There was some old afghan dude on the FOB who used to sell flat bread. Nice guy who had his sons work with him. Made alot of money selling us bread. I'd buy a few pieces myself before we went on a mission to eat in the truck.Beduin wrote:
damn mooslims
I know, war is hell and anything goes. But this goes beyond just this one incident, it will inflame tensions between Kabul and Washington. Not necessarily a good time for something like this to be happen. Do the dumbfucks taping this and posting it online do it because they want to show off or what?1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
There was some old afghan dude on the FOB who used to sell flat bread. Nice guy who had his sons work with him. Made alot of money selling us bread. I'd buy a few pieces myself before we went on a mission to eat in the truck.Beduin wrote:
damn mooslims
They kidnapped him a few weeks ago. I think it was B Co who found the body. They fuckin mutilated that guy.
Oh well. I guess the Taliban aren't such bad dudes once you get to know them.
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ThisFEOS wrote:
Bottomline: Doing it was stupid. Getting it on video was stupider. Posting it was abysmally stupid.
The first is somewhat understandable (heat of the moment, etc), but still not excusable. The other two: no. Not at all.
Does that really have anything to do with this specific instance or more with coverage of war in the mass media in any modern society?Jay wrote:
English majors the world over revel in the story of the fallen Hector being dragged around the city of Troy by his victor, Achilles. They read stories and plays where the vanquished was dismembered. Yet a little salty water sprayed on the dead body is an atrocity. It's amazing how much the human race has changed over the centuries.
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It's a product of the 24 hour news cycle. It has shock value. It gives people a chance to take a moral stance and wag their finger. People love that. They especially love it in this case because the right tends to put soldiers on a pedestal as some heroic moral crusader worthy of worship. They're hired killers and people are upset by piss. How fucking silly.Spearhead wrote:
Does that really have anything to do with this specific instance or more with coverage of war in the mass media in any modern society?Jay wrote:
English majors the world over revel in the story of the fallen Hector being dragged around the city of Troy by his victor, Achilles. They read stories and plays where the vanquished was dismembered. Yet a little salty water sprayed on the dead body is an atrocity. It's amazing how much the human race has changed over the centuries.
I think of it more as a political event, it is harder to retain the moral high ground when this shit comes to light. Sure we all know stuff like this happens all the time without us hearing about it, but seeing it all over the internet and on cable TV has an impact. It then becomes a matter of propaganda.
And it's not "good" propaganda that serves a purpose for our side, it's self-made, self-defeating propaganda which is then handed over to our enemy via the internet.
No kidding... A lot of the whiners really have no sincere interest in this -- they just enjoy bitching at us for one reason or another.Jay wrote:
English majors the world over revel in the story of the fallen Hector being dragged around the city of Troy by his victor, Achilles. They read stories and plays where the vanquished was dismembered. Yet a little salty water sprayed on the dead body is an atrocity. It's amazing how much the human race has changed over the centuries.
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It's war. I'm not sure if "moral high ground" even plays into it.Spearhead wrote:
Does that really have anything to do with this specific instance or more with coverage of war in the mass media in any modern society?Jay wrote:
English majors the world over revel in the story of the fallen Hector being dragged around the city of Troy by his victor, Achilles. They read stories and plays where the vanquished was dismembered. Yet a little salty water sprayed on the dead body is an atrocity. It's amazing how much the human race has changed over the centuries.
I think of it more as a political event, it is harder to retain the moral high ground when this shit comes to light. Sure we all know stuff like this happens all the time without us hearing about it, but seeing it all over the internet and on cable TV has an impact. It then becomes a matter of propaganda.
And it's not "good" propaganda that serves a purpose for our side, it's self-made, self-defeating propaganda which is then handed over to our enemy via the internet.
Where is the outrage!?"Such attacks can be severe and fatal," she said. "In the case of an adult victim, the attacking males take turns beating and jumping on the victim. Attackers use their canines to bite and tear at the victim, so that any body parts that stick out, such as testes and ears, are often ripped off during an attack."
She added, "In the case of infanticides, the attackers beat the female, but not as severely as they beat adult males. The goal appears to be to separate the infant from its mother."
Once an infant is removed from its mother, the attacker "generally kills the infant fairly quickly either with a bite to the head or by biting the stomach and disemboweling it." The infant is then sometimes cannibalized, with the meat shared as the chimpanzees would do after killing red colobus monkey prey during hunts.
But Al Qaeda collapsing two large occupied buildings in a crowded city is fine and dandy. Cool story, Taleebaaan.Beduin wrote:
lol.. that coming from the taliban? damn..The Taliban condemned the video, but said it would not affect the political process.
They didn't have a Geneva convention or US uniform code etc back then, so your argument is irrelevant.Jay wrote:
English majors the world over revel in the story of the fallen Hector being dragged around the city of Troy by his victor, Achilles. They read stories and plays where the vanquished was dismembered. Yet a little salty water sprayed on the dead body is an atrocity. It's amazing how much the human race has changed over the centuries.
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Thats the case whenever any enemy combatant is captured in any war, which is why there are conventions on the subject.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
Or when you get called out on QRF with reports of some dudes digging on the side of the road, and when you get there and capture them, you find out they're the guys who planted the IED that killed your friends the previous week.
