I was shot her comment was ok I will add it to the list ---she raised twins

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Jonathan McFarland
Jonathan McFarland
44 minutes ago
Thank you for your service.
So uncomfortable. I think people need to stop saying "thank you for your service." It comes off knee-jerk and insincere. The magic words, so to speak. What's wrong with "wow, I'm glad you're OK." I suppose some cops/vets might enjoy it, but I've heard a lot of comments from ones who just wish people would knock it off.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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A - Thats a really fucking stupid gun design, holding back .50 BMG with a screw on cap "but ah done did up thuh cap right" most gun barrels are torqued into a properly design receiver/bolt system, not screwed in finger tight - that would be certain death.

B - You've got to be dumb firing off ancient ammunition you know nothing about.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2021-05-06 22:08:05)

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unnamednewbie13
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Yeah that part makes you think. He's admitting that there's no way to really know what the ammo has been through as it changed hands, yet there he is firing it off. I would have at least done it remotely with a shield between the rifle and myself. I don't think that's hindsight, it's common sense.

I don't know if I'd go so far as to call the video flippant, but the way he's so casual about it is almost angering. He's lucky to be in the land of the living.
Dilbert_X
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There's something weird in this macho hero worship

"50 cal blows up on anyone else - dies.
50 cal blows up on Scott - sticks thumb in it and makes a video.
Glad you survived bud!!!!"

""i almost died and all i got from it was this shirt"

top fucking notch. hilarious and unironically a pretty good shirt."

Now a bunch of gimboids will go out and do the same thing and get blown up.
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Dilbert_X
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he RN-50 represents the first time a production firearm has ever been inspired by social media. Designed in conjunction with YouTube celebrity Royal Nonesuch. The RN-50 is a unique approach to the .50BMG rifle. Rugged, lightweight, accurate, easy takedown and low price make this rifle a winner! The simple screw-on breech cap is not only strong, it applies absolutely symmetrical support to the cartridge case, allowing for incredible accuracy. Using top quality materials as well as parts from our proven BFG-50 rifle, the RN-50 gives you high quality at an incredible price, along with lineage to a safe, proven firearm that's been in production for 17+ years. Whether you're looking for the least expensive way to get into shooting .50BMG or you want to outshoot your friends' expensive match rifle, the RN-50 is for you!
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Royal-Nonesuch-357-660x410.jpg
LOL OK

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2021-05-06 22:26:45)

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unnamednewbie13
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+1,888|5690|USA

I'm pretty sure there's cheaper starter rifles than the RN-50.

What's your engineering take on the screw-on cap?
unnamednewbie13
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+1,888|5690|USA

Mark Serbu Issues Statement On Serbu .50 Accident
https://fullmagnews.com/2021/05/05/mark … -accident/




The investigation into what lead the gun to do this will be released when Mark Serbu gets the firearm from Scott. Serbu would also go on to clarify that he personally tests the guns he sells and that they are safe. Serbu, Kentucky Ballistics, as well as a host of experts have all said that the incident was not caused by a malfunction with the gun but with the ammunition that was used.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

What's your engineering take on the screw-on cap?
Utterly fucking retarded.

Not acceptable for a rifle cartridge.
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unnamednewbie13
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+1,888|5690|USA

There's been pros and cons much discussed by various gun people in recent days. I rather side with the camp that thinks a rifle needs to be designed in a way that a catastrophic failure like that won't send the breech into the shooter's face. There's things like fatigue, corrosion, idiot loads, barrel blockage, to take into consideration. I'd like to see what stress testing they put the rifle through.

From another thread:
Serbu himself said that normal chamber pressures are 55 ksi, and for the threads to have the shear failure they did it would have to be 80 ksi+
I'm not a grizzled expert in rifle physics (computer electronics are the highest I've formally gone in terms of engineering), but that doesn't seem like a very high tolerance for a rifle when combined with various multiple things that could contribute to Stuff Going Badly. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Dilbert_X
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A .50 BMG firearm would normally be expected to be proof tested with a load of 65 ksi, then be undamaged and safe for the rest of its life.
Firearms especially rifles do have small safety margins, everything needs to be dead on, so 80 vs 55 ksi does sound rightish, bigger margins are always better.

However, relying on a threaded connection, done up thumb tight by the user, with a v-shaped profile is fucking retarded.
Best case thats going to wear out and be unsafe very quickly. Worst case its going to blow up on the first shot.

Having no safe failure mode or significant secondary protection - tiny little lugs just to check the cap is fitted - is also retarded.
Anything goes wrong - cap gets blown through your face.

I don't know much about rifles but I'd guess the latest are designed for the barrel to blow forward or the bolt to be blown back slightly, then caught as the gases safely vent along a predicted path.

Also don't use unknown ammunition ever, military ammunition is often not made to industry standards, powder rattling around in the case for decades can completely change the burn rate. That could have been handloaded to some unknown pressure by an idiot or made deliberately to suit an aircraft cannon.

From google SLAP rounds may require a completely different chamber and throat. Did numbnuts in the video think to check before he put it in his bargain basement designed by a teenage youtube expert firearm?
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Dilbert_X
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Cartridge, caliber .50, saboted light armor penetrator (SLAP), M903
This cartridge has a 355 – 360 gr (23.00 – 23.33 g) heavy metal (tungsten) penetrator that is sabot-launched at a muzzle velocity of 4,000 ft/s (1,219 m/s). The 0.50 in (12.7 mm) diameter sabot is designed to separate after leaving the muzzle, releasing the 0.30 (7.62 mm) penetrator. It is injection molded of special high strength plastic and is reinforced with an aluminum insert in the base section. The cartridge is identified by an amber sabot (Ultem 1000). For use only in the M2 series of machine guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG
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unnamednewbie13
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Well, there it is.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Really that rifle looks like the kind of thing you might fire once or twice if your life depended on doing so, and then ideally set off with a piece of string from a good distance.
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