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Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

And 'outsourced' doesn't simply mean sending the job to India. It could be replacing the IT department at your office and bringing in part time consultants in your stead. It could be ditching you and your ever rising pay and benefits for a fresh out of college kid that will work for half. These things happen every day in the IT industry. IT guys are considered a luxury and non-essential and are the first to get cut when profits sag.

And it's not like Cam could ever be a part time consultant be- oh, wait. He could.

And it's not like Cam would ever be a fresh out of college kid that will work for half be- oh, wait. He could.

It's not a good career path.

It's a great career path, actually. You land a job out of college and you get the instant work experience. You go into a consulting firm and you don't have to worry about finding the next job, the company will do that for you. Or you can move out as a consultant on your own and enjoy the benefits in salary.

Last edited by AussieReaper (2011-08-01 04:21:09)

Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

And 'outsourced' doesn't simply mean sending the job to India. It could be replacing the IT department at your office and bringing in part time consultants in your stead. It could be ditching you and your ever rising pay and benefits for a fresh out of college kid that will work for half. These things happen every day in the IT industry. IT guys are considered a luxury and non-essential and are the first to get cut when profits sag.

And it's not like Cam could ever be a part time consultant be- oh, wait. He could.

And it's not like Cam would ever be a fresh out of college kid that will work for half be- oh, wait. He could.

It's not a good career path.

Maybe if you take this "i want to be like a postal worker and sit at one job all my life mentality and collect a pension" mentality, then I agree it is not. I think your understanding of the field is a bit dated imo.

Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

It's not a good career path.

It's a great career path, actually. You land a job out of college and you get the instant work experience. You go into a consulting and you don't have to worry about finding the next job, the company will do that for you. Or you can move out as a consultant on your own and enjoy the benefits in salary.

The top pay for IT consultants in NYC is about $50k/yr. That's barely a liveable wage here.

Not sure what you consider an IT job really, but we have had this conversation already You mean entry level?

jsnipy wrote:

Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

It's a great career path, actually. You land a job out of college and you get the instant work experience. You go into a consulting and you don't have to worry about finding the next job, the company will do that for you. Or you can move out as a consultant on your own and enjoy the benefits in salary.

The top pay for IT consultants in NYC is about $50k/yr. That's barely a liveable wage here.

Not sure what you consider an IT job really, but we have had this conversation already You mean entry level?

I think so. Otherwise that is laughable.

Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

It's not a good career path.

It's a great career path, actually. You land a job out of college and you get the instant work experience. You go into a consulting and you don't have to worry about finding the next job, the company will do that for you. Or you can move out as a consultant on your own and enjoy the benefits in salary.

The top pay for IT consultants in NYC is about $50k/yr. That's barely a liveable wage here.

Where did you get that data from?

I work as an IT consultant and i'm in easily into 6 figures if you translate to dollars.  If i was to move to the US (which isnt a problem) i would expect to get the equivulant if not more.  I know a KPMG IT consultant who moved to NY in 2007 and was offered a salary $90-100K and she wasn't even managerial level.

Maybe you're refering to tech guys but even so system integrator type nerds are no way near $50K.

Last edited by m3thod (2011-08-01 07:42:15)

That's why he ought to go with an MIS degree:

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos258.htm#earnings

Scroll down to the bottom:

http://mays.tamu.edu/info/what-is-mis/

Yeah 50K ain't much in NYC but who would wanna live there?

Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

It's not a good career path.

It's a great career path, actually. You land a job out of college and you get the instant work experience. You go into a consulting and you don't have to worry about finding the next job, the company will do that for you. Or you can move out as a consultant on your own and enjoy the benefits in salary.

The top pay for IT consultants in NYC is about $50k/yr. That's barely a liveable wage here.

Not only is this patently false, but even if that was the state of the market in NYC, all that one would have to do is relocate to a place with half the cost of living and get paid twice that amount.

As for the thread; if you're good at what you do, and your skills are in demand, then you'll be employed. If you aren't good at what you do, or your skills aren't in demand, then you probably won't be employed. Same as any other industry.

For the hardware side, yes, pay isn't that great.  But get into anything financials related, and it's still good.  $200-$250/hr for Oracle Financials PM consultants paid to the consulting firm with 8-9 figure Project budgets.  Half that to the employee if they get hired permanently.  But then again, this is not what Camm is going for.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6151173/CV.doc

cv

thoughts?

"Cop-operative group"? Is that a typo?

Under your first work experience listing, "ensure we receive their continued custome." The fuck is 'custome'? I'd also use "tasked" instead of "entasked."

ps: How the hell did you get a D in English?

And yeah, proof read dude...

Errors in the first line lol
It doesn't look appealing to the eyes at all, don't underline the headings, bold them and use a larger font size
Put your contact details (address, phone number, email) in the footer, put your name in the header then the next line underneath put "curriculum vitae", they know what it is and you don't need a bold underlined size 20 title saying that
Don't include salary in work experience, try to use different words rather than "my role", use my main duties were to...
Don't put why your contract was ended
Split the education and references into two different sections, don't put them side by side, it's confusing
In the education section put the school/college name as a smaller heading then put the qualifications gained underneath, then o onto the next school/college, put them chronologically too

(will look at it some more now)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6151173/CV.doc

k, now?