and i do love how the media tried their hardest to make it a race issue.Macbeth wrote:
I really do love how Zimmerman supporters are bending over backwards to make him look like a victim and Trayvon a horrible person. Just picking up some junk food from the local 7/11 is criminalized as a drug manufacturing. I wonder if he was carrying some baking soda would they accuse him of operating a cocaine smuggling ring.
zimmerman approached trayvon though. trayvon wasn't violent. he didn't approach zimmerman. he didn't antagonise the situation. so he came up rough and had a history of fighting and being a hard-ass poser in high-school. so are many other teenagers at that age, from that sort of background. doesn't mean they are killers. just a wannabe gang-banger. trayvon being in a few fights in school and talking macho shit is kind of irrelevant when the situation arose because zimmerman approached him with a gun.Cybargs wrote:
ok maybe im wrong about lean making people violent. I admit it. But trayvon does have a violent history before hand.
Their entire argument falls apart if you remove the drug use. Why else would they need to mention it in the first place?Uzique The Lesser wrote:
i'm fine judging a self-defense ruling on the facts of the case. with witnesses and evidence. i am not fine suggesting someone 'deserved it' to be shot dead because they had smoked weed, or were buying ingredients to make a cough-syrup drink. a lot of youths in that sub-culture dabble in casual drug-use, i bet: it's part of the whole rap culture. socialisation. maybe not acceptable to white-mainstream america, but certainly not proof of a killer or lethal criminal. 'sizzurp' is a drink composed mainly of codeine (or co-codamol? not sure). they are painkillers. analgesics. they make you drowsy and relaxed. not an angry brute foaming at the mouth to kill. talking about these things is irrelevant. it is moral judgement in a court of law where evidence is supposed to be the method. maybe drinking cough-syrup and abusing painkillers is illegal. doesn't deserve the death penalty, though. it is irrelevant in a violent altercation.
it is an important detail if either person is intoxicated, yes. and should be considered with medical witnesses.UnkleRukus wrote:
In a court of law you need to bring every little detail into account. Especially on a case where someone is up for murder. Drug use is an extremely important detail.
Drug use does not give you the right to shoot someone. The facts remain the same with or without drug use, unless you can prove that Martin assaulted first BECAUSE OF the drugs. It is perfectly possible that he was tripping balls (which I doubt, but let's assume it for this example). So he's tripping balls, acting weird, whatever. If he felt threatened, and reacted to Zimmerman, there is no way you can prove he did so BECAUSE of the drugs, and the drugs alone. He could have been fucked up and still had a legit reason to defend himself.UnkleRukus wrote:
In a court of law you need to bring every little detail into account. Especially on a case where someone is up for murder. Drug use is an extremely important detail.
What's funny roc is how you spout off the standard conservative rebuttal and then instantly blow your cover by posting trash at the very end. Sorry dude, but either you are an incredibly shallow person, or what I suspect is that you're trying way too hard to be white. If I didnt know you were black I'd think your posts were made from a 12 year old. Half the posts you make in DST are about black people doing stupid black people things. I could easily go post thousands of pictures of stupid fucking hicks with AR's talking about how they're forming a citizens militia and make fun of them for it.... but I don't. Because I'm comfortable with my racial identity. It really gets old, and it's insulting to our intelligence.Roc18 wrote:
I still don't know why the media blew up this one case of a guy killing a kid to the point where it's being talked about worldwide. Trayvon cases happen every year. It's like the Kony thing except instead of an african warlord we're all focusing on a guy that killed a 17 year old kid.
It's producing some lol worth shit at least
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I just read every word in this paragraph and I have no idea what you're talking about.Spearhead wrote:
What's funny roc is how you spout off the standard conservative rebuttal and then instantly blow your cover by posting trash at the very end. Sorry dude, but either you are an incredibly shallow person, or what I suspect is that you're trying way too hard to be white. If I didnt know you were black I'd think your posts were made from a 12 year old. Half the posts you make in DST are about black people doing stupid black people things. I could easily go post thousands of pictures of stupid fucking hicks with AR's talking about how they're forming a citizens militia and make fun of them for it.... but I don't. Because I'm comfortable with my racial identity. It really gets old, and it's insulting to our intelligence.Roc18 wrote:
I still don't know why the media blew up this one case of a guy killing a kid to the point where it's being talked about worldwide. Trayvon cases happen every year. It's like the Kony thing except instead of an african warlord we're all focusing on a guy that killed a 17 year old kid.
