not rehabilitation? the judicial system should be about fair punishment. what isn't fair about the perpetrator meeting the same fate as his victim?Jaekus wrote:
Yeah. The judicial system should be about punishment, not revenge. Ideally it's meant to be above that.
Rehabilitation for sure.13urnzz wrote:
not rehabilitation? the judicial system should be about fair punishment. what isn't fair about the perpetrator meeting the same fate as his victim?Jaekus wrote:
Yeah. The judicial system should be about punishment, not revenge. Ideally it's meant to be above that.
i'd volunteer to rape a rapist, all in the name of justice, mind you.
And to guarantee that is nigh impossible IMO. The likelihood is very low to be sure, but not out of the question.m3thod wrote:
i am all for the perpetrator getting his just deserts but unless you can guarantee you'll always get the right perpetrator 100% of the time then i'll hold hands with you.
until that happens and there are no more Timothy Evans, we wont see eye to eye.
i asked your opinion - a simple question. not sure if you answered it or not lollowing wrote:
Well fuck that is easy. If you want to consider what the victims want or what the victims family wants in dealing out justice, I am all for it. By this I assume you will support the victim of rape who wants her attackers balls cut off and shoved in his mouth? How about the father that wants the guy that molests ( I mean the sexual kind, not the annoying kind) his son? If he wants the molester to die, does he get his wish? Or are you just driving down a one way street with your question?KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
what if the victoms/living relatives don't want the guy executed? What if the victim/relatives don't want him to go to jail for life?lowing wrote:
I mean it does sound great, unless you are the guy that had his throat slit, or the woman that was raped and murdered, then you get the shit end of the stick, but if you are the murderer hell, you got it made.
THats why I am more for justice for the victims than rehab for the murderer, if his victims do not get a second chance, neither should he, crazy as it sounds.
if there is solid proof (like in this case) i could pull the trigger. if there is reasonable doubt, i might concede your point in that there are no "do-overs" in capital punishment.m3thod wrote:
i am all for the perpetrator getting his just deserts but unless you can guarantee you'll always get the right perpetrator 100% of the time then i'll hold hands with you.
until that happens and there are no more Timothy Evans, we wont see eye to eye.
I did answer it. Do you support the victims dealing out justice, really? Cuz I sure do.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
i asked your opinion - a simple question. not sure if you answered it or not lollowing wrote:
Well fuck that is easy. If you want to consider what the victims want or what the victims family wants in dealing out justice, I am all for it. By this I assume you will support the victim of rape who wants her attackers balls cut off and shoved in his mouth? How about the father that wants the guy that molests ( I mean the sexual kind, not the annoying kind) his son? If he wants the molester to die, does he get his wish? Or are you just driving down a one way street with your question?KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
what if the victoms/living relatives don't want the guy executed? What if the victim/relatives don't want him to go to jail for life?
Well I take it you are all good if the victims wants to spare their attackers life, are you equally as good if the victims wants the fucker to fry?KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
not sure, it's something i go back and forth on.
Ok well then lets back up. You think the victim should be able to spare their attackers life. Is this correct?KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
you're wrong
what exactly am I missing here?KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
nope
yup I do understand the difference, it was also well within reason to assume it was an argument you wanted to make.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
i guess you're missing that's not me saying it's what i endorse, it's me asking a question. do you understand the difference?
Too bad, because I really liked my answer to your argument. I mean, if you were trying to make an argument that is. Guess I will save it for when some one tries to argue that a victim should have a say in sparing the life of their attacker.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
its an opinion...there is no satisfactory or unsatisfactory answer.
well in this thread, apparently the living get to speak for the dead.13urnzz wrote:
Who speaks for the dead?
yeah I was corrected on that part. He just wanted to mention it, but not really discuss it.Jaekus wrote:
He wasn't making an argument, lol.
Reading fail.
A couple are yes, for a short while... "in respect"... since apparently cod and wow was "used in Oslo massacre"SEREMAKER wrote:
I just read an article and I just want to know from our fellow Norway brothers.
Are there retailers that are pulling such games as COD and W.O.W. ?