It's producing some lol worth shit at least
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What an asshole.BREAKING CNN NEWS wrote:
George Zimmerman helped family get out of overturned car last week in Sanford, Florida, local sheriff's office says.
you are so easily manipulated by the media. lmao. yes i'm sure that's what happened. a once in a lifetime event like that... who woulda thunk it, right after his once-in-a-lifetime murder trial.Extra Medium wrote:
What an asshole.BREAKING CNN NEWS wrote:
George Zimmerman helped family get out of overturned car last week in Sanford, Florida, local sheriff's office says.
please kill me now before I have to read anything else.There are a lot of very nervous people out there. What happens if the people in the SUV were black? (Actually, calm down, it wouldn't matter one bit to those who hate the Zimmerman they have created in their minds. They would create a conspiracy that he helped cause the accident as a publicity stunt.)
top kekExtra Medium wrote:
No, no, no, it was a PR STUNT! Someone voluntarily rolled their vehicle with Zimmerman in tail to make him look good to the stupid American media watchers! Clever media!
hahahaha
who witnessed it? this is too convenient to be true. as if zimmerman was really out walking the streets anyway, whilst all of twitter talks openly about killing the guy. he's on witness protection in a house somewhere til this whole thing blows over.Extra Medium wrote:
No, no, no, it was a PR STUNT! Someone voluntarily rolled their vehicle with Zimmerman in tail to make him look good to the stupid American media watchers! Clever media!
hahahaha
You have to be the most cynical person on the face of the planet.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
who witnessed it? this is too convenient to be true. as if zimmerman was really out walking the streets anyway, whilst all of twitter talks openly about killing the guy. he's on witness protection in a house somewhere til this whole thing blows over.Extra Medium wrote:
No, no, no, it was a PR STUNT! Someone voluntarily rolled their vehicle with Zimmerman in tail to make him look good to the stupid American media watchers! Clever media!
hahahaha
cynical to question what the media presents to people? LOL. fucking funny, man.Extra Medium wrote:
You have to be the most cynical person on the face of the planet.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
who witnessed it? this is too convenient to be true. as if zimmerman was really out walking the streets anyway, whilst all of twitter talks openly about killing the guy. he's on witness protection in a house somewhere til this whole thing blows over.Extra Medium wrote:
No, no, no, it was a PR STUNT! Someone voluntarily rolled their vehicle with Zimmerman in tail to make him look good to the stupid American media watchers! Clever media!
hahahaha
LoL, you're a fucking idiot Uzi.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
cynical to question what the media presents to people? LOL. fucking funny, man.Extra Medium wrote:
You have to be the most cynical person on the face of the planet.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
who witnessed it? this is too convenient to be true. as if zimmerman was really out walking the streets anyway, whilst all of twitter talks openly about killing the guy. he's on witness protection in a house somewhere til this whole thing blows over.
EM judging from your posts across all boards, i picture you to be an amalgamation of the two dudes in this video. self-satisfied and dumb as fuck.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d2_1374117185
I like how nervous they got after they started to be surrounded by black people. "This didn't work out as I expected it".Uzique The Lesser wrote:
cynical to question what the media presents to people? LOL. fucking funny, man.Extra Medium wrote:
You have to be the most cynical person on the face of the planet.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
who witnessed it? this is too convenient to be true. as if zimmerman was really out walking the streets anyway, whilst all of twitter talks openly about killing the guy. he's on witness protection in a house somewhere til this whole thing blows over.
EM judging from your posts across all boards, i picture you to be an amalgamation of the two dudes in this video. self-satisfied and dumb as fuck.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d2_1374117185
Wow that really offsets a shooting...Extra Medium wrote:
What an asshole.BREAKING CNN NEWS wrote:
George Zimmerman helped family get out of overturned car last week in Sanford, Florida, local sheriff's office says.